Gymowner

This is an asshole. Does this idiot realize that more than likely 1/4 of his clientele has the virus? Maybe hatred for what he does and who he is?

Wow this is a douche bag. That is the number in his ad. I text him and his remarks to me were less than flattering I can assure. Not to this degree but I never hired nor ever will.

apollo phoenix did do a gay vid of sorts with the guy from sg4ge. he got a blow job from the dude.

sexymonk sums it up perfectly. i wonder how many of the men lending out their hard earned $$ do it for reasons of insecurity and the need to feel liked. talk among yourselves.

Florida, yes there are good guys out there. The good ones will put the "onus" on themselves and trying to find a way to earn the money. Not "borrow" which really means "give it to me".

And one more thing guys. A legit escort would offer to set up an additional session so he wouldn't have to ask to borrow the money. "So and so... I'm really in a jam financially and need money quickly. Can I ask a favor? Can we schedule a session in the next day or so so I will be able to pay my bill"? That would be a legit person asking for a legit way to make, not borrow quick cash. Guys... please, please, please read this and learn the lessons from those who have already made these mistakes. And if you are so smitten, so "in love" with the said escort, stop and go directly to a shrink and figure out why you have such a need to be dumped on. Makes it sound like the woman who writes, then falls in love with the inmate in prison.

Sorry guys but again scratching my head here. Not trying to put anyone down yet we all have to grow up here and be smart about it. Generosity is fine. If he asked for the money..GIVE it to him no questions asked. If you cant afford that when he asks to borrow money tell him "better yet let's have an extra session on x and you can leave with that money after the session". My regular who has moved recently lost a day job he had. Somewhat bummed out knowing money would be tight till he left. I said "I have an idea. Let's get together twice a week instead of once a week till you leave". Helped him out financially and no need to ever ask me to borrow any money (this is a great guy and I highly doubt he would have ever asked in the first place). Benelovency is an awesome thing. Give freely and generously when someone is in need. Setting up a situation to be taken advantage of is another.

Tom, I dont know if his tone is demeaning. I know I for one am trying to help. We are talking about grown men here... not children. He is correct if self esteem is an issue from things that did or didnt happen in life, money would be better off used to find out why these issues are here in the first place. Let's not forget what the escort is for. An hour or two of companionship. To go beyond that needs to be looked at.

So Living... what is your said "optimism" in this sort of situation? That the escort becomes even more gorgeous over time while finally stating to the world " this John is the best human being I have ever met. I am becomming attracted to him day by day and cant stop thinking about him. I no longer want to take money from him but will ask to move in next week with him" You use supporting writings to make a point. Yet what concerns me is that your last paragraph doesnt try to help the John say "no" to these warning signs yet make a point of others using "defensive pessimism" when trying to help. When a mother sees her child putting his hand up to a fire on the stove she quickly takes him away and gives him a lecture with "defensive pessimism". Is that wrong? Or should she help him "identify the warning signs so that next time he is better prepared? Both are parenting to help. Just a different way to help create the urgency to not do something again. That is the point here.

Everyone needs to wake up, stop thinking with the little head and please stop calling and thinking of these guys as any sort of "gods" whatsoever. Please stop that! Most of the guys hiring are far more successful, have led far more interesting lives and need to start acting and thinking like the status of people they are. Thinking anyone is a "god" creates the thought process that that person is far inferior than the one that is a "god". Man what a lousy way to think or live. Which leads to this sort of manipulation and taking advantage of. Who is more at fault? The one doing the taking advantage of or the one allowing this to happen? Guys.... most on here have really big things to deal with and have accomplished in life to let such a trivial thing like getting off or needing false friendships with a young good looking guy to even be having such discussions. Once in awhile companionship...sure. think about this guys! Noone is putting anyone down here but damn, wake up men! Again....they have what we WANT. We have what they NEED. Who do you think is in control and holding all the cards? Alot of bad poker players here I'm afraid.

I love when guys with huge cocks get an arm sleeve around it...an arm sleeve!! Imagine if you were the tattoo artist on that one "sir you have to keep that monster hard the whole time I'm at work on it. It will take a few hours. Go take a few viagara and I'll make sure to do my best keeping it rock hard the whole time". Whew!!!

Tom it seems to be very prevalent on these boards that many many gay men fawn over their "muscle gods" to a point that if they saw the "muscle god" shoot someone in the head they would justify a reason for it since their beauty clouds all sanity. We see it over and over here. I wouldn't say it is a "diss" as much as it's a wake up call. When you hear the same thing over and over it gets kinda crazy. If one guy on here can snap into sanity just when one of these "muscle gods" is ready to go in for the kill and stop him in his tracks, then all will be worth it.

just make sure you keep it on a business level and you should bo ok. guys...im not saying to be still and unfealing with the escort. on the contrary! the time you spend with the escort should be warm and to your needs for that time. to "hope" it goes beyond anything but this is the foolish part. as wolfer said above, many people in many situations fool themselves and get taken advantage of.

wolfer you said it perfectly!

i cant believe how grown adult men get caught up constantly thinking (or hoping) that a very attractive male escort will become best of friends or better yet, having the notion that the said hooker will hopelessly fall in love with the old guzzard and live happily ever after. its unbelievable to me. this is a business transaction. not a bad thing at all. keep it that way and no one gets emotionally hurt. case in point. there is a newer dancer at one of the clubs where i live. big muscle guy. handsome but after chatting with him a few times can tell he is somewhat of a wild guy. not bad just young with that sort of energy that when not focused can be dangerous. i chat with him and give him a few bucks now and then yet he seems to always say or do something that is off putting to me. so i go a few weeks ignoring him and it drives him nuts. well last night he comes up to me and asks how i am. i told him i have been having some health issues lately. he looks at me and says "lets talk about it when i get done with my next set in 30 minutes". ok i thought. the nice side comes out. so i eventually go over to give him a few bucks while on the box dancing as a nice gesture to his kind words. first thing out of his mouth when he bends over is "yeah..i knew you couldnt stay away from all this hotness for long". he wasnt saying it with any kind of brevity. more like a "i got you you fag...no one can stay away from this hot straight guy" type of talk. fine in the bedroom but not at all appropriate where it was being said. i was putting my second dollar in his g string when he said this. right at that moment i not only stopped putting the second dollar in there, i took the first one out. i looked up at him and said " the smile is nice, work on the muscles getting harder and the big mouth has to go for sure". guys...you have to always remember... these guys have what you WANT but more importantly we have what they NEED. keep this in mind and you will have very little problems.

aw's site has him constantly having sex with guys on camera with a look like it is being secretly taped to look natural and not staged. if this flight attendant knew anything about aw he would know this. to me, and this is just a hunch aw told him that the videos would be part of his collection that he makes money from. many of these porn guys have this in their grindr and scruff ads willing to have sex with guys and use the vids for their personal gains. done all the time nowadays. the kid was more than willing to do his part. it is very easy to recant your story once you get caught. again...just a hunch.

Hired him about a year ago in vegas. Very nice guy. Was at the time out of shape. Had a gut on him.Still had an ok time with him being that he was so cool.

my point on this matter is that a true straight man by inclination is attracted to women. big deal right? yet if he can perform to your standards then it doesnt matter what you look like at all. he can take his mind to where it needs to go for you to have a good time with his body. i know that some will say "but i want him to want ME". yeah right. grow up. have you seen how most guys look that hire? a gay guy, he will have to be able to do the same. many can. most im afraid by nature will sum up the looks of the guy in front of them and that will create the level of performance for them. a natural instinct.

married? deal breaker for me. there is an extremely handsome escort that i hired recently and found out that he is married as well. done.

there hasnt been an adonis event in las vegas for about 4-5 years

Your "label" then would be inclusive of who you date/marry/fall in love with. You may also be a bisexed heterosexual if you feel your lifestyle is in tune with the heterosexual world.

Hot white I totally understand. I didnt want this to go down a road that was not the intention.

poolboy is on the right track. guys please do not look too much into things and make false conjectures that others will claim as truths. it could hurt an escorts lively hood and thats quite honestly not right

guess it doesnt matter if top if 4" or 10". when the head only goes in 1" its a 1" pecker!

Oh here we go with the liberal PC bullshit now. Your statement "of course to the rational mind" is as berating and arrogant as can be. Hip hip... "if one doesn't think like my college snop mind then one is irrational and also stupid" How on earth does anyone make the assumption that AW did not get verbal consent? The kid when in trouble may try to backtrack out of the situation.Do we not know that in the heat of passion the kid could have thought getting banged and shown on the internet by a stud could make him a hero of his friends? No we do not. Just as well we do not know what was totally said in that bathroom and on the flight leading up to the romp. Get real guys. The kid is at fault. AW is a total jerk. Get over it all.