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Sounds like you had a different experience. Good for you. I can only share my experience. Its a legitimate typical small spa at street level of a nice building. 

Thanks for the info! As for James could you go into specifics of how little qualms he has? You can message me about it as well!

Hey, looking for any recommendations or insights into older “dad”-types and bear masseurs in Chicago and NYC. Love muscles, but more into older and hairy men. Interested in individuals as well as locations to check out. Thanks!

I don’t think a visit to TJ these days is worth the risk. 

compared to New York, LA and Chicago?  look around dude we're not safe in our own country.  

For the uninitiated… who is “we”?

Thanks for info 200 therapeutic in boxers…no need for me to pursue   So many options for less where you get more lol

I couldn't agree with you more. And the grabbing of his crotch, for some reason, turns me off. 

Lighten up, Mary. 

I e since made three trips to TIjuana (two specifically to go out to Premier). Had a blast every time. 
 
I’ve learned that if you buy them drinks. They spend time with you. Such an easy way to tip them when they’re not moving targets!! 
 
Was able to make it to o e of their men-only nights and while I loved the crowd (it definitely rings in the locals!), I don’t hate it when the women are in the bar.  The dancers, at least the ones I was interested in, knew who was gonna, butter their bread for the evening and they were incredibly attentive, conspicuous in their stopping at my table, and generally loads of fun. 
 
I have to admit that these trips have spoiled me and I basically don’t go out to LA bars anymore just to quench my stripper thirst. Now it’s either Adonis, Tijuana, or I get on a plane!  

I can't wait to go to Tijuana sometime. I hope things have been gotten better there safety wise. I have a friend from there and he is one of the nicest guys I've ever met.

Yes, I'm a huge fan of TJ as a destination for both escort services and strip clubs. The gay equivalent of the hetero Hong Kong is Premier Men's Club. Personally, I think it's currently experiencing an ebb and isn't what it once was. They have some really hot guys but a majority of them are just average. Most of the top Premier dancers have left TJ and immigrated to the US and now work in LA bars as gogo dancers (Lalo O'Conner, Noel Alberto, Yancarlo of Club Papi). It's still a fun time especially during Solo Para Hombre nights when only men are allowed and the guys are more open to doing stuff during lap dances. There's also small gay bars that have gogo dancers. Bendito Cabron is a new bar that opened up last year that has hotter guys than Premier IMHO. I would caution that crossing the border from TJ to back to the USA is an absolute clusterfuck atm and may take more than 3 hours because of the current border situation and CBP staffing shortages. Also, ever since the pandemic ended, TJ has seen less American tourists and you're more likely to get stopped and extorted for money by the police. I never had this happen to me before the pandemic but it's happened to me twice just in 2023 alone.

I've seen this term before. Can you please explain what it means in a massage?

He asking 600 a hour. I decided to pass 

A two-year-old thread where most of the recommendations are no longer active 

No experience with this provider but I was able to find this link from RMass
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Good grief. As the OP, I am (re)focusing this thread. Has anyone seen Hayden?

He has an ad on MF now too. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/50178/
Assume there are extras besides deep tissue, sports, Swedish he mentioned? Any more recent experience?

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I think it’s this guy 
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As I said in PM, happy you had a great experience
 
Mine was the POLAR OPPOSITE. That was 6 months ago, so perhaps he and his ways have changed. Perhaps me walking out on him was the catalyst for him to change.
 
Either way, again happy you had a great experience !!!!

Saw him recently. Looks just like photos - incredible body, mutual nudity & touch throughout. Downsides (for me at least): used scented body lotion; decent-ish massage skills but a lot of repeated motions; distracting music. Felt like we didn’t “click” but that may have been on me. He seemed open to extras and might be worth checking out for those. 

YMMV stands for "Your Mileage May Vary." It's often used to express that the experience or outcome of a service can differ from person to person.
If the masseur likes you, you'll get more goodies, if not... just the standard / baseline service.

He is charging erotic rates for therapeutic only. Pretty overpriced. Thank you for saving me the trouble, gentlemen.

Simple answer: I am the client and I want to pay in cash.  If the business does not accept my preferred mode of payment, I will go somewhere else.  In this case, I will hire someone else.
Why would I ever transact business with someone who makes it so difficult for me?  I am the client, I am the one to be pleased and satisfied, not the other way around.