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I see both but how is it relevant?

Jamie. I think this is from an era where paradigms were much different. Nowadays I woukd agree men hanging out in parks and bathrooms probably would be reliably labeled as gay. However maybe the culture of those times were that working class straight men knew you could make a quick buck at the park with a "fairy" if your baby is home hungry and crying. Some of that culture is present still only difference is alot more misappropriation and cosplaying that causes the cynics to believe they are all gay and pretending. The experts know how to tell the difference. Warning: Do not try to evaluate on your own. Seek the counsel of an experienced straight whisperer.

Because for you sex is about a physical activity standard. Trust me for guys who seek out straight men exclusively it can get deeper than any physical act can provide.

Gymowner I dont think we disagree on much. I am saying when you're mind is made up that it's straight or nothing you probably get really good at telling the difference between a real straight guy and straight acting (I belong to this camp). However the modern gay liberation movement had caused many to scorn gays who think like Gifford. I have always said if you have the means and authentic masculinity is your thing go all out and accept no substitutes.

Gymowner when someone has Gifford's mindset they usually know the difference between a straight guy and a bullshitter. Many ppl(especially on here) always rely on the guys self definition and not much else.

What looking for?

Are gay men exploring their love of vagina these days? Get that tongue deep into the clit and get out all the juices mmmmm 😜

Public would these be "straight" muscle bottoms?

His eyes are giving me "Im fabulous honey".Give em two snaps and a twirl

As someone who considers myself a straight whisperer or maybe even THE straight whisperer I agree with you.J dissaprove of trying to get strsight guys to bottom or suck dick. Those are the thibgs that will make them wake up the next day feel disgusted with themself and kill you in a rage(if they were actually straight). When dealing with straight men I recommend sticking with the usual paradigms that make sense when seeking the company of a straight man. I lowkey think gay men who wanna top straight guys have a fantasy with sociopathic and sinister influences. So i side eye all the ppl on here with endless talks about straight bottoms bevause most likely theyvare being conned by some gay dude but in the rare event the guy was actually straight they should know they are doing something that could turn out to be damaging and worse if he is a first timer you the client might turn out to be a last timer who may soon be referred to as the late great version of yourself.

I dunno about you guys but anyone withvthst past is a red flag. If he overdosesxyou will be the last person in his hotel or he in yours . I don't need these kinda complications in my life

Without clicking on the ad im sure you will find what I call a "poser". I do believe alot of gay men who are straight passing abuse the system more than anyone else. Straight men are genuinely few and far between in this biz and naturally they have more limitstions and a higher bargain. That is different than the affected style of presentation you see from the "posers" who simply offer less value. The distinctions might not be palpable or may be meaningless to some but for those that can distinguish the two it is everything. Part of the reason the distinction between the two matters is because ppl cant change their orientation but ppl can learn to manipulate identity. That is why I dont deal with straight fakers or should I say fake straights and I tell ppl get your straight men from an authentic source or you are contributing to the loss of value of your own money

Didnt he help to set Gillium up?

Ill admit i cant comprehend that level of addiction. I want to find young gay addicts qnd watch them eat out the twat of a fat sweaty elderly woman to see if that level of desperation works both ways.

1. Since when does the gaze of the object of lust matter to the luster? If you are watching a rugby match and know the player only dreams of banging shielas(lets pretend hes an Aussie) are we supposed to say im not a shiela so dont engage in any erotic thoughts? Do gay men who are overweight and of advanced age stop fantasizing and drooling over gay men who wouldn't touch em with a ten foot pole? They drool,they solicit,and they get what they need. Money is the most powerful drug known to man 2. This is where I am in total agreement with you. I dont believe anything anyone says on a site just cause they say so. However I am a different case from everyone else as my skills and resources are not available to most 3. If it is confirmed the guy is straight(that is important) then there can be a rush when gwtting someone to participate in any activity that is novel to them. Seeing the way they respond or the things they say. There are alot of authentic scenarios that present that wont when dealing with gay men i.e. giving relief to the undersexed husband/dad or targeting men with certain careers more likely to be straight and alpha male such as fighters,bouncers,cops,athletes etc etc. Some men are only attracted to what they deem authentic masculinity. In the absence of that they feel no attraction whatsoever no matter how conventionally attractive the guy is. Some gay mens definition of hot is a 110 pound twink scantilly clad dancing on top of a table. Some gay mens definition of hot are the men they saw growing up and they never learned how to switch to only be attracted to gay men. If we are going to be honest there is a significant difference between how gay men and straight men present. Compare pride parade attendees on average to say attendees a titty bar or a parade for the reigning mlb,nfl,nba,or nhl champs. Its a different demographic and other than anatomy there are almost no other similarities. Your opinion is definitely your right and I dont believe you are harming anyone but I do believe you are jusging them slightly and we are all guilty of it from time to time. The sentiment of "I dont get why anyone would ....in reference to sex/attraction can always be used against gay ppl in general by anyone who doesn't share those same feelings. Ex. How could you like dick as a man? I dont get it. Trust me its just as baffling if not more to alot more ppl than why a gay man would like the ultimate representation of masculinity a straight man.

Tbh I always find it weird that most gay men always have anecdotes with straights as bottoms or suckers. I dont buy it ,so far as I believe most straight men will fight to the death to keep a dick out their ass or mouth. There are straight men who might have suffered abuse or a few who might have a strange phallic attachment, you tend to see these men attracted to trannies, but the seemingly high prevalence of clients encountering straight bottoms is insane. Something aint right under the hood but I will leave that to you guys to figure out

There are alot of biases in everyone's paradigms. For example you just said I don't understand muscle worshippers. Alot of gay men have vanilla interests or interests with more of a pyschosexual component that they feel with the same intensity as a double fisted anal penetration. I find alot of gay men into straight men do have a psychosexual fixation. The access to the straight mans body to do the most mundane things is more satisfying than doing the most graphic things with another gay man. If you as an onlooker are missing that psychosexual component or dont understand it it can look silly. From a political standpoint gay men tend to like to enforce certain social norms of solidarity that for many don't apply for some in the bedroom. Ppl are gonna like what they are gonna like. As long as they aren't harming anyone let em be.

Exactly!

Its not weird and it may not even be a fetish per se. At the heart of it you probably are attracted to what you deem as archetypical authentic masculinity. If you walk into a sports bar in a rural Midwest town you know what I mean. It is a natural from the pores type of masculinity that requires no effort no thought it just is. Some types of masculinity can be performative and for many that performative clone type masculinity suffices. But some like you want the genuine article. Nothing wrong with that but just know what you are doing and stay safe

Now thats a name I havent heard in years. He is from the classic age begore social media and international escort databases. Anyone remember TrulyHuge the 350 lb nfl player? Scott Klein? Johnny Bravo? There was another young Blonde bodybuilder whos passed whose name escapes me. Heterosexual all American types arent as represented in this industry as they used to be. Would love to see oics of Solofkex

I dont know about agencies but there are networks. For example alot of straight college athletes have been hired out privately for wealthier gents. Working classs blue collar men especially ones who may have records preventing them from certain jobs are sometimes available as well. Its about knowing people as there often arent wen sites or billboards with neon flashing lights.

6'5 325 lb bodyguard in Orlando who guards a famous politician. Hung like a bull too

For those into muscle there will be a buffet of beefy behemoths around who are sonewhat open. Who is going or has had success past years?

Lol love this gif.

I dont think its always bad to pay a deposit in advance. If an escort wants to travel to another city it is reassuring for them to know they will have some reliable support. I say 100 dollars that will be applied to your total should suffice. Make sure that it is clear what the money is intended for and ask beforehand what the providers intends to do with deposit should trip be cancelled or postponed. The client should however be prepared to not see that money again. Stay away from gifts until you meet the provider and dont get wrapped up in their financial drama. Escorts who do good biz can make money very quickly and one way to do that is by making the sessions an escape and not a burden.