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Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
Personally, sexual attraction for me isn’t limited or detailed by age, genitalia, clothing or ethnicity… it’s actually based more on personality and character~ I’ve seen males and females and those who identify as neither or both and found myself attracted to them but, that doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m sexually attracted to them. Sexual attraction for me is more than that outward appearance or genderI’ve seen males and females and those who identify as neither or both and found myself attracted to them but, that doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m sexually attracted to them. Sexual attraction for me is more than that outward appearance or gender. It’s a bit of an assumption asserting that testosterone levels is what determines what gender one is sexually attracted to~ Are you saying that there is no personal discrimination between who you find attractive and who you don’t~? …that since you enough have adequate testosterone you choose males~? If that were true, it would follow that you are attracted to all males because you have adequate testosterone. I suspect that it is more than testosterone that makes you attracted to males and not all males but, more some than others. Is this true~? -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
I think I’m starting to see an ongoing theme in this thread and it’s something like: self identity vs biological potential. (This is not completely precise but, the words I have for it at the moment). It seems that when self identifying as gay (in respect to sexuality), is important to a person, their responses support the importance of that for them and they lean towards BTW theory~ When sexually identity is not the main importance of how an individual defines self, (gender identity is different than sexual preference and sexual orientation), the responses are less likely to support “born this way” theory~ So, maybe it might be helpful to reflect on what’s important to one’s self and evaluate what the various terms one’s self is using to communicate ideas in the topic. Sexual identity is different than sexual orientation… and those are different from gender identity and gender orientation… and those are different than biological sexuality and biological gender, (etc.,)… and those are different in the social context than they are in the political and biological context~ It might help to clarify what these things are in our own understandings and Improve upon the accuracy of that understanding before using the words in concept casually in an inaccurate way that might potentiate misunderstanding. It seems that sometimes people are saying similar or the same thing but, there is a condition of semantics that becomes more important than the truth of the topics at hand. -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
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That’s a very good point… It might also clarify some things if you explained what your definition of gay lifestyle, being gay and homosexuality and sexuality are~ -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
Born this Way theory is problematic in that people’s understanding of what that means is not just an understanding of the genetics behind a concept like that but, perhaps more so the politicized context in which it’s often used. There have been numbers of generations where homosexuality was unacceptable… It would seem that during times when it is acceptable, (even marginally acceptable), you would be able to trace genetically where homosexuality came from in some family lineage… you would be able to determine whether it’s a maternal or paternal gene that’s being passed on and whether it’s dominant or recessive and what determines that being exhibited within an individual. The picture is clearer in cases of Klinefelters, XYY syndrome or possibly something like acromegaly… (Maybe even the way alcoholism can permanently alter genetics that shows up in progeny), etc., there are instances where genes are more apt to be expressed when under unusual environmental conditions… sickle cell anemia would be an example of that. It is actually a natural mutation that occurred in response to malaria~ The person that has it is affected by other things besides malaria. Being homosexual (whether in the literal sense or having traits viewed as homosexual by non homosexuals), hasn’t always been acceptable in societies~ I’m sure there’s people out there that use the born this way card in their self defense without ever really knowing they actually were born that way~ There is conflict when people use the concept and terms incorrectly, (Not necessarily meaning out of context but, rather incorrectly in the sense of in an inaccurate way). -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
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The whole genetic thing can be very complex… There are organisms out there that change sex either within their own lifetime or through generations depending on their environments ability to sustain them for through any particular form of reproduction. They may in their lifetime change from being male to female, (or visa versa), or becoming hermaphroditic or when there’s not enough food they pump out more males than females and when there’s an abundance of resources they pump out more females than males… It wouldn’t be too bizarre to consider that even amongst human beings, some part of homosexuality, heterosexuality, fluid sexuality, asexuality etc., might be based on similar circumstances~ There’s a danger to accuracy when we try to lump everybody in every situation into categories that have generic/homogenized criteria when the reality of it all is more complex~ -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
Trench buddies of WW2~ -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
It seems that is where some of the confusion is coming from in this thread, (and thus also outside of it): Life style being a different thing than orientation and in addition, innate potential of attraction acted on and nurtured over time… ie. If left alone without current cultural norms and preconceptions: would human beings have any particular preference on and individual to individual bases… and if so, would it remain constant or variable through life~? -
Cute Critters to Take Our Minds Off Everyday Stresses
+ Tygerscent replied to + quoththeraven's topic in The Lounge
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I can almost smell that puppies breath~ Bailey is so gentle and intuitive with handling the puppy~ -
Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
My impression and experience is similar… The majority of my clientele are “straight identifying” with families and kids. They are not immersed in the gay community and they don’t want to have a husband/wife or live their life with a man or another woman necessarily… They love and enjoy their kids and their families but, societal norms and sometimes laws and/or religion don’t allow that personal expression~ There’s not really always a venue that is acceptable/safe/legal/ for sexually fluid individuals to have buddy sex with a memeber of the same sex . Being an openly Sexually fluid people can sometimes be difficult because “straight” people wanna categorize you as “gay” and “gay” people wanna categorize you “gay”… both sides can find it threatening, intimidating and uncomfortable. It’s almost as if the less sexually fluid people want the fluid person to choose side because it’s important to them somehow, even though it might not be important to the individual they are insisting choose. It can be similar if you have a mixed heritage… I think there’s be a certain percentage of people who end up not fitting into any particular group because they’re neither white, black, asian or Indigenous enough but a combination of those groups. I have also seen where people have an ethnic look but they were born someplace else and culturally they are very different… If they go back to some country that is clearly part of their ethnic background, their own ethnic group has prejudice and discrimination against them because they’re culturally different. If I put this in the sexual terms… I could suggest example of somebody who may be effeminate or hyper masculine but their gender isn’t what others typically associate with those types of personal characteristics. So, they get labeled and miss classified because the people around them are not willing to view them for who they are as individuals with their own identity, worth and value. It seems like often if you make a choice to sleep with somebody of your own sex and then do that for a while there’s no going back because society generally isn’t easily excepting of that. I know people whose sexual choices have changed throughout their lifetime… Moving from same-sex relationships to other sex relationships. Any number of things can influence that: surgery, a sick or dying spouse, a dead spouse, work, religious affinity, political affinity, simple desire… Meeting somebody who becomes a really great friend and at some point in time maybe you just want to share your affection for the person in a physical way. There’s all kinds of examples. The level of acceptance by any particular community of people who can identify with multiple groups and be marginalized because, they are still seen as different from all of them… White but, Not white enough… Black but, not black enough… Cinnamon but, not Cinnamon enough… Indigenous but, not indigenous enough… Yellow but, not yellow enough… Gay but, not gay enough… Straight but, not straight enough… If they claim their own unique identity, it separates them from the very groups that they are actually part of but, not part of enough to be completely excepted… there’s always just enough to make a part of the group but that little something that makes you different and on the fringes. You end up belonging but, not belonging to any number of particular groups. Since I talk to a lot of people who are straight identifying and/or sexually fluid… (as well people who are straight and not sexually fluid…), many have still had sex with members of their own sex at some point in their life. Sometimes it is more prevalent in one culture than another and at different points in history but, I think still prevalent over all. It’s something kept private. It may be more accurate to simply say that people are born sexual… They’re born that way. I do understand that the labels were necessary at different points in time in order to protect and make safe the world for people who did not fit the norm for whatever reason. It’s not practical to go into a quart room to present or change a law when the argument becomes: “this group that is identical to all others wants to have the rights, freedoms and safety exactly like this other group of people they are identical to~“ The labels have different intention then~ Nature/nurture is probably closer to a reality then everybody being born a certain way. Most living things are born sexual in one way or another and within some species some individuals are affected by their circumstances and experiences in life and choices that affect how they are sexual~ -
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Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
I grew up in Wisconsin~ The village of Hales Corners~ It’s interesting that you connect me with the bay area… The first time I was ever there was in 1996 on my way to medical convention~ I actually got stuck in San Francisco but, was on my way to a different city… it’s a long story. (As many of mine are~😂🤣😂). I’ve been to San Francisco many times during the course of my porn and escorting career… Outside of the porn, I’ve actually done very little Escorting there because culturally and sexually I’m very different than the locals~ I go there to visit someone I dated and remain friends with~ If it were not for this man, I would never go to San Francisco except I do have a spot at the Columberium there… it’s for some of my mom’s ashes and some family history~ -
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/brain-scans-suggest-life-flashes-before-our-eyes-upon-death-180979647/ “Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every New Year find you a better man (or woman)”… (or rather individual or people collectively). B Franklin +
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Yes… lots of super old people in my family: The 100+ club. On the one hand it’s fascinating that they live this long and then I had the opportunity to get to know them but, I can’t say that the quality of life was there for them~ my great aunt had both of her parents move in with her and she took care of them in her house until the day they died. My great grandmother had a stroke and was complete total assist~ she was unable to open and close her eyes by herself and my great aunt had to do that for her as well as administer eyedrops so her eyes wouldn’t dry out. My great grandfather was bedridden~ this living situation went on for years and years, (well, nine)… and as a family we would go visit the three~ I have to say that my great aunt did an amazing job of caring for her parents: The house was immaculate and both of them were always well groomed, well fed, in good form. Holidays were especially important because you know… “this could be the last one”. I have the greatest respect for her taking on the responsibility for caring for both of her parents in her home~ She and her husband had divorced in 1960. So, she was otherwise by herself~ Tight immediate family bonds on my mom’s side~ (Old world traditional home style). I have met people along the way who will openly admit that they will do anything necessary and/or available to prevent themselves from dying~ I find it an impressive stance and personal choice~ It would not necessarily be my own choice to do the same but, I’m in no hurry or desire to leave~ when I feel my time is up and I have nothing left to contribute, I’ll do the long walk and give the space up to somebody behind me. My goal is to keep my health & finances balanced with my spirit, will and desire to live~ Since I talk about death and dying with people that I’m very close to… There are people familiar with my decisions and mindset regarding my death~ I have found that it’s easier to plan all of that and except it when it comes if the insights are communicated & shared with trusted, close relations~ Death seems to be a taboo topic in american culture… though some ethnic groups here seem to openly have dialog with each other, (on a family or community level), and integrate death into their concept of life and living. I love my great grandparents and great aunt… I choose not to take their path with regard to aging~
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But… more health related costs: out of pocket medical, dental, medical supplies, care givers, nursing home, hearing aides, glasses, people shopping for you… If you are in a flat or apartment, the rent may increase while your income may be diminishing~ A dentist alone may be more than a person pays for a weekend staycation~ Certainly more than dinner or a movie~ If you have money, your growth of it must meet or exceed inflation and interest rates, things also like real estate taxes and sales taxes~
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Do You Love to wear different men's swimwear ?
+ Tygerscent replied to Ethanroy011's topic in The Lounge
I did that once with a football players jock~ He was this hot short, stocky guy with popeye muscles and a big, round, bubble butt~ He had been training late and came into the shower area to rinse off before heading home~ (Leaving out lots of details): He walked up to me buck naked and actually handed me the bag that had all of his still-warm, sweaty football training gear in it. I could smell his crotch scent and the sweat on his clothes as he handed me the bag~ I couldn’t resist. -
Why shoot a selfie while looking at your phone screen?
+ Tygerscent replied to Daverwr's topic in The Lounge
Phones are really convenient for taking photos and in some ways the norm because of that convenience~ they’re problematic as well in the sense that they don’t really have a timer on there. It’s not like you can just set them down and then set up a timer so you can pose in front of the mirror after setting the camera up so that it’s easier properly. So most people find that they have to hold the phone and positioned it so the camera is capturing their image. To make sure that all of that is happening they look at the phone screen to make sure they’re framed in there properly. It’s super hard taking ass pics of yourself with a phone in a mirror or even without… Do you have to have a selfie stick and do some crazy contortionist moves especially if you don’t want that weird extended arm in the photo. What they really suck the most about these photos is the terrible resolution and incredible pixelation that occurs when you tried to enlarge them. -
[email protected] I guess… [email protected] would work too~ [email protected] Or… [email protected] lastly: [email protected] (the @ sign is a metaphorical butt hole~😳😂❤️) They are discrete enough and not taken. Identifiable with the site but, not overly obvious… if political and social comfort with gay things and escorting changes into something less comfortable/acceptable, there is still enough discretion in the name that is not blatantly obvious or threatening~
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"Gone but not forgotten", what fellow posters do you miss?
+ Tygerscent replied to + glutes's topic in The Lounge
Bossguy… super sweet man~ Strong, genuine, honest and dedicated. also, a friend of Daddy’s and troller to the site/financial and moral supporter of the site… (name unmentioned)~ Witty beyond belief, down to earth in a highly sophisticated way, incredibly gentle and loving in private~ Jackhammer: big soft loving paws, gentle nature, loving man~ His legacy of Friday Funnies lives in here~ also… (not on this forum but occasional browsers…): missing the five Clients I lost to covid in 2020, the four who died from it in 2021 and the three who have died so far this year~ Missing them~ -
Well… a few factors: Quality over quantity… Also, the longer you live the more money you need coming in~ Your financial situation can greatly impact your quality of life and length of it. Health care: Again a quality over quantity issue. Not just your health but, actual health care… Between my hospital and farm experiences, I’ve seen death~ I grew up with the “long walk” concept: When you are born the purpose of life is to be alive an experience living to your best potential respectfully. In your youth you are learning and growing… As a young adult you are experiencing things in an independent way and developing your place and responsibility in the world… As an older adult you are providing back into life in various ways and as an Elder, you teach back what you know… There comes a point in time due to age, ability, circumstances where what you have to offer back into life is completed and you now have the opportunity to gift back the space that you occupied and it’s provisions to life coming up behind you. It’s their turn to experience all that you have experienced in the course of your own lifetime. At that time you begin to shut yourself down and basically Releasing yourself from your place in life… You just start letting go and you let life occupy the people and things around you~ You lovingly give it back~ That is called the “long walk”~ You let living go and you allow yourself to pass out of life~ Traditionally there would be a big party for you so that you could celebrate with people that are around you who love and care about you… And it’s a very different concept than trying to hang yourself or doing something like that. There is also dying of a broken heart… I’ve seen that before.
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If your a top, being a PITA is a good thing~ Then, keep at it~
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Why did you pick the username you have currently?
+ Tygerscent replied to + 7829V's topic in The Lounge
My name is very long… My family is very traditional~ When born, I received names from my great aunt, (who is also my godmother), my mother, grandmother & my grandfather~ “Names” are a culturally important thing on my mother’s side. I lived w/ my parents & was their son but, my great aunt, being my godmother, actually took greater priority & was the greater influence throughout my life… So, she had the proper privilege of naming me first, giving me the name “Tyger”, (which is actually pronounced differently & is a combination of two similar names from two different cultures~). The name itself means “Guardian, Protector Warrior”~ (The cultural thing): When first born, certain members of your family assign names to you by watching you for a bit to see what your natural born character is like. They might also assign a name to you that was given to an ancestor. As you grow little older, you begin to develop & your personality is influenced by the experiences around you~ So, you get another name added onto your previous names~ This usually happens before puberty & is usually a single or series of nicknames that remain w/ you for life. The name(s) are generally derived from how your peers see you~ When you “come of age”, you do what is known as a “renewal” and find a name for yourself… That’s an important name because that is how you define yourself. During that “coming of age Renewal”, you fast for a number of days and then a friend or family member drops you off in the woods on your own~ You walk into woods to find your “special place” & the begin the process of “self-manifestation” & “renewal”, (you are taught how to do this from an early age). When you reach your spot, you’re secluded & you drop your clothes off by some tree or small cave or someplace convenient before wandering off to do the actually self manifestation exercise. You start by sitting down quietly in your chosen spot and moving back to your very first memory that you have from birth~ You begin to move memory-by-memory in a chronological fashion forward up to the present moments of you sitting there in the woods naked by yourself. That part of the ritual is all about being consumed by self. Then you do some breathing & let go of everything that is self by concentrating on everything around you instead: you hear the wind blowing, leaves rustling, animals in the woods breathing, worms underneath leaves, fish in the river, snow falling & melting… Pretty soon there is no self left & you are filled completely w/ the essence of everything that is around you. It can be a very powerful experience when you’ve separated from yourself & are completely filled with everything else… If “out of body” were a thing, this could be defined as that type of experience. This entire first part of the experience is subjective~ The next pet is not. You begin to let thoughts flow into your mind randomly as they come naturally and uncensored… you allow them to come in without any judgment of whether what you’re feeling/experiencing is good or bad, right or wrong, good or evil, positive or negative… (those are human judgement things and you leave that type of judgment out~). You simply experience the intercourse between self & everything that’s around you without the burden of judgement or emotion. Then you take all of that information & spend an unspecified amount of time contemplating how this newly manifested “self” & “non-self” being can use all of what has just happened to move into life in a constructive/appropriate manor~ So, During my rites of passage renewal, I was out in the wintertime woods for over a week~ The context of that renewal was: my grandfather passing away just prior to Thanksgiving & my daughter passing away on my birthday earlier the same year~ It was turning point in my life in many ways. The self part of my renewal was very “full” & consumed a lot of time while I was out there~ When I moved into the second part of the ritual, (non-self part), it was equally time consuming & I was very much connected to the experience by my senses of hearing, taste, touch & smell… At the peak of the experience, my sense of smell actually seem to be connected to all my other senses, (even my sight despite my eyes being closed~). It was very windy & wet at the time~ I felt very much in intercourse w/ that wind & water~ For that particular experience, scent had a powerful presence & was instrumental in my collective manifestation hence influencing also my rights-of-passage name. So, moving forward: I had a long career in academia… I was taking classes, teaching & doing oncology/Hep C research at several universities but, after a long enjoyable run, I decided to leave that completely to become a male Geisha escort companion intimate~ I felt that this new career path would allow me to utilize all of the skills & knowledge I had accumulated along the way in school & as well allow me to continue learning. Regarding Porn & Escorting: At first I was just using my name but, colt studios approached me to do a movie with them & advised that I not do that for safety reasons~ So, they gave me the name “Ty Hudson”~ For Escorting, I combined the name my great aunt gave me w/ my rights of passage experience of “Scent” to create Tygerscent~ These are two of three paintings I did to commemorate my rites-of-passage renewal & ever evolving name: -
My understanding is that IQ is intended to measure speed and ability for problem solving based on fluid and crystallized intelligence~ While there potentially exists some innate ability for both in an individual, the processes of each can be developed as a skill and that would imply learning wouldn’t it~? Crystalized Intelligence, (part of the IQ tests), “…involves knowledge that comes prior learning and past experiences. Situations that require crystallized intelligence include reading comprehension and vocabulary exams. Crystallized intelligence is based upon facts and rooted in experiences.” (https://www.verywellmind.com/fluid-intelligence-vs-crystallized-intelligence-2795004#toc-crystallized-intelligence) (random siting). Though IQ tests are used to sort out individuals for various appointments, (jobs/stations and positions in life, potential for success in some particular endeavor and even in instances income), part of that test is based on acquired knowledge that has been learned~ (Crystallized intelligence and developed skills of Fluid intelligence ). If IQ tests don’t address each type of learning style, (and the problem solving abilities that come along with those various learning styles), then they are biased to some particular type(s) of learning and learning style(s) it would seem~ Is there not a connection between learning and intelligence~? Isn’t one’s ability to learn based on the various forms of intelligence~? Then also, would that be dependent on learning styles that are founded in those various types of intelligence~? ie., visual intelligence, audio/musical intelligence, analytical intelligence, intrapersonal learning intelligence and types of intelligence we don’t even consider that may exist outside the realm of human existence~ IQ tests themselves are tailored to different cultures because of both Crystalized and fluid intelligence differences~ I’m pretty sure the IQ test would be different for somebody in the states then it would be for somebody in Cambodia or Poland or a Yanomami of the Amazon~ Taking that a step further: with the diverse considerations/criteria for IQ tests among human beings, none of our tests could measure well the IQ of birds or whales, a mantis shrimp or an octopus, dogs, cats or wolves~ (All of which possess crystalized and fluid intelligence~ Yet only some of those have gone to school as we know it~). For human IQ tests, the taker has to have learned enough to be able to understand the questions and apply problem solving to them~ Yet much of what can be learned or taught in “school” is also based on Crystalized and fluid intelligence, isn’t it~? Types of IQ questions involve these below categories below … all of which are dependent upon what an individual has learned or been taught, (an individual can learn and be taught without ever having gone to “school”): Analogies (mathematical and verbal) Pattern driven (spatial and mathematical) Classification Visual Spatial Logical
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Yes… well noted there and perhaps better explained. thx~ 👍😎❤️ I wasn’t implying he didn’t do well in his classes with regard to grades but, that he didn’t well in the school environment~ The example was to illustrate that teaching methods don’t necessarily reflect “well”, the abilities, capacity and potential for an individuals ability to learn and excel in something~ The incompetence not necessarily being the student but the educational systems methods of teaching individuals with learning styles different then the standardized teaching methods~ He, (Einstein), was apparently great in math, physics and violin but, more average scoring scholastically in other subjects~ His learning style didn’t mesh well with the teaching styles in the learning institutions he went to~ This article shows a bit of that… is it an accurate article, nycman~? https://www.openculture.com/2020/04/albert-einsteins-grades-a-fascinating-look-at-his-report-cards.html
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Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?
+ Tygerscent replied to a topic in The Lounge
Your secret would have been safe with me… You could’ve come to my house and we could’ve played naked in my tent outside. My parents wouldn’t of been upset that we were two boys being naked together. They would’ve been been concerned that we were having advanced sexual relationships at an early age and probably asked us to wait until we were a little bit older when we better understood sexuality. When my niece came out to her dad at age 10, saying that she liked girls and wanted to have sex with them~ My brother responded the same way that my parents responded to us. He told her that there was responsibility associated with sex and asked her to wait a few years before having sex with anybody, (regardless of gender), adding that with sex came emotional and physical responsibility but, that those things would come with age and general life experience. He asked her to focus on things like school and friendships so that when she became sexual, no matter who she slept with, she would understand better the foundations of having a relationship with somebody over all and how to more appropriately respond to both her relationship choices and sexual body urges. For our family, the approach was perhaps a cultural difference more than a generation difference. When I was younger, I was exploring sex at very early age without a gender preference~ By the time I was 12 I had a fairly sophisticated concept of the difference between “love” and physical hormonal horniness~ Where “Love” is something more psychological and emotional that can be expressed thru loving actions and where being sexual with another person is an expression of your affection/like/love for another individual but, where ones sexual nature is not the foundation of love or like psychological or emotional relationships~ More simply: Love can be expressed thru sex but, sex and lust are not necessarily Love~ That really affected the types of relationships I pursued during the course of my lifetime~ My “relationships” have been long term bonding ones and never based on sex although sex has been part of those relationships in general. Growing up, I had a number of male friends that I sex with~ It was “buddy sex”/“Sport sex” but also, “friendship sex”… We also had relationships with other genders that were more typical of “partnershiping”~ Originally, I was in an arranged marriage situation but, my “to be wife” walked up to me outside one day when we were 11 Yrs old and told me we would not be getting married because she liked girls~ That was the end of that… She still had relationships and sex with boys but, went in to partner with a woman who she has apparently remained with all this time. They have a farm somewhere in Wisconsin. I had several long term relationships with woman because I wanted many children… My last mixed gender relationship was with an identifying woman and we had no children but, did have lots of fuzzy buddies that we considered family~ The boundaries of our relationship changed, (not due to sexual preferences and the love between us remains to this day), and we separated~ When what happened, I made a conscious decision to pursue a sexual life relationship with another male. The overall all effect of these experiences is that, while I am a sexual being, sex and any sexual preference is not my “identity”… other things on the personal identity list are higher priority. As I’m reading the responses in this thread, I am hearing peoples past influences and now would like to hear where people are with their personal identity. Is your personal identity predominately about your gender or your sexuality or is it other things~? Are your present day relationships founded in emotional/psychology bonding or physical/sexual bonding~? Growing up in a post 60’s/70’s environment there was also the “free love” concept~ People in the 60’s had a concept of non-traditional sexuality and family relationships~ Speaking specifically about culture in the states, the youth then came out of the 50’s mentality and diverged into something different as they hit puberty in the 60’s and 70’s. Maybe some of that led to Stonewall and the “gay rights” movements later on~ Some people might remember the song by David Crosby: Triad… David mentions “Sister lovers” and “water brothers”… “and in time maybe many others”~ (it’s a Beautiful song on many levels and the link is below). “The term "water brothers" is from the book “Stranger In A Strange Land” by Robert A. Heinlein, which explored (among other things) non-traditional marriage/family structures. The term originated on Mars, and it indicated the deepest relationship possible. Its literal meaning is "someone with whom you have shared water," a very selfless gesture on the water-parched planet.” …Crosby states in interviews that this is not merely, (a song), "about" three-way relationships, but that the song "happened, several times." Crosby was involved for some time in the late 1990s-early 2000s with both Melissa Etheridge and her partner, Julie Cypher, and was the biological father of their two children. So, I think depending on where you grew up and how, the ideas of non gender specific relationships and sexuality were out there~ -
Sad for the loss but, better for having known him~ Blessed Be, Daddy~
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