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I have had very much the same experiences with SA. It takes work. I find that there are a lot of 18-20 year olds that have no idea what they are doing or why they are on SA. I stay away from that age group. After you get away from the scammers and fakes.... the biggest problems are the flakes...guys who engage very nicely at first but then just drop out of communication..those can be frustrating if you feel you have connected...but I just move on. I agree about the no allowances and I never send any money in advance. Also the best way to book flights is with miles. That way if you need to cancel you get your miles back for a small fee. Some airlines don’t even charge you for putting the miles back. If you charge a airfare to your CC you will most likely will loose the fare or pay a large cancellation fee...unless of course you are flying them unrestricted coach, business or first class. There are definately some great guys on SA. I hear that they get very weird requests or not very well done requests from Sugar Daddies. If you respect them, state clearly what you will give and communicate nicely you can meet some cool and nice men.

Who are the best traveling masseures you have experienced? In terms of a good massage and sensual/erotic combined.

… Well my kettle is actually white but you are correct that I made a mistake and I should’ve used masseur. Thank you for the correction.

For my two cents on reading reviews on massage sites. If they have a history of reviews that spans a period of time then I think the reviews are more accurate and more reflective of the masseuse and their quality. That is not always true but it tends to be. It is very difficult these days to actually understand if a masseuse does sensual/erotic massages. You can sometimes get the vibe by the pictures or the generalization of the masseuses description of their massage. This forum is by far the best way to find out about a masseuse and what they do during the massage. It is so important I believe that we all give information about any masseuse we see on the main gay massage sites. I have many times been attracted to a masseuse on their ad and want a massage but have read here on the forum about them and made a decision not to go to them. On the other side of the coin I have found some great masseuses on the recommendations given here. This is by far the best place to find out about a good masseuse… Or a bad one.

Hi guys I’m going to Denver this weekend and wondering if anybody has a great masseuse that they could recommend for a sensual/erotic massage.

The same phone number is being used in Denver today also. It is also being used in Phoenix today. Not sure what is going on but obviously it’s not legit. Escort service?

No. Did not feel right. No reviews really and I wasn’t crazy about having a four handed massage… Just didn’t feel right.

Hey guys! Have any of you had a massage from Zephyr who is based in Klamath Falls Oregon? He is in Albuquerque now and would like to get a massage from him but I would love to get some feedback if anyone has seen him. https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/healing_winds2.shtml

Hi guys! I remember years ago (80’s & 90’s) that there was a bar on the eastside for escorts and clients. Does anyone know if there are any bars in NYC that cater to Escorts? Thanks!

I saw him yesterday. A decent massage. He is nude. Said he would do HE but stated we ran out of time. He did it for me but was not into it. Nice body. Pleasant man. A bit expensive I think.

Did you see Sagan? How was it if you did? Thanks

Hi. Did you get a massage from Colby? How was it if you did? Thanks

I would just look at this as a humorous adventure. Every so often this happens and one just needs to keep his guard up. My philosophy is no money ever unless it is in person for a fair exchange...or a small amount in advance for transportation.

I think you are generalizing a bit here but you do have some valid points. I think it is also important to note where the SB is located. Living on a ranch in the southwest I find that a lot of young men use it to find a local "daddy" because there is nothing available on the other online or app sites. SA mostly has decent Sugar Daddies. I think the big cities are a far different case. Everything online takes weeding out the bad boys...dating sites, escort sites, massage sites, sex apps......it takes time and some experience. Sometimes it is worth it. I do miss the days where you could only meet guys at a gay bar or event.

He was lean, yes a little hair on his chest...bald I don't remember. I just know that he was absolutely the best sensual experience I ever had with anyone....he knew a mans body and how to be erotic will all of a mans sensitive points....I would leave drained because of the experience but so in touch with my body and my sensuality.

I think I remember who you are talking about. I forgot his name but I saw a guy on Geary also.....the massages lasted a long time and he used many different things to sensualize the body. We was especially fond of the rear end as I remember....haha. He was one of a kind.

Has anyone received a massage from these guys? I guess there are looking to see America by getting one or two massages in while they travel. I wonder how good they are. I suspect not too good.... They have the most ridiculous schedule:

It would be great if there was a place to review SA sugar babies. Mainly to warn and protect Sugar Daddies from scams and bad experiences.

Good review of SA men. I will add to take a very light hearted approach. Do not get upset or demand things if things don't go your way with a young man. There are plenty of young men on SA and more get on every day. Just move on. I do think it is important to be right up front about sex but do not be over sexual. If you want sex and they don't move on. Too many guys think they can meet a rich older man just for company. I am sure there are older men that just want company but most want sex in some type of relationship.

The ones that make me laugh are: 1. Giving the finger as a profile pic. 2. Sticking their tongue thinking that is attractive. 3. A picture of them at least 300 feet away or more. 4. The need for lots of money but they want nothing sexual. "Just looking for a mentor and friend."

Did either of you try Luigi out?

He is one of the best. One the best experiences I have had in a long time. Especially in San Diego.

I have contacted this guy quite a few times. He also has an ad on Seeking Arrangements. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d64b54bd-f3db-e609-def4-18e9d875a698 He is difficult to chat with. Very picky. Not really into being an escort and does purely for the money. Not into customers. I think he is using this escort life as just a fun way to display his pictures. He may pick you. I would be interested in hearing if anyone meets him.

I have used SA for 4 years. It does take some time and effort to find a decent sugar babby. I usually ask how the site is working for them. Most say they have had little luck or never met anyone. I then ask to be specific in what they are looking for out me and what they want. Some are wishy washy and others are very clear. Most want me to offer them something. I don't want a live-in or a monthly arrangement so I state I want a casual thing that works when we both can match up our schedules. I offer a one night $$ amount and a weekend (two nights) $$ amount. It is not a lot but it seems to satisfy most sugar babies. The ones that want thousands of dollars are not even chatted with again. I say that is too much and leave it at that. Some do negotiate and I listen to their offers. Sometimes we come to an agreement and other times it does not work. What is the best situation? It is a young man who digs older men and does not want any money but just expenses paid...or minimal amounts for spending. They basically use SA to find cool and sexy older men. Yes...there are a lot of young men on SA using it for that reason. I had a few really cool and sexy jocks that were fun and and we enjoyed our time together. I had a couple of duds that knew nothing about having good erotic sex. Then I had one who was adding money during sex in order to go on....he was sent home that day. Overall....great site but it takes work. I like to spend more than an hour with a guy and I like to connect. It works for that reason for me and is far less expensive than an escort.

Andrew is fantastic. Fun to talk to, great kisser and loves sex.