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Went to Thermas recently, and here's how it went down for me... I went there around 8PM on a Tuesday night. There were about 11 rent boys as I was told at the entrance. When I got there, I was looking for bottom boys. Apparently, all that were left were tops. There was one guy who was versatile but he wasn't my type. One of the escorts told me that if I want bottom boys, the time frame for them is from 3PM to 7PM during weekdays. Despite being open 24 hours a day, the availability of bottom boys is limited to 4 hours on a weekday. I guess, the the demand for bottoms is low outside those hours. This leads me to believe that 99% of you who have been harping about Thermas here are bottoms. Anyway, I wasn't too hurt by not finding a bottom that night, and I left without fucking anyone. Barcelona has a bunch of cruising clubs and saunas, and my needs and wants are thoroughly met. I'm still in Barcelona right now, but I may not pursue Thermas further during this trip because the saunas and cruise clubs here have been awesome for me! Muchas gracias España!

Great to hear Madrid came through for you on your 3rd try! I feel you about "chemistry" and "felt being forced". That's the problem with hiring someone because for them "it's a job". And I'm sure if they were given the choice, they'd want to take the money and not do the sex/romance part. That's why I've been going to saunas and cruising clubs while in Europe because I know that the guys who I end up having sex with at least wanted me for who I am and not because I paid them. Of course, my tune will change for sure if I were in a city where there are no saunas and cruising clubs, and would have to resort to paid guys. Sorry about your experience in Sauna Beach. I am not aware about escorts at Sauna Beach. But as I mentioned, It is Sauna Gran Via that is known to have escorts. If you google search "Sauna Gran Via Madrid", you'll see a bunch of reviews from other people.

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The guys at Gran Via charge supposedly 50 euros. Get yourself a threesome or foursome there. 😜

Forgot to add .. the muscle guys that showed up for the porn show had almost identical builds to those links you posted. I bet they're roided too. However, I am not sure if they always hire that type of guys every Friday.

And If you want a bar atmosphere that has a sex maze dark rooms, checkout boy berry. It's a cruising bar. A similar to that but with a club atmosphere instead is Strong Club. The dark areas of these blow my mind. It's a sight to see, especially Strong. Albeit, Strong is for the younger crowd like West Hollywood.

Went to SaunaBeach recently on a Friday night for 18 euros, and got there at 11PM. I'm not sure if it was a one off for a Friday night, but I'd say it wasn't the peak time—and from what I was told it's because everyone had just finished their dinners in Spain (yes, it's that late) and would be clubbing (clubs open at 11PM), and more than likely, patrons would trickle in after clubbing (around 4AMish). I got by not knowing Spanish. One thing that was awesome that Friday night, was they had a "porn performance" from 2:30AM to 3AM (technically Saturday), which made me stay longer. It was great peformance. Two muscled guys in jock strap made out and did stuff in front of the audience. Then 10 minutes later, they interacted with the audience. They literally fucked a couple of the audiences, and the audience would touch and suck them. Audiences are pretty much like your average older joes (albeit, average joes in Europe are better looking than American joes). I'm a top, and unfortunately neither of them were bottoms that night. One got to suck me though. I did suck him and ate his ass out—yes, in front of everyone. Lol. No shame. Oh, and the porn performers did not have the money shot (ie, cum shot). They literally bounced once it hit 3AM. And if you're looking for Gay Sauna with paid escorts onsite in Madrid, check out Gran Via Sauna. This is what I was told, but I'm not sure 100% because I never went. I didn't go to Gran Via because I was getting plenty of action at regular saunas—plus, I enjoy the thrill that the guy I'd be fucking is not paid. Have fun in Madrid!

Do you meet them at the sauna (ie, a pre-agreed location)? Or were they already in the sauna as part of their work (eg, like Thermas)?

Were they having fun on their own, or was this more of a paid side gig?

We got a weiner!

And I'm not talking about "providers" because men who usually pursue this profession already know they have the tool that help them standout. I'm talking about guys you've met via apps, bars, or saunas.

Would they call you out if you look at them nude? Also, is this beach specifically a gay beach? I'm not seeing any female in that pic.

This is what I read on the internet, but am hoping someone can corroborate: "US law says if a server’s wage and tips don’t equal minimum wage, the employer must pay the difference. They only make that wage if wage plus tips meets or exceeds minimum wage."

Following. I hope someone recommends something like a spa, sauna, bathhouse, or sex club

as the old saying goes: "When in Rome..."

Thanks for sharing. Never been to indonesia, something to keep in mind for sure.

We've read enough. The overall context of all of your posts in this thread paints a good picture of your view. Your definition of a "small eatery" says a lot. Have a good day mate.

I just edited my response, so it can match your edits.

1) I had look up the definition of your chosen term, so I do not confuse it with other political terms: "An indentured servant refers to an individual who entered into a labor contract, known as an indenture, typically for a specified period, in exchange for transportation, food, lodging, and other necessities. This practice was prevalent during colonial times and into the early years of American history, particularly during the 17th and 18th centuries." I don't think escorts are like that because you're not in a labor contract, which is known as indenture. Like I said above, the escort-client relationship is a business relationship similar to a barber-customer relationship. Either party (whether client or provider) can have requests/demands. And if the other party is not willing to to meet these demand/requests, they should take their business elsewhere. 2) It is not a standard business, but it is still a business because there's money involved. One definition of business is exchanged of goods (eg, money) for services (eg., sex). I guess, you can call it sex business. I understand that there's intimacy involved in escorting because you're literally emotionally trusting someone to put their cock in you (or vice versa). However, escorting is not the only business that involves "intimacy". Have you seen someone go surgery? The patient has to literally trust the surgeon and anesthesiology to the fullest because the patient will be put to sleep and then receive incisions. It can't be anymore "intimate" than that. And guess what? Surgery is still a business when it's all said and done. 3) If my son is an escort and he's not comfortable performing the requirements of the client, I will tell my son to find other customers that are a better match for what my son has to offer. It's a free market.

Your username wins. We can't get any European than you.

I concur with your comment. I visited both countries you mentioned two months ago. In the Philippines, no one turned down my tips and they were very appreciative—even at "eateries" (which our friend above calls them); I believe these places in the Philippines are called Carinderias. When I was in Japan, it was a different story. My tips were turned down.

It's both. There are far many restaurants in other countries that do not operate as chains or franchises like we see in the USA; hence, a restaurant is usually owned by a family. So if you tip the waiter, you're basically tipping a family member or a friend of the family working as the waiter. I guess, what our friend above calls "eatery" is better described as like family-owned restaurants. Nonetheless, family-owned restaurants in the US will never turn down tips. Nonetheless, I do see your point. Had it had been a chain/franchise brand restaurant (especially global American brand), it would be a totally different story. However, the point was not about big vs small brand, bur rather a point against the claim that Europe welcomes tips. As they say, when in Rome....

And yet your statement "And it's Asia where tips can be seen as offensive, not Europe" was fine to use as if it was an accurate ideology? Do you see the error in that statement? Also, I was just in the Asia two months ago (see my post history), and I concur with @BSR's comment above. It's mainly Japan that's against tip, while the poor third-world Asian countries (eg, Philippines) would love to have tips. In fact, when I was in the Philippines, no one turned down the tips I gave—not even any small "eatery" (and I always pursue eating at these small hole-in-the wall restaurants because I've found them to be the most authentic).

I just had dinner at a restaurant in Lisbon Portugal (Europe) tonight and the owner was demanding that the customer take back his tips. She was rather pissed that the customer gave her a tip. She serves good food and has great Yelp reviews; you should try it. Her restaurant's name is: Frangasqueira Nacional. Check it out on Yelp to see her glowing reviews (puts any RM review to shame). And if you don't believe me that she would feel insulted at tips, try even leaving one Euro and you'll hear her go off at you. (saw it first hand tonight. I love Europe and its non-reliance to tipping culture.)