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That's about as crass as saying "I only go to grindr and scruff to find hook-ups." It's not like you are using the comparative literature study groups section of MeetUp for that purpose.

 

?On second thought, if you DID use a comparative literature study group to identify business opportunities I might join one. ?

lol...well, my first cousin teaches comparative literature at a liberal school in the Midwest, so I'll bone up on what that might entail! I always did think Faulkner was kinda sexy.

If a guy on Scruff/ Grindr turned ou down, but his RM profile say available, would u try to hire him?

 

My issue is if they're on apps giving it up for free, why pay.

 

So seeing an escort on cruising apps, turn on or turn off?

 

Steve

This has happened to us before...more than once. I think this has everything to do with the guy's ego and self-image. If he feels like he's a catch, then sure, he's going to be self conscious about being given service fees. If he knows that he's probably not our type but is horny and wants to follow through on a fantasy, then it's not an issue. There are as many reasons a guy hires us as there are guys who hire us. However, we try to be kind and respectful to everybody who is kind and respectful to us. Also, and this is just personal, we RARELY hook up for our own extracurricular. Grindr and Scruff are potential connections for a business opportunity. It sounds crass, I know, but we are very transparent about it when connecting.

I feel like onlyfans brings you closer to the content creator, perhaps even offering you a chance to potentially shoot something with them and collaborate on some content. I’m starting to see it more that way. I wish there was an easier way to filter through the guys and find ones near me in nyc who are open to working with fans and perhaps be propositioned. haha.

Maybe suggest that to the webmaster. I agree there needs to be a way for those who want to meet up to have the ability.

It's all rather lame. I think a lot of these guys might make some good money in the short term, but is there a sizable enough ongoing market that's just content to look at shirtless guys teasing?

Those accounts rely on massive amounts of new subscribers. Renewals only come with quality content.

Well, we believe there are a few reasons people pay to see what we do...or what any creator does. First, it's real sex between us. It's not staged for cameras or random scene partners. The husband has certainly done enough of that to know the routine and is not at all interested in repeating it. This model is much more sustainable for the participants and seems much more engaging for the consumers. Second, you get to know us pretty well. Since it is real sex and our real encounters, you get a connection to us that you don't get through the studio work. Somebody mentioned Gabrielle Cross doing a good job at engaging his subscribers. Yes, that part of it is crucial and takes a tremendous amount of attention. Between creating the content, editing the content, creating the posts and responding to the subscribers, it is a second full-time job. We even include fuck sessions with subscribers. It's the ultimate in connection with the "fan base". And third, I think a lot of people realize you don't get the free stuff without somebody being paid to create it in the first place. If there wasn't a monetary incentive for creation, you wouldn't get the content you want to see, even in clips and teasers. There aren't enough exhibitionists out there willing to post purely for the cause of exhibitionism.

Now, obviously there is plenty of pirating going on. You can always say that's what will continue to give you the free stuff to watch. We pursue those fairly vigorously and are mostly successful in having things removed. That being said, it does happen. However, if the content you're seeing is always pirated and the creators lose money due to the practice, then that goes away. When that goes away, then what are you left with? You're back to studio porn and complaining that it doesn't seem passionate or real or is too...whatever.

So, our opinion (and it is discussed a lot) is that this part of the "industry" will continue to find better ways to evaluate content for the consumer before subscribing. For instance, we only advertise for other creators who are in the top part of the earnings and followers. We try to avoid advocating for somebody with shitty content. We are also trying to improve ways for you to understand what the content is like before you subscribe. That's why we give discounts and share on twitter. Basically we believe that the market will take care of itself in the long run. The poor providers will go away due to lack of interest and the best will continue to improve.

You have observed correctly that there are A LOT of profiles out there now, but not all are worthy of your investment. It will take time for this new delivery method to sort itself out for those consuming. One thing we know for sure....men are fucking horny bastards, and we love to watch fucking.

Without hesitation, Griffin Barrows and Tyler Saint.

 

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Appreciate the testimonial, my friend. We do absolutely enable all our content for subscribers. You see everything. We post every day, have 500 full length videos there with over 1000 photos and are in the top 3% creators on OF and JFF both. We have a lot of friends in the "business", however, who have scoffed at us for losing money by not posting PPV content. I just had a long conversation today, in fact, with somebody in the top 0.5% of creators. He recommends we drop our subscription price to entice more subscribers with teasing content and load up on the PPV. He says that's how he came to have nearly 3,000 followers making $350 a day. It's hard to turn down those kinds of numbers. He even stopped escorting thanks to the strategy.

I'm betting you could probably do Ok with @TylerandAce.

But in any case it looks like Paxton and Kellan May be singletons now.

 

Gman

lol...we play well with others

Builder Boy, you'll have to DM and tell me more about this! Sounds juicy!

SO FUCKING HOT!!! @TylerandAce Tyler is such an AMAZING man. Love all his videos! And the guy on the table, very hot too! But Tyler....??

I'll tell him you said so!

I hired Ace for a weekend almost right after he came to notice here. The pictures I have date from January 2013. Ace mentioned at the time that he was out of a long term relationship and been talking-possibly online- with a "guy" from California. I'm pretty sure the "guy" he was talking about was Tyler. I'll bet there is a good chance this was before the Palm Springs Dinner as the dinners were usually held in the warmer months. And I don't think Ace would have been well-known enough in 2012 to have been a guest at a Forum Dinner.

 

Gman

You were my first long-distance...was just getting started. I learned a lot from you then. Won't forget it.

Lucky you Epigonos....I had them booked and last minute flight issues forced a cancellation from them......soooooo not happy

yeah...we still need to make that get-together happen!

The hottest three-way I've ever experienced. The entire experience was mind boggling. Have tried to reconnect many times but our schedules just haven't meshed. Two really great guys!!!!!

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One of these days, my friend! It was too good not to repeat! XOXO

https://rent.men/TandA

 

 

Just taken today and posted here with the express permission of Ace of @TylerandAce.

 

 

Gman

Thanks my friend. We always smile brighter on vacation! lol :)

I am 90% certain that I’m booking a trip to Portugal in September. Thinking three weeks. I may ship a cross-bike over and ride from Lisbon to Porto. Lots of hot providers there, too. Hopefully, Covid will have eased by then.

That's a beautiful landscape through there. Hidden beaches...most of them clothing optional. One of my favorite stretches of coastline in the world.

I WANT to be that Lucas Vitello! @TylerandAce, please!!!

That was a hot scene!

Isn’t this our very own @TylerandAce Tyler Saint? Now, that’s how you kiss!

That's Eric Rhodes....but he was a great kisser!!

Hey! What about me??

you, too!!!! of course!!

When this crisis passes, I want to surrender my body to Tyler and Ace! If that means driving from DC to Mississippi I will!

It's an easy trip!!! We'll have the table set and the oil warmed!

Don’t tease me, Ace! ? ?

would never do that! Massage is what he does! Still films them, too

Anyone know who the guy on the table is, e.g. is he in other videos?

Noah-something, but I'm not sure if he appears in anything else.

Wow - Tyler really rocks that speedo - at least for me. Pushes all my buttons. And then some. . .

I don't recall having seen this one before so I am doubly appreciative of the posting. Thanks! I really do think I need a massage - but I also think I might have to wait for the covid thing to abate somewhat.

Happy to make it happen whenever things are good again in the world!

[uSER=3916]@xafnndapp[/uSER] Get in line!! ?

 

I want Tyler to do that head hanging over the end of the massage table move on me. ?

That is his specialty!

If I ever decide to hang out in that dodgy area near the railroad crossing, I’ll bring a folding chair and some Girl Scout Lemon Ups. I like

my guilty pleasures all at once.

I'll bring the thin mints!

Happy Belated Birthday, Tyler!

 

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OMG...I can't wait to show him this! lol. Too funny Thank you!

Lol. Several of the grocery stores in the suburbs of Chicago near and northwest of ORD. A lot of airline workers, and a substantial influx of younger Eastern Europeans in the last few years. Within two or three miles of my house, there is a LA Fitness, Crunch Fitness, Planet Fitness, XSport Fitness, YMCA, two local park district facilities, and a few independent store front facilities.

 

They all gotta eat after their workout, and you usually see the guys in the produce aisle, or in the meat department, unless they’re there with gf/wife, then sometimes in the other aisles.

That sounds like a guy I was interned with at sex camp! He'd sit in the Walmart parking lot watching women go in and out of the store pushing shopping carts!...lol.