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Why in hell should a masseur disclose that?!?!
 
No offense, but the idea of demanding that perpetuates stigmas of those who are positive.... as if someone could catch HIV from being touched.... (that’s so early 1980s)
 
 
However, if the massage goes down a sexual route, one should always behave using sound judgment and personal responsibility, and should treat every encounter in a way that preserves your own health.

These guys are getting shrewed listing prices for 30, 50 and 80 minute sessions.

Everyone here has really nailed it from both the client and the masseur side. I wish I knew about this forum when I first started, would have saved me a lot of meh experiences.
 
As a masseur/scort my advice would be(sorry for repeats, I feel they are important enough to read again):
 
-DO go with your gut, if you get a bad feeling through a call, imagine the feeling you’ll get when you knock on the door, instinct is usually right and although it only happened once, I had to leave a service halfway into it, and that’s me, and I’m an “anything goes” fetish friendly experience, so imagine the amount of creep it takes to make me walk out the door.
 
-DO get a professional scheduling app(online scheduling if you can) to keep track of appointments, even better if clients can see your schedule and book their own appointments.
 
-DO be open minded. Even if you want to be 100% legit and therapeutic, clients make requests constantly, always consider them and their comfort, I have done strictly therapeutic massages nude because I have clients that are more comfortable not being the only one naked in the room. There is nothing wrong or illegal about 2 adults being nude in a room together, you can relax some and still be a legit professional.
 
-DO NOT take appointments that you can’t keep. When you start out you are fresh meat and you’ll get a sudden influx of appointments, don’t let it go to your head, you are being tested, do well and word will spread.
 
-DO NOT use your phone during appointments! I have an iPhone and I turn on driving mode and set up an auto reply that states I’m in an appt and will get back immediately after, that way people know I’m busy, not ignoring them, and clients don’t have a therapist hovering over his phone.
 
-BIOTONE period. Coconut oil is a good 2nd Incase they prefer oil.
 
Lastly, be fair, charge the standard rate in your area FOR THE SERVICES OFFERED, don’t charge $150 an hour for a therapeutic, at the same time don’t lowball yourself, don’t charge $50 an hour for erotic(or people will think you are either terrible at it or desperate). Price takes practice and fine tuning, you’ll find what is both fair to clients and gets you enough appointments to pay your bills.
 
It’s all about the regulars. They are loyal, they deserve more, go with a regular over a new guy if you have to pick one, and I ALWAYS give my regulars free upgrades. Over deliver consistently.
 
Sorry it’s so long, TLDR Don’t get cocky, treat your regulars with the respect they deserve, be creative and be ready for some situations you didn’t prepare for.

Oh Another one...
 
If you have a roommate and are taking incalls, let your customer know went they book. Hearing other unexpected people in the place is odd. I hired one guy and went to his place. Walked in to the front door. Bam. Massage table in the living room. But he lead me to his room. So I figured it was for practice or perhaps extra. Get to his room and on the table there and later during my massage, I hear another person going up and down the stairs.
 
Well after my massage was done, a black curtain was pulled from the living room area so you couldn't see from the stairway and I was led out the backdoor through the kitchen. WKOSIT?
 
I concluded that his roommate was also a masseur. That's fine and dandy. But at least let me know. I am sure the roommate's client found it odd hearing us as we were going down the stairs too as I was having some small talk about asking for water, and as I mentioned, the table was right in the living room. Just not a good look if you are not telling your clients before hand that you are in a shared space. A tleast let me have the option to decide if I'll go with the booking or not or letting me know if the roommate will be there or not or possibly arrive during the session.
 
Another time, I hired a new guy and the appointment was at the same apartment of another guy I hired a few months back. I didn't see the other masseur but, yeah. That was kinda awkward.

Definitely can see that. No spas here do stomach, glutes or inner thighs either, so I’m with you and I charge approx what they do but with to your door (or incall) service that includes all the areas spas miss, so they can’t compete and the Disney Tourists who are planning on paying the crazy resort prices anyway, are happy to pay for room service massage that hits all the spots for less than what the resort spa would charge.
 
I think I mentioned “for your area,” I know the price difference between BFE and NYC is pretty drastic, I’m in Orlando so I was using examples from my area, so your prices may vary drastically either way above or way below.
 
Just suggesting a new masseur takes location into account and fairness for the area, $150 for strictly therapeutic in Disney Orlando is more than fair and less than most spas, you could probably do $200 if you wanted to, but I don’t want to be the guy who nickel and dimes people, so it’s a halfway point. $150 to local orlando is a little excessive and I’ve seen new masseurs as low as $65 (which is a red flag to me to be so low compared to the standard), so I do $100 an hour for outcall therapeutic outside of Disney to take locals and travelers not on a saved vacation budget into account, to this day though the resorts always glare at me walking my table through the hotel haha.
 
I still see people come out of nowhere trying $250+ for an hour therapeutic, then they disappear a month or so in and I’m sure they wonder why, it’s not a get rich quick scheme but building relationships with clients over time, lots of communication, marketing, keeping your client base happy while always taking new ones. I feel like some new people see the rates and think they will be making 6 figures in a week and don’t realize that for every hour actually spent working there are probably 4 or more hours communicating, marketing, advertising, and scheduling for future appointments, so your 10 hour workday varies, dead days you get 1 paid hour out of it, busier days (Wednesday oddly enough blows up here aside from the obvious Friday and weekends) you might get paid for 8 hours and then adding travel and such it’s a loooong 12 hour day.
 
That’s another good one for new masseurs:
 
Be realistic with your expectations, some weeks you will be completely booked out to the point you skip meals and stay up late to fit everyone in, some weeks you will only have your regulars, and it takes time to build those regulars, so don’t expect overnight success, you need a wide skill set outside of the massage itself to make it work. In the beginning you might have half a week between appointments once the “fresh meat” phase wears off unless you have built up to having those regulars.

Do have some flexibility with regular customers, the same way we have it with you when it comes to scheduling and cancelling.
I had a masseur that was seeing sometimes 2x per week for a few months. One day I scheduled an appointment and literally was so tired that fall asleep and did not wake up on time. He called me and I apologized, instead of saying no problem, he demanded the full session paid. I did via paypal. And I never hired him again.

Do not claim that you have certificates and thousand of hours of training. We can tell. Be honest and we won’t feel that you underdelivered.

One thing that sets MY regular go-to guy apart from the crowd, is that he starts his session by showering WITH me, scrubs me down and sets the mood with some scintillating moves, under the warm water.
Beyond that...as others have noted. Don't over-do the oil or lotion...and be sure to clean it off with washcloth and dry with a towel when you're done. Don't just send them to the shower again ! Do it for him.
If you're offering "erotic" be clear up front, where your lines are drawn. Too many times, I've signed on for an erotic session, that wasn't anymore "erotic" than a massage, I've gotten at a legitimate spa. That makes
the experience disappointing, and my tip disappear.

We know you are busy and see other customers. But don’t let us know that we need to hurry because your next appointment is in 10 minutes. Do allow buffer time between appointments.

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Always post current pics that truly reflects how you look. Even if you have wrinkles and don’t have a six pack that’s ok. Confidence is sexy. And we all like different things.

Always post current pics that truly reflects how you look. Even if you have wrinkles and don’t have a six pack that’s ok. Confidence is sexy. And we all like different things.

Tons of great tips here...
 
Some masseurs doesn’t know this. As a client your face is down and you have no idea what’s going on inside the room. (Even if you know it’s just the two of you) So try to minimize or if possible have at least one hand always in contact with your client throughout the duration of the massage. It gives a client a sense of security during the massage session.
 
Hope this helps...

Always express gratitude for tips.
Can be a quick text right after the session.

I recently had a massage where the masseur pulled up a you tube video to use as music. That would have been fine (the video was appropriate spa music) but the loud ad before the video killed the mood. I’ve also had masseurs play free pandora or Spotify stations that had ads in the middle.
 
A masseur needs to have proper music on his phone. Note I didn’t say streaming. This way there is no fumbling for WiFi or other issues. The music should be played through at least a portable speaker. If using the phone, make sure it is in airplane mode or at least have notifications silenced. I don’t want to hear a continual parade of beeps, chirps and dings as the masseur gets various messages.
 
For the love of god, don’t answer or text while in session (I’ve had multiple masseurs do this, never went back to any of them)

Bottom line to me is this. Marks has not shaved a few years----more like .5 to 1 DECADE from his age. To each his own but a year or 2 is kind of ok in my books but 3 is overt deception and more is outright lying. That is my bottom line.

Someone post a link for those of us on our phone! I'd like to be able to judge him myself, ty.
 
Usually don't mind age shavers if they can pull off representing the age they describe... what bothers me is when I see guys looking way older than me (37) & they're trying to claim that they're 28 or 29

As Jack Nicholson said, "You cannot handle the truth!" I be damn if I am going to pay 300, 400 or 500 for lies.

This thread, indeed, has some fantastic tips.
 
For right now, I’ll add:
 
Have realistic expectations of your client’s appearance. While you may get lucky and get an appt. with a hot gym body, most of the time, that’s not going to happen. Be prepared to deal with heavy, older, partially physically disabled men, etc. and treat them all equally, even if you’re faking it. As long as you’re good at doing that, you'll get repeats. And if you decide HE is appropriate, at least pretend to be into it. I hate when you look up and the masseur is looking away and/or looking bored.
 
Get a portable table. Personally, I will not hire a masseur who doesn’t have one. Whether it’s true or not, I always think to myself if he were legit, he’d have a table. Plus, I’ve had several on beds and despise it. I can’t get comfortable, and I can’t see how the masseur can be comfortable. Plus it takes away one of the thrills of a massage for me, which is when they get close to my hand (if you know what I mean). Beds are awkward for that.

This thread, indeed, has some fantastic tips.
 
For right now, I’ll add:
 
Have realistic expectations of your client’s appearance. While you may get lucky and get an appt. with a hot gym body, most of the time, that’s not going to happen. Be prepared to deal with heavy, older, partially physically disabled men, etc. and treat them all equally, even if you’re faking it. As long as you’re good at doing that, you'll get repeats. And if you decide HE is appropriate, at least pretend to be into it. I hate when you look up and the masseur is looking away and/or looking bored.
 
Get a portable table. Personally, I will not hire a masseur who doesn’t have one. Whether it’s true or not, I always think to myself if he were legit, he’d have a table. Plus, I’ve had several on beds and despise it. I can’t get comfortable, and I can’t see how the masseur can be comfortable. Plus it takes away one of the thrills of a massage for me, which is when they get close to my hand (if you know what I mean). Beds are awkward for that.

Very nice points, and it seems that the list keep growing. My two cents is, that he should be able to read the client since the moment they met. For instance, I encounter some masseurs that talks too much during the massage, if the client doesn't engage in the conversation that should be enough sign for them to know when to be quite it. It is important to check on the client during the massage to make sure everything is ok, but the chatty chatty ?? No bueno!

I know op mention this was outcall but these are things in general for me...
 
At home or when traveling, make sure you have a decent sound system for your music. A Bluetooth speaker goes a long way versus a tinny cell phone speaker.
 
Also don't text or check your phone with a client. We can tell.
 
Make sure you have used the bathroom before starting the session. I have had guys exit to pee before I understand nature calls but try to do everything to reduce the chance that you'll have to break pause the session. It's awkward lying on the table face down, naked, and and oiled up with nothing happening.
 
Don't short people on their time and give yourself enough of a buffer between clients. If I hire you for 90 min that's for the massage. Not from the second I walk into the door. Allowing a buffer is good because 1 the massage could escalate to something more and if you have an appointment later, you want to give yourself enough time to to give that client a good massage as well.
 
I'm flexible and always ask if a masseur is available after ☓ time for Y minutes. So that way I can work around them. Usually I'll try to be the last client or the first on an slow day which means it's likely to be a very fun massage. So be flexible and offer alternative times that will work if there is a conflict.
 
A few of the masseurs I have used have sworn by Biotone as a brand. I really like when they use almond oil. It feels really good and not super greasy and doesn't stain. Also warming it up a little feels awesome.
 
Always have cold water and maybe some candy for when people leave.
 
I'm OK with being contacted after the massage but a lot of guys don't like this. Especially if they are trying to be discreet. So consider that if you reach out after the sale. At least ask if it's OK to text them later before doing so. I used to have a guy sending me half nude photos and texts about specials over 6 months after I hired him. They always came at inappropriate times. And if you do contact at least make sure the text doesn't read like you're begging and on the verge of eviction.

+1

My two cents here... I’m all for unsolicited posts be they good, blah or bad. Having someone’s experience registered here provokes discussion and this is a forum for sharing and discussion. As in this case, it all comes out in the wash. I’d hate for anyone to be dissuaded from sharing a real experience.

True it's important to enjoy the actual massage part but I prefer some fun while I'm still face down too.