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Straight White Men will star Armie Hammer.

Straight White Men will star Armie Hammer.

We seem to be living in a period that supports and encourages small-minded cretins! As long as reality tv stars are the standard we can look forward to a lot more of this!

I saw Channing, Pearl Bailey, Martha Raye, Mimi Hines, Ginger Rogers and Ethel Merman in the original production. However it was Betty Grable that was best. She actually created a character and did not rely on who she was or shtick.

I blocked Mocha a long time ago. Good riddance!!!

FACT: You visited his ad. You know his new rate structure.

MY ASSUMPTION ON YOU: Oh boy, I know what his new rate is but I’m not going to tell him that I know about his new rate. I’m going to continue screwing him over until he says something to me. And if he does mention it to me I’m going to tell him I can’t afford his higher rate.

 

You do what you want but I’d pay his new rate and say something polite when paying him “here’s your fee based on your new fee schedule. Thanks, again, for a great massage. See you next month.”

Where is this coming from? Did the OP do something to offend you?

Duh...You pay his published rate. You sound like a cheapskate to me.

Not nice. Uncalled for. Aren't there enough snarky people without you joining them?

Mine was an outcall. So, maybe.

Steak tartare at a good restaurant is not made from ground beef. It is raw tenderloin very finely chopped.

Tenderloin is beef. I used the generic term 'beef' not as a specific ground cut!

One of my favorites. Unfortunately, you can't trust US ground beef so I only eat it in Europe.

Easy commute from Grand Central to LIC

He was one of the very first masseurs I used. He came to my place and the massage was done on my bed, which was less than ideal. Nice guy but with no real massage skills, unfortunately. Was a pretty relaxing experience but not memorable enough to hire him again. /QUOTE]

 

Same.

I don't know any such thing. Perhaps you should speak for yourself instead of presuming to speak for others?

Ah, yes, I am sure the vast multitudes hire escorts without any expectation of physical 'stuff.' They spend hundreds of dollars just to pass the time. If your response was not meant to be snarky, I apologize.

No and NEVER

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You're paying for time.

Patently untrue! We all know what we are paying for. What we have to say to hook up is another story!

Hard is hard. Soft is not acceptable or forgivable if money is changing hands.

This is why I defend the escorts here that post their limits. Age, race, weight, etc. You get a guy who doesn't give a shit other the how much you got then you'll get the experience you deserve. That or some that just think putting the quarter in the machine and expect the dancing monkey. Not thinking that maybe those other reviews had something you didn't. Lastly, maybe everything was right but you just caught them on a bad day. Not much you can do about that. That shouldn't be a continuing problem though.

As long as you pay attention to their limits why should YOU have to pay for their not living up to what they say they are?

I agree it's a grey area. I don't think there's a singular solution. It's gotta be a matter of handling it on a case by case basis. Yes we are paying for time, not performance. On the other hand, if I went into a restaurant and they served me something that wasn't even close to what I ordered, I'd certainly have no issue sending it back. Yes, it's a shaky analogy, because an escort is not a plate of pasta. But, you get my drift.

What is grey about it. You contracted for a service. He could not deliver. Where is the grey?

No he did not. I felt he did give his best.

Wouldn't his best have been what was contracted for. If his best was acceptable shouldn't half his fee have been acceptable as your best? There seems to be a double standard here.

Paying for time is a euphemism. You know it and the provider knows it. It is not a 'get out of jail free' card if the provider does not live up to his end of the bargain. Would you pay a dentist if his drill did not work (pun not intended!). If you can't speak Italian don't hire yourself out as an Italian teacher! Why is the client always expected to overlook deficiencies but the escort gets excused? I would still like to hear the justifications, excuses and suggestions from the escorts on this board.

I agree. You for sure should put a similar question up on ask an escort. They should be able to give you some rock hard advice.

I just put the question on "Ask an Escort"

There is a thread in the Deli about this and someone suggested it is better asked in this Forum. What should we, the clients, do if someone who is hired as a top cannot perform? Cannot get hard? This is what we are paying for. What do you, the escorts, think we should do. Just accept it and suck it up? Pay only a portion of the fee? It is a serious question that many of us clients have.

On Friday I had the first experience where an escort could not perform. He tried but for me off through other means but could not top me and he did exaggerate his dick size as well. Nice guy but won't repeat. I guess I've been lucky or maybe it was chemistry. He did apologize later .

Did his apology include a refund or rate reduction?

Suddenly it worked!