JuniorNYC

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There are better options out there. The bathhouses in NYC are abysmal, but there are a number of low key sex clubs/sex parties where you're more likely to get more action. Try this site:
http://groupsexinthecity.com/

@OliverSaks - Was your name inspired from the author, who wrote one of my favorite books?
 
“Music can lift us out of depression or move us to tears - it is a remedy, a tonic, orange juice for the ear. But for many of my neurological patients, music is even more - it can provide access, even when no medication can, to movement, to speech, to life. For them, music is not a luxury, but a necessity.”
― Oliver Sacks, Musicophilia

Yeah depending on the rate, at least he got paid something. Some of these MFers be bold. Its not fun to have to smash out windows. We don't have time to be plotting payback. It's fun to do once or twice, but we're just not in the business for that.
 
I once long ago had an Adam client take up 2 hours of my time, and at the end act completely ignorant that he was supposed to be paying. It seemed like an honest misunderstanding but it was so avoidable on my part that I didn't even have it in me to carry out a detonation on his home that I was in.
 
That was one of the most disgusting lard of crap I've ever come across. I would never ever ever. How he could even think I would want to.
 
Based on the size of his gut in proportion to his thin body, karma was already on it's way. I didn't even need to ask for it. Luckily it was just basic stuff involved so i only felt financially raped, not physically.

When someone says they feel like they were raped, "take a deep breath and get over it" is awful advice. Most of the answers here are focusing on the business side of losing $60, but you need to look out for your entire well being. You don't want to be on a path in life where you're in your 60s, retired, and still thinking about getting raped as an escort. If you have 500 amazing sessions and 3 where you felt sexually violated, which is going to leave the stronger impression on you and affect you later in life? There's no answer now, but that's what you need to think about.
 
My advice is to let some time pass and see how the memory of it is affecting you. If you're still feeling violated, @Mocha isn't off the mark. How many times do you want to feel this way before you change how you operate, or test the wonderful waters of revenge to see if that helps your well-being? If this client regularly treats escorts like that, you'd be doing others a favor beyond a personal vendetta too. Take a deep breath, but if you aren't getting over it, don't feel like being traumatized every year or two is something you should be putting up with without making a change to protect yourself.
 
I'm sorry this happened to you and I hope you're feeling better.

I think AdamSmith and Marylander1940 Should discuss their differences by sending private messages to each other and let the rest of us continue to discuss the topic of this thread which is "getting ripped off by a client" which is what I intend to do.
 
From an accounting point of view all businesses recognize bad debt expenses and allowances for doubtful accounts that are routinely written off after being deemed uncollectible (normally after one year, but not always). Of course businesses have legal channels and remedies available to them, i.e., reporting bad debts to credit reporting agencies, filing a lien in certain cases, the court system and various other avenues.
 
However, in this case there don't appear any realistic or viable opportunities available to you since you're operating an illegal business operation. An attempt to collect using normal channels would be shot down in a New York minute. My take on this situation is that you just need to realize this is going to happen from time to time. Accept it, move on and adjust your pricing structure to accommodate such losses. Yes, it sucks getting stiffed $60 but if that's the worst think that happens to you in this business you are are way ahead of the game and should consider yourself luck.

@OliverSaks - Was your name inspired from the author, who wrote one of my favorite books?
 
“Music can lift us out of depression or move us to tears - it is a remedy, a tonic, orange juice for the ear. But for many of my neurological patients, music is even more - it can provide access, even when no medication can, to movement, to speech, to life. For them, music is not a luxury, but a necessity.”
― Oliver Sacks, Musicophilia

Indeed, my name is an homage.

@OliverSaks - Was your name inspired from the author, who wrote one of my favorite books?
 
“Music can lift us out of depression or move us to tears - it is a remedy, a tonic, orange juice for the ear. But for many of my neurological patients, music is even more - it can provide access, even when no medication can, to movement, to speech, to life. For them, music is not a luxury, but a necessity.”
― Oliver Sacks, Musicophilia

Re: Karma: from a blog of one of my favorite Buddhist "masters" - Brad Warner, whose book "Hardcore Zen" I would highly recommend. (He spends some time on karma in the book, but here is a bit from his blog below"
 
"I've been seeing a lot of nonsense about karma regarding the recent disasters in Japan. There's a webpage going around that supposedly lists dozens of Facebook status updates saying the earthquake and tsunami were karmic retribution for the attack on Pearl Harbor. Now
is saying it was some kind of message from God. Pat Robertson has apparently learned his lesson and is keeping mum about what he thinks. 
The people who post these things about karma haven't got a clue in the world. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you cannot ever know someone else's karma. You can't even figure out your own.
 
I've often talked about how I can see karma operating in my own life. When I say that I am not referencing things like natural disasters and so-called "acts of God." I'm talking about how, when I act out of anger, angry action seems to come back to me, often from sources other than the object of my original anger. Same with greed, jealousy and all the rest. I am not talking about things like, I dunno, a bucket of soup falling on my head from a third floor window after I stole a copy of Penthouse from the newsstand or whatever. Get those kinds of ideas out of your heads, people!"
 
Annoying to get shorted, sorry it happened to you Junior, but I think ya'll could maybe think about karma in a more personally productive and less "violent" way.
 
-0S

I won't cooperate moving this thread out of subject, after all I already told @JuniorNYC what to do by PM...
 
Oops I did it again.

I always get a chuckle about how much I agree with you outside of the politics forum. Over there, virtually everything you say is wrong but over here, I think we could actually get along. I guess beautiful men will eclipse politics every time.

Wow!

Or maybe this (ex-)client is just a cheap selfish f*ckface. My theory is that assholes sh*t on other people if they think they can get away with it. Would this client go into a convenience store and try to steal $60 from the register? Probably not because with the witness plus security cameras, there's a good chance he'd get caught. But he had no problem stealing $60 from you (shorting your fee by $60 is flat-out theft in my book) because he knew he could walk out the door before you realized you'd been shorted. Even if you counted the money right away, he could just pretend to be mortified about his "innocent" mistake, no big deal.
 
They say that we are so quick to see in others what is true of ourselves. If so, then this ex-client trusts no one because he's a lying, cheating sack of sh*t and assumes the same of everybody around him. Karma has already caught up to this asshole because any person who trusts absolutely nobody lives an awfully lonely life.

I sent you a PM about this.

I'm very sorry you had to go through that.
Said that, now that I know you do not count the cash, I would like to make an appointment.

At the risk of sounding cavalier, karma will eventually catch up to him. Venting is healthy, especially in a forum such as this one.

I totally agree with what is being said about not adjusting your business model based on one (or even a few) bad apples. I would be upset at first too, if it happened to me. But I try to look at the net benefit I enjoy from this enterprise, and if I am getting what I want out of it or seeing the overall results I am hoping for, I would consider that type of occurance just a cost of doing business.

Well that sucks. Sorry that you got stiffed. When I hire a masseur or an escort I usually make sure they count the money or I count the money in front of them. It is somewhat awkward but I want to make sure he's paid his dues and then some ;-)
 
I think for future appointments you should tell clients that you can only take them an hour past the original one if he's running late. Just say you have another appointment in a couple of hours after you appt with him. Then don't book him again. LOL

You sound like a great escort. That client is an "asshole". He knew what he was doing. I think that most clients are respectful and appreciate his escort. Like anything else in life you will meet jerks. I can say that not all of my experiences with escorts have been great. Some have been shit. But I learned and moved on. My one recommendation in this business trust your instincts with clients. That's what I use for choosing an escort after years of doing this. It works.

Focus, like NORAD does, on your Distant Early Warning Line, and cut Trouble off at the source!
 
That is NOT to say tamp risk down to zero before you even get out of bed. We all navigate oceans of worthwhile risk every day.
 
But tune your sensors to pick up on users and pathological personalities immediately, and tell them Good-bye.

LOL - thanks. I sent him a couple text messages, and it's been about 2 hours now with not response. You are right about it evening out - but I still feel shitty that someone would do that.
 

<3 That brought a big smile to my face. Meh - shit happens. Too many amazing encounters to be grateful for. I think I'm officially over it and officially going to sleep! Thanks!

I'll get over this but I am so incredibly saddened about what has just happened to me. A client, who had been texting me for the past 2-3 days to meet up finally decides he wants to meet up tonight. The ETA starts getting later and later, until finally he gets here a little past 11:30PM. Mind you, I'm usually in bed by midnight because I have a full time job which is my main priority. I was very nice and accommodating the entire time. Anyway, he shows up and seems like a nice guy and all. I won't get into details, but I will say the encounter was a little more difficult for me than usual. There were a number of things that turned me off when usually I find more things that turn me on about a client the more we talk and the more intimate we get. He ended up staying a little past the hour, and as he left he put the money on my dresser and said goodbye. This was one of those rare encounters for me where at the end of it, it felt like a lot of work. It wasn't as effortless as practically all my other encounters and I was a bit exhausted from it. A few minutes later, after he had already left, I counted the money and noticed he stiffed me by $60! This has never happened to me before, and I'm really upset by it.
 
I'm not really asking for advice (or maybe I am), probably more just venting here, but I will say two things; (1) I'm so fortunate that after doing this for a little over a year and half, this is the first time this has happened, and (2) I feel incredibly used - I feel like it might be a little over reactive of me to say I even feel like I've been raped in some way, but, yea, it kind of does feel like that. Part of me wants to find some sort of way to seek revenge but really what good would that do? I can't write a bad review or blast his number out in a giant escort newsletter anyway. I have to suck it up and move on. But now I'm wondering if I should change my approach with how I receive money in the future. I avoid having the encounter feel like a transaction, and usually discussions about my rate, etc. last a couple seconds - a simple confirmation - and the subject changes. I confirmed my rate with this guy a couple times via text. I didn't ask for the money upfront because, well, that just not how I do things. But now I'm left with the question, should I let this encounter change my protocol, or should I just suck it up, learn how to screen these guys out and continue with what seems to have been working great up until this point?
 
Luckily the night before I had an amazing encounter with a client, and we connected really well - plus he tipped me generously. Anyway, I don't know what I'm really asking, but if you've gone this far, thanks for reading and sorry for babbling on. If anyone has any advice or a joke to lighten up a bad experience, thank you in advance. I guess the way I've been receiving cash (asking at the end, and not the beginning) does put me at risk for this to happen, and perhaps it was just my time. It also wasn't THAT much money... It still sucks though! Alright, well this has already been helpful and it's way past my bedtime. Goodnight!

LOL - thanks. I sent him a couple text messages, and it's been about 2 hours now with not response. You are right about it evening out - but I still feel shitty that someone would do that.
 

<3 That brought a big smile to my face. Meh - shit happens. Too many amazing encounters to be grateful for. I think I'm officially over it and officially going to sleep! Thanks!

Junior, I'm sorry you encountered that man, but don't let a year-and-a-half's worth of positive experience be undone by one loser.
 
Sad to say, I'm sure almost all of us -- whatever business we're in -- have lost revenue to dishonest and disrespectful clients. It happens no matter how hard you try, no matter how fair-minded and accommodating you are. The important thing is to never ever let those experiences compromise your own ethics or values. That loser has to live with being him. You can feel good about who you are.
 
It speaks well of you that you are grounded enough to vent and then, pretty quickly thereafter, post again and say, "I think I'm officially over it and officially going to sleep."
 
P.S. I'm glad there's another current thread in which you've been singled out for high praise. It's a nice offset to this bad experience to know that you are seriously appreciated. All the best to you!