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Do you have a newer Android phone? If so, do the three-finger swipe and you will have screen shot. That is one way to get around the blocking.

The above proposed 'letter' is a reasonable response to the escort letter ( https://m4m-forum.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/ ) that advises escorts to markedly increase their already high rates. Hilariously, included in the above cited thread (advising escorts to raise their rates), is the suggestion that clients get a second job to pay the recommended higher fees to pay escorts. This rebuttal letter is a job well done.

The article you cited quoted a U.S. Senator Heidi Heitkamp as saying "Today, Backpage was shutdown. It's a huge step. Now no child will be sold for sex through this website" What was that woman senator smoking or is she just out of her mind? I have read backpage, craigslist, rentmen and similar type ads for years. I have never ever seen a child for sale for sex or for any other reason. Therefore, to close a website then falsely claim it was promoting child sex is more than false and misleading. It is just a big fat lie. The sad part of the closure is it was closed for a false reason and people in authority continue with false accusations. Does anyone wonder why?

Thanks for clarifying that you do not recommend that escorts charge 25% increases for existing clients. Yes, there will be fewer readers. That is simple logic and arithmetic. Already, there are fewer readers. Several escort sites have closed down. That already means fewer readers. Furthermore, many clients who formerly met escorts from those now closed sites do not know how to find where escorts are currently advertising. You mentioned there will be more traffic on rentmen - Have you not noticed that the ads on rentmen have been markedly edited by rentmen to a point where there are no prices allowed and certain marketing language in an ad is restricted. There is also discussion about rentmen being blocked soon within the U.S. If that occurs, where will escorts go to find clients? If rentmen is blocked, not all clients will bother to get a VPN to access rentmen, a site that has already been stripped of a lot of useful information about escorts. I hope you are correct in your assertions. It would be nice if your predictions comes true. I have my doubts.

Not many people get a 25% to 30% raise. I would think since escort advertising is in jeopardy, there will be fewer clients reading the fewer ads that will be able to get to the market place. To increase escorts rates at this time, as you propose, could cause more harm than good. Also, escorts with "regulars" might lose those regulars if the escort suddenly decides to charge an extra hundred dollars, as you advise. Clients and escorts will have to wait and see what happens after the shock settles in. Fewer ads equal fewer readers, equals fewer clients. Raising the escort fee twenty-five or thirty percent could be a downfall for many escorts. But, as you wrote, you "know first hand these methods work."

As we know, this thread is titled "Another SESTA/FOSTA casualty." I find it alarming (and disappointing) that another site was shuttered because of bigotry in our laws. I noticed that no advance warning was given when various sites were shut down or severely limited with respect to posting anything in connection with escorts et cetera. There is a lot of discussion about other sites being shuttered. I want those whose posts I read and those who "liked" many of the things I posted here, to know that I truly found many interesting and helpful people on this forum. If this site disappears, we have no way to contact other posters to express our appreciation. We forum users are part of a unique group that brought together (and continues to bring) much entertainment and information about a certain hobby that many of us share. This message is an advance "thank you" - - - - just in case.

Yes, but the dear leader does not have to look in advertisements for his jollies. Hypocrisy - galore -

Rentmen already has that rule. However, any fake identification will work with rentmen because they do not confirm identification. There are threads on this forum discussing the misleading belief that rentmen wants to convey in connection with "verifying" identification. The verification is merely looking at any identification copied and attached and sent to rentmen by the person placing the ad. The identification can be fake or genuine but rentmen notes in the ad that identification was verified. That half-ass way of verifying is worse than trying to clap with one hand.

CBS is reporting a similar story only with a little more detail - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-seize-classified-ad-site-backpage-com-over-sex-trafficking-ads/ By the way, with the passage of the new laws, how is it that our country has not changed its name to the United States of Puritanical? Sad days ahead. Count on it.

Hi, even though you answered and talked to a few guys from the ads, have you actually met anyone who has ads there?

There are numerous threads on this forum that discuss escort ads that do and do not display a price in the ad. Some forum users stated that having a price listed, or not listed, made little difference whether they would contact the escort in the ad. However, MANY, (including me), stated that when an ad omits a price, they merely skipped over the ad and then went to the next ad. Realizing and accepting the fact that all escort ads on rentmen will eventually omit prices, I cannot help but wonder how many clients will keep their stance on not calling an escort with a price not listed in an ad. It will be a learning experience for clients to accept the fact that there will be no more prices displayed. A client will have to get over their inhibition over calling an escort for a price. Or, will they? Offering an analogous scenario, an ad without a price it tantamount to going to a restaurant and having to call the waiter over to ask the price of items on the menu. It seems like such a waste of time and can be very awkward. With an escort, it would be even more awkward. With future rentmen ads omitting prices, there will still be those of us who will not call an escort merely to ask a price. There will have to be something very compelling in the ad to motivate a call by those of us who do not respond to ads while a price is not shown. If an escort is paying rentmen the same price to advertise but is getting less service (no prices posted), the escort probably should get a discount on the price of future ads. This is because the escort could very well be losing revenue from clients who will not call because the price is not included in the ad, by no choice of the escort. The above is just my observation and opinion. I realize there are those who staunchly feel that an ad does not need to contain a price. Reasonable people can and do disagree.

Excellent choice -

One of his most famous quotes: Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly. "May have been gay." See this: Arnold Rampersad, Hughes’ principal biographer, wrote: “Hughes found some young men, especially dark-skinned men, appealing and sexually fascinating. (Both in his various artistic representations, in fiction especially…) Virile young men of very dark complexion fascinated him.” While in his early sixties, Hughes seemed to fall in love with singer Gilbert Price (1942-1991). Unpublished love poems by Hughes were addressed to a man he called “Beauty.” Hughes’ traveling companion in the Caribbean, Zell Ingram, was gay but Hughes disguised him as a heterosexual in his first autobiography. Hughes’ poem “To F.S.” is thought to be about Ferdinand Smith (1893-1961), a sailor from Jamaica whom he met in the 1920s and kept in touch with for over thirty years.

Here is a link to Hunqz - Barcelona http://www.planetromeo.com/#/hunqz/barcelona

You can if you move to London, in the U.K. I realize that is a major step but if you really want to work in a brothel, London is your answer. The "brothel" in London is called Villa Gianni - I have been there many times over the years. Only once was I disappointed with a selection. Most times there are many handsome guys available. Don't bother to check the website for the place. The web site is lacking information. It is word of mouth that is their best advertisement. Here is an active forum thread that discusses some relatively recent visits to the London "brothel" known as Villa Gianni. https://m4m-forum.org/threads/villa-gianni.130933/ EDIT - I had not read this entire thread before I made the above post. I had not seen that Villa Gianni was already discussed above. Although the place could be "illegal", I was not aware of that possibility. I have been there many times and never had an issue or a hint that the place could be illegal.

He does not have to sign the bill. In three more days, the bill becomes law. "Alternately, the President can sit on the bill, taking no action on it at all. If the President takes no action at all, and ten days passes (not including Sundays), the bill becomes law without the President's signature. However, if the Congress has adjourned before the ten days passes and without a Presidential signature, the bill fails. This is known as a pocket veto."

When are the phone numbers supposed to be removed from the rentmen ads? I just checked some guys I know and their correct phone numbers are still in their ad.

Thanks for the response. However, those who are able to read an ad and hire from that ad, do you think an hourly rate shown in the ad changes the meaning or intent of the ad? Think of all the unnecessary calls the escort will get just to answer a simple question. Furthermore, many readers of escort ads do not respond to ads that do not include a rate. Puzzling, indeed.

Neither will many clients like it - I really don't understand why the fuss about prices being shown in an ad - what is wrong with including a price? If we went to a grocery store and had to ask a clerk what each item cost, the store would have to hire extra personnel just to answer a question that is so simple to post in the ad. Yes, I know, this subject has been discussed countless times. Nonetheless, I do not understand why prices are removed if the escort chooses to include a price in his ad.

Hi, I like the photos for this escort who is currently in Vienna, Austria. I will be travelling to that city soon. Even though I like the photos, there are many inconsistencies in his ad. He has whatsapp on his phone but the whatsapp number is a Vienna number, which is unusual for a person from South America. In part of his ad he refers to himself as a Brazilian but does not include that language in his ad. He also refers to himself as Italian and Spanish. There are other inconsistencies in his ad. His rate seems low for Austria. The most unusual part of his ad is that he says he is circumcised. I have not seen a Brazilian, an Italian or Spaniard who is circumcised - ever. Question - are the inconsistencies in his ad too many to bother with this escort? Any one have experience with him? https://www.planetromeo.com/#/hunq/Hot-Latino29

Please all and you please none.

I found the gay bars in Vienna very disappointing (sehr enttäuschend). Ever since Kaiserbrundl declined, the bar scene declined as well. Traveling to Vienna to have fun - - it seems the only remaining availability of escorts is through on-line or, if you are adventuresome, along the paths in the Stadt Park.

I know about Zurich's Paragonya which used to be a great place to meet escorts. That place, since Carousel closed, has gone to the dogs, for the most part. I am not aware of any scene in Vienna other than along the banks of the "river" in the Stadt Park. Is there a "scene" in Vienna to meet guys except through the internet? Kaiserbrundl (a gay sauna) has turned into a losing situation. It used to be a good source of escorts, but no more. https://www.wien.info/en/locations/kaiserbruendl I visit Vienna fairly often. Do you have any suggestions where to meet escorts (again, except through the internet or apps)? Thanks in advance

You already gave him a deposit to visit you and he has not given you the necessary information for you to purchase an air ticket for him. At the same time, you said he sends a text to you every couple of days but continues to omit the critical information requested by you (and required by all airlines for you to buy his airplane ticket) - the date of birth of a traveler. After three times of your asking for his birth date, and considering he has already received money from you in advance, I suspect that you will not be seeing this guy. There is something askew in this guy's responses that indicate he is not serious about catching a plane to visit with you. On the other hand, maybe he just lacks communication skills and you need to remind him about his date of birth a fourth time. There are countless threads and posts on this forum relative to giving unknown escorts money in advance. I wish you luck in sorting out getting the escort to your city.

In the U.S. that behavior (turning away a patient for being a few minutes late for an appointment) is classified as a medical error even though the patient was not seen by the doctor. How about the below cited article for the THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE U.S. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html