coriolis888

Hi, I read your post again, particularly the sentence "a great way to act on this is for older gay men to value their contemporaries for their looks and stop chasing young kids and start chasing their contemporaries." Your statement does not mention psychology and social norms. I know there is a reason that most gays go after young guys just like I know there is a reason why straight guys go after young women. Fortunately, there are enough gays that like older "contemporaries" but most like younger guys. That is just the way it is.

Although your comment seems gracious, your comment leaves out the critical psychological aspect of physical attraction. We cannot control who we find attractive. Most of us have a "type" and if we are not physically attracted to "contemporaries" it is beyond our control. This is just part of being gay and human.

Good point about the old 2016 date. I had intended to furnish the current writing and link from the author. The link I presented was a former report that he referenced in his current report. Here is a link to the author's current report talking about a different couple falsely accused of sex trafficking: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/05/29/southwest-airlines-required-facebook-photos-before-allowing-mom-and-son-to-check-in/

This a just one example of how the supposed "new law" has made life difficult for many by falsely accusing them of sex trafficking. Here is an actual case: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2016/01/15/43897/ Edit - from the article: "Out of an abundance of caution, our employees are trained to report any activity that is out of the ordinary.”

Worse yet is that bigot and former two-term governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer , who left office in 2015. During the time she was in office, on her official state government page, her photo shown had been taken about thirty years earlier. When she gave interviews in public or on television, there was such a marked contrast to her appearance versus the photo on her site. Now that, is some heavy duty age shaving -

It is also gone in Austria https://vienna.craigslist.at/ update - Craigslist must be doing a major overhall - the personal ads are now gone from many other major cities in Europe for example: Europe amsterdam Berlin Brussels budapest cote d'azur dublin edinburgh florence copenhagen London Munich Oslo oxford Paris Prague Rome stockholm venice / veneto An end of an era -

Wednesday is ladies night - Read this article and see if you would want to go to Stock on ladies night: https://www.mtlblog.com/things-to-do-in-mtl/montreals-magic-mike-bar-every-girl-needs-to-go-to-for-their-next-girls-night-out

You sign a release with the agency in order for your DNA to be tested by them. Does it really matter if your information is kept private? Is there anymore privacy left in the world? Not very much -

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/24/health/penis-scrotum-transplant-surgery-hopkins/index.html

The poster did not say "bi" he said "straight" He said he would be competing in a bar with "straight clients" " - - lot of straight clients - - " Bi has nothing to do with his claim. Therefore, the posters claim is optimistic (unrealistic), at best

Wrong! The location of the server makes no difference if it gets blocked to U.S. users or providers. Thus, for U.S. users, rentmen will "go down" for all practical purposes -

Welcome to the ever enlarging list of fun gay places that have shut their doors. Most people blame the bar closures on the internet. However, there are many reasons gay places close. Now that the internet in the U.S. (and some other countries) ban ads promoting prostitution, it might be that the bars will revive again. After all, guys will be guys, one way or another. It would take a lot of "getting used to" going to or returning to bars to meet escorts but it is possible although not totally likely. Just think of countless bars and dance bars and lap dance bars that have closed. Not a pretty picture, by any means.

There will? With the bizarre changes in the law regarding prostitution, can you tell me how new or even better escort sites can or will be formed? Just hoping to be as optimistic as you.

Realistically? Zero - Possibly, maybe = only if escorts want to create a worse situation and a depression in the industry. Having advertising severely curtailed by the new absurd law, the last thing an escort should do is raise rates at this crisis time.

Sorry, I do not see a posting reference for the "Did this people just crawled out of Backpage?" Can you let us know what you mean and post a reference? Thanks

Hi, the first link you provided ( https://rent.men/ChrisFox ) does, indeed, list the escorts rates (which are quite low). However, the ad has some major issues. For example, the ad says the escort is age 69 yet the photos in the ad are of a man in his middle thirties or so. My question is if the photos do not blend with the information in the ad, what else is wrong with the ad! Either the photos are very old or there is a type error in the age of the escort.

About a couple of weeks ago I accessed f4f. Within a couple of minutes of my accessing f4f, I received an unrelated phone call which I answered. I forgot to close the f4f site during my long unrelated phone call. After my phone call was completed, I returned to my computer and found a large add on my computer page telling me that I had a "time out" saying that I had used up all my free browsing time with f4f. The timeout lasted about one week. It is not there anymore and has not come backl. While the time out lasted, the message continued to tell me to sign up for a f4f account. Maybe you have a free account and used it "too much" according to f4f. Just a thought and a possibility.

" - - lot of straight clients - - " Straight! How can this be?

The first link gets no response. Maybe business is so good from prior clients the escorts do not bother to response to inquiries from new clients

I did not get any response to the escort ad. The second link is to an ad. I think that there are so few escorts available in Vienna they do not last long before they are snatched up as soon as they post their availability. It is a ghost town for escorts.

Thanks again. I just looked and noticed that flirt4free here does have guys that look like they are in Budapest or Bratislava. I know zero Hungarian or Slavik but I know German. The couple of guys I tried to chat with on flirt4free did not understand German or English. I did not spend much time with them. As to hustler bars in Germany, there are several in Berlin. However, the drug scene is too heavy for me to even bother to visit the German hustler places. As is said here In Austria (and in Germany) with respect to the current escort scene - wie enttäuschend (how disappointing).

I am still in Vienna. I visit here at least a couple of times each year. I am not aware of any rentboy bars in or around Vienna. There used to be many hustlers in Stadt Park and at one of the nearby U-Bahn stations. However, those places seem to have gone the way of history. Over the past ten days, there was no one hustling in the park (that I could tell) except for gypsies and druggies, when I went there several times. At the U-bahn station there were only dirty and awful looking druggies. Yuk. Do you know the names of any rentboy bars in Vienna? Also, Kaiserbrundl sauna (a formerly beautiful sauna) has also gone to the dogs the past couple of years. My goodness, with the U.S. ads for escorts heavily edited or closed down for ads, plus Vienna markedly decayed, what are we to do?

Just thought I would give an update about the ads placed by escorts for Vienna, Austria. In a word - terrible! Although there may be more than 500 escorts listed for Vienna (or Wien), most of the listings are well dated and/or the escort has not checked his ad for a year or more. Of the several ads that are available through hunqs.com or rentmen.eu, many (of the ones I checked) are using bogus photos or stats. Therefore, given the "adjusted" number of escorts for Vienna ( from "more than 500"), there might be as many as twenty-five actively advertising. It is possible that my internet search skills are deficient for searching Viennese escorts but a travel companion is having the same dismal results. One interesting observation I saw was that some of the same escorts advertise both on rentmen and on hunqz. The prices quoted on rentmen are generally about one hundred euros more than on hunqz, even though the same photos and stats are used. Many of the Austrian escort ads quote a price. It appears that the U.S. lunacy has not yet made its way to the Austrian internet concerning the censoring of free speech and/or including prices in escort ads.

Thanks for the data about guys from Prague. However, the fact that Paragonya is no longer a nice place to meet guys, has nothing to do with the Brazilians. The Brazilians are probably the few good saving points about Paragonya sauna. It is the thieving Romanians and the heavy drugs found in the sauna that caused the place to become (as you said) sleazy.

Along with the closure of the wonderful hustler bar - Carousel - the escort scene in Zurich (especially at the gay sauna Paragonya) went to the dogs. I used to visit Zurich for fun and had no problem meeting excellent escorts. However, the dishonest and aggressive Romanians plus drugs have made Zurich an unpleasant place to expect to find escorts. Now I visit only for banking and for a connecting flight to somewhere other than Zurich. Zurich MIGHT be good for the few escorts that score an occasional client but most escorts do not last long in Zurich. The escort rates are unrealistically high and the quality of escort is generally low.