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Last time I saw one of them (forgot which one) I got a HE. Someone else on this board said they might be open to having their torso licked? But I think oral is out of the question no matter what for either of them.

Anyone try him? Pics look real and hot. And seems he does erotic. https://www.massagem4m.com/masseur/18583/ Also posting everyday on Craigslist: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/m4m/d/european-student-sensual/6382165756.html

Very nice kid. Tries hard and uses a table w/professional cream. Pictures accurate. Only does light Swedish massage, so nothing deep. But is playful and reasonably priced. If you like his look give him a try.

I agree and a lot of men get mad (calling them bitchy, shallow, etc.) at the "model gorgeous" guys for not being into them... but look at it from their perspective. At least there's money to sway a decent portion of them.

I'm curious what the open hostility was. Did they just turn you down or were they actively hostile and rude

Anyone try him? Wouldn't mind spending the upcharge if the massage and interaction is great.

What spa is known for outrageously hot guys?

He's Russian. Texted with him and he said $120 for therapeutic only. Mutual touch/HE is $100 more. So $220. Could be worth it if the massage and interaction is great. But wouldn't count on it.

Used to be "Brock." I don't think anyone's ever posted negative about him. He has a great body and face. And he works well with all types.

I'd say the ones where he looks young and unshaven are 7-8 years old. The ones with the beard are no more than 2-3 years old. He worked out of someone's private garage and had to meet clients on the street to discreetly let them in. I thought he gave a pretty good massage and was open to a lot. This was in his early days. maybe he got weird(er).

I agree, but that's how most people think, so it is what it is.

You might not be as good looking as you think. Or, maybe you are right about looking too "straight" as in too manly. A lot of gays want someone who is pretty, even if masculine. Like the boy next door look.

Some of the photos are old. I think he has facial hair now - those are the most accurate. I saw him several times years ago when he looked like the older photos. Before I met him the first time he flaked on me twice before finally... and actually had a great time. He was open to a lot and didn't give such a bad massage. Struck me as a little crazy though.

Same experience. A common situation I've found in boys with active social/party lives.

saw him a few times several years ago. he did do HE at the time. decent massage, nice enough guy. pics are accurate.

According to his instagram he has more facial and body hair now. Still hot. Anyone met him? He's very hard to schedule with. Eventually I did book an appointment and he was a complete no-show.

Now I'm confused. Both of them are in LA and have separate ads? There are separate phone numbers too. I think I've met both of them then. "Alex" was nicer, gave a slightly better massage and was nude. "Roman" wasn't bad but if they are the same price "Alex" is much preferred. Unless I saw the same guy twice and he just gave a different experience.

Gives an excellent deep tissue massage - better than 95% of the advertised guys give. But he is 100% therapeutic - not even sensual in the slightest bit (no brushes, lingering touches, etc.) He makes that clear. I may repeat, he is only slightly pricier than a normal therapeutic outcall, and it's nice to have a Abercrombie model surfer type giving the massage. I also appreciated getting a real massage that went a few minutes over - rather than have some Russian lightly tap his fingers and initiate a happy ending 20 minutes in.

I also recommend Daniel. Really good deep tissue massage, nice guy and professional. I wish his hair was its natural color though.

Have had several good to excellent massages on both apps. But no happy endings. Then again - there was nobody I wanted to give me a happy ending.

I had a few decent massages from him 5-6 years ago, and he was open to lots of extras. But... he's using the same photos now as he was then. I recall he got pretty beefy at one point. maybe he's lean again.

I agree those are likely his pics. Like you said he asks for $400, plus Uber fee. He also has a lot of limits which he is at least upfront with, so wasn't inclined to meet him.

You can't see my posts? Dutchmuch, yes, I would say that is about accurate. He's not particularly lean or ripped, but he is muscular with a good build. Some of the pictures show him as leaner than he really is (i.e., no visible six pack in real life)

The first and last picture are the most accurate. Very nice guy, from Russia, lives with his boyfriend March who is also a masseur on the site. Doesn't speak English well. Saw him 3 times - the first two times were great. Gave me a full 55 minutes and an above average therapeutic massage, with a strong sensual element. The third time he started "wrapping things up" about 35-40 minutes in, and as a result I haven't been back.

You're not alone. I don't get all the positive reviews these scammers have. They must have friends who write for them.