Redwine56

All you know - you pose a very interesting question. From what I see, a good number of masseurs who are approaching the $200 range seem to have more of an open invitation in the wording of their offerings. If you read their descriptions closely, they tend to make you think that there could be more than a message in the offering. From my experience, if I have ever reached out to them in this price range via phone, I've usually gotten the same impression after speaking with them, although they may not go into detail until you meet. There are those that will even upsell above the asking price for additional services. Let's just say grooming and facials to keep it clean here. So the possibility does exist, maybe not in all cases but you have a valid point.

Yes, Super Men is higher priced than all of most other spas but it is new and there is a private shower in each room if that is important to you. It's a matter of your priorities.

Especially if they are a 'masseuse'.

Based on the above comments, does one schedule a message but get a lap dance instead? He does have a certain mysterious appeal.

Yes Jim, absolutely. I stand corrected.

Agree with all comments mentioned. I will add that I had a message with him a few months ago at his LIC apt. Nice location, although not NYC. Comfortable message table, does nude and HE and is a nice guy. The message is acceptable, certainly not outstanding but the price is right. He is willing to meet you at your hotel or will arrange a rental place on 14th Street if you don't want to travel to LIC.

These scammers should come to know that us members of the Forum are wise to their BS and one step ahead of them. Pity the poor guy who falls for this with untold troubles to follow.

Hello there Jerry - you had to have the one and only Alan at Greenhouse. Did you see Tony? What was disappointing about the message? Alan usually throws in some sensual touches. Curious to hear.

To the Good Men of the Forum - we've mentioned "Joshua" from San Francisco who had a short stay in NYC. Well, you've got to google "joshuamannbodyworks" in CA. You can explore his website and find pics of Josh in all his glory. He says that he is subleasing an apt. in NYC for the summer since he was so popular during his recent short stay. I mentioned that I had contacted him at the end of his stay. He seemed nice enough. We should get some insight from our San Fran forum members. He does have a hefty price tag.

I looked at his location and noticed NYC for May 23 & 24.

Is Javier in NYC this week? If so, where is he hosting? Thanks.

He is currently on masseurfinder.

You're speaking of a nuru message where the masseur oils his body up and then mounts you and he rubs all up and down you body to body. I hear that this type of message is very sensuous and often leads to complete arousal and full blown sex.

Take a look on rentmasseur in nyc and you will find him. He's a nice looking guY. Looks like a Mediterranean/black mix. Nicely built.

Glee - Remember that between midnite and 6:00 AM, the masseur's contact information is not listed. This was done so as not to encourage any soliciting of masseurs during the night for salacious activity. There is no trust between 2 consenting adults.

Quoththeraven - I do agree with you. You are right on point about this. When I saw all of those young women come forward detailing the abuse that they were subjected to by Larry Nasser, I found it hard to believe that kind of stuff could have gone on for so long affecting so many women with nothing being done about it. There's no doubt in my mind that these women were being truthful. When you saw the look on the faces of these women when they had to testify and tell their stories, it was heartbraking. How did he get away with it for so long is the question? When these girls went home and told their parents, what happened? Could the school brush off that many allegations? I don't think this kind of thing would happen as easily today in the current environment.

He's caught my eye as well. I like his look. It appears that he doesn't host but will make arrangements at one of the shared space places on 14th Street. He's new to NYC recently coming from Florida.

I believe he is new on the scene. One of the newly added masseurs since all of the changes took place on the sites.

I contacted Josh while he was in NYC recently. We had a discussion and he explained his menu of sorts. It was made clear to me that he was more into an escort experience than just a plain old message and if interested, he was more than willing to meet expectations. He seemed like a really nice guy. When asked about a return to NYC, he said that if business was good, he would return. I caught him towards the end of his visit here and he said that despite the NYC competition, he had quite a few calls interested in a guy from San Fran.

Good for you, TopVolt. As they always say, go with your gut. Glad it worked out for you.

Please . . . Not at all the intention of the comment. I may have been a bit too light hearted on a serious subject matter but the intent of the comment was to evoke a chuckle. I admire you guys and wish I could have been there. All the best.

No, not at all. You've got me wrong but you are entitled to your opinion. If you believe that all of these stories are valid and worthy of prosecution. that's your opinion. I tend to be a bit more skeptical and have learned thats it's not always wise to takes things at face value.

Well what I'm suggesting would be voluntary, not mandatory. You know that no matter what, there are always ways to get a leg up on the competition. Just saying . . . And I believe that guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing. Crying on TV with Gloria Allred by their side, is truly nauseating. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but there's no doubt in my mind that some of this stuff is all about the $$$$$$! All the more reason why we need a good message.

The producer must get a piece of the action as part of the 'audition'. If the candidate passes their litmus test, they get to be on the show. Just think of the free publicity for the escort . . . Unless they already have a good following and prefer to stay under the radar.

Would the recent Palm Springs weekend have anything to do with this outbreak? Damn . . . . Those parties must have been wild!!