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Great tip on the site.

Speaking of observing trends, I have been following Effective Reproduction Numbers on rt.live website. Rt is a good (although not perfect) indicator of how effective disease control measures are in a geographical area. The numerical value represents how many people, on average, an infected person could transmit the disease to. The better the control, the smaller the number. The model used to create these graphs makes a whole lot of sense in terms of epidemiology, and you can totally see that the upticks in almost every state happened soon after reopening. I'm only bringing this up in case this website could be helpful for our members to monitor the situation in their state so they can make an informed decision if they are considering an encounter. The numbers are updated real-time.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

Speaking of observing trends, I have been following Effective Reproduction Numbers on rt.live website. Rt is a good (although not perfect) indicator of how effective disease control measures are in a geographical area. The numerical value represents how many people, on average, an infected person could transmit the disease to. The better the control, the smaller the number. The model used to create these graphs makes a whole lot of sense in terms of epidemiology, and you can totally see that the upticks in almost every state happened soon after reopening. I'm only bringing this up in case this website could be helpful for our members to monitor the situation in their state so they can make an informed decision if they are considering an encounter. The numbers are updated real-time.

Speaking of observing trends, I have been following Effective Reproduction Numbers on rt.live website. Rt is a good (although not perfect) indicator of how effective disease control measures are in a geographical area. The numerical value represents how many people, on average, an infected person could transmit the disease to. The better the control, the smaller the number. The model used to create these graphs makes a whole lot of sense in terms of epidemiology, and you can totally see that the upticks in almost every state happened soon after reopening. I'm only bringing this up in case this website could be helpful for our members to monitor the situation in their state so they can make an informed decision if they are considering an encounter. The numbers are updated real-time.

I almost succumbed to the 'need' for something tactile. But this thread has saved me, thanks guys!
 
'someone saved my life tonight sugar bear'

Owing to many of my family members living places like Huntington Beach (the Florida of California as I like to say) it's refreshing to be able to come to a thread about this and not have to argue the logic and common sense of all of it, and why it isn't just a giant global conspiracy to tank the economy and make everyone wear a mask. Thanks guys!

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

It's easier to catch than you think, and pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic shedding is real. I too long for a really good massage, but according to what I know and the stuff I see at work, I have made a personal choice not to take a risk at this time. However, as Mr. Jones has pointed out earlier in this thread, when it comes to a disease as transmissible as this one, there really is no such thing as a personal choice. By taking a risk, you also automatically make a decision for those around you and the public to take a risk with you. I do understand though that providers also need to make a living. This whole situation sucks and I really hope a sustainable medical solution is available soon.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

It's easier to catch than you think, and pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic shedding is real. I too long for a really good massage, but according to what I know and the stuff I see at work, I have made a personal choice not to take a risk at this time. However, as Mr. Jones has pointed out earlier in this thread, when it comes to a disease as transmissible as this one, there really is no such thing as a personal choice. By taking a risk, you also automatically make a decision for those around you and the public to take a risk with you. I do understand though that providers also need to make a living. This whole situation sucks and I really hope a sustainable medical solution is available soon.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

It's easier to catch than you think, and pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic shedding is real. I too long for a really good massage, but according to what I know and the stuff I see at work, I have made a personal choice not to take a risk at this time. However, as Mr. Jones has pointed out earlier in this thread, when it comes to a disease as transmissible as this one, there really is no such thing as a personal choice. By taking a risk, you also automatically make a decision for those around you and the public to take a risk with you. I do understand though that providers also need to make a living. This whole situation sucks and I really hope a sustainable medical solution is available soon.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

I totally agree, except that in the US we never really got over the first wave so whatever we are seeing now is not even the second wave yet.
 
I'd have to set something straight though. Some of the gents here seemed to think that the increase in cases has been due to the increase in testing, but the growing proportion of infected patients requiring admissions to ICUs/requiring ventilators strongly suggests that it's not all due to increased testing but more likely a more widespread of infection in communities, and maybe even an increase in virulence of SARS-CoV-2 now that it has spent some time in the human population perfecting their tools to make their infections more efficient. Most of the media are not pushing any fear-mongering agenda. What I'm seeing at work tells me that the we are so far, far away from being able to return to our pre-pandemic lives.

For those of you saying "it was sanitized" like, how do you know? Did you see the provider pull fresh linens out of a sterilization bin? Did the sheets look OK so you are just assuming? Are we going on the word of providers who have little to no experience in proper sanitation procedures? Seems like we may be thinking with our little heads, gents.

It's easier to catch than you think, and pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic shedding is real. I too long for a really good massage, but according to what I know and the stuff I see at work, I have made a personal choice not to take a risk at this time. However, as Mr. Jones has pointed out earlier in this thread, when it comes to a disease as transmissible as this one, there really is no such thing as a personal choice. By taking a risk, you also automatically make a decision for those around you and the public to take a risk with you. I do understand though that providers also need to make a living. This whole situation sucks and I really hope a sustainable medical solution is available soon.

It's easier to catch than you think, and pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic shedding is real. I too long for a really good massage, but according to what I know and the stuff I see at work, I have made a personal choice not to take a risk at this time. However, as Mr. Jones has pointed out earlier in this thread, when it comes to a disease as transmissible as this one, there really is no such thing as a personal choice. By taking a risk, you also automatically make a decision for those around you and the public to take a risk with you. I do understand though that providers also need to make a living. This whole situation sucks and I really hope a sustainable medical solution is available soon.

Of course it's too soon. We all know that, though we wish it was not the case. The virus is more prevalent now than before. There is no vaccine. The easiest way to get it is to be in an enclosed space with someone for more than 15 minutes, even if they aren't breathing hard. If someone is willing to give you an answer you'd rather hear, ok. But you already know you are risking your life, the lives of those you come in contact with, and the lives of the health care workers that will have to care for the worst cases we create by not waiting till this is actually over. We haven't eradicated STDs and they are far less transmissible.

LOL ? I don't know if that's possible here....

I would agree. I also like Abe

Meeting Peter Hung again in a few days. Cannot wait.

Pamperup was a really annoying experience. During the massage he talks incessantly. "Doesn't that feel amazing?" "I'm the best there is." "Aren't you glad you came to me?" Then he lies on top of you and says "If you thrust your hips I'm kicking you out. Don't move." Yes it was nude, MT and a mechanical HE.. but man his need to tell you how great he is every 20 secs is intolerable.

Trying him tonight. DM me if you guys have any questions or need details!