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  1. Can someone please try and contact this guy. There's no phone number, only his rentmen email and all my messages have gone without a response. All I asked for was to schedule a time to meet. So I'm very confused. lol Why pay for the ad if you won't even reply to requests.

  2. There's been a few instances lately where I've sent a massage on rentmen and gotten a reply and then my subsequent messages go not only without a reply but unread. It has happened three consecutive times within the last few weeks, so it begs to ask the question:

    Escorts on rentmen, do replies to original email show up in your inbox as new messages? Or do you get that many emails that it's hard to reply to them all? Do you even bother with reading them at all?

    I don't think I've been blocked since I can see all the profiles in question when I'm logged in.

    Is this a rentmen messaging issue, or something else?

     

    Thanks!

  3. Finally. I actually thought I was going crazy after I met with him and felt that he was either a different person or that the photos were a decade old. I even entertained the thought that a potential “real” Matheus may have been too busy and outsourced me to someone else. But yet he gets so many positive reviews everywhere.

     

    Glad to hear I’m not totally nuts.

     

    (And just to preempt any concerns, it was not just the photos that were false advertising, and yes, I did submit an official review)

     

    You're not nuts. In fact it was probably a rather normal reaction to some very "creative" advertising.

  4. Does it work? Any horror and/or success stories?

    I'm a very average looking guy and so far it's been lots of talk and not much else. It feels like the chances of getting lucky on there are equal to winning lottery?

  5. You can make little insinuations during sex, subtle things like "let me suck that (NAME OF COLLEGE) graduate's big dick", "you look so much better naked than in your mug shots", "Yeah, kiss me like you kissed you boyfriend in those Facebook pictures", "harder, harder like if you were pumping your credit report", etc

     

    +1

    Most definitely during. Please make sure you're not too subtle though. You don't want him to miss the point. @latbear4blk gives great examples. I also think mentioning his wife or girlfriend by her name is an excellent idea. Nicknames are even better.

  6. Information isn't necessarily aggregated as it is scattered. Google and other tools do the aggregation on the fly.

     

    The most common links I find are:

     

    Phone number:

    • The phone number may link to a directory giving name and address. Some of these directories managed to get ahold of the information provided to the cell provider when the phone was registered. Sometimes even a burn phone can carry some registration information. You aren't required to give a valid name in some instances. For example, when Rocco Steele first started escorting I was able to look up his real name and address by Googling his phone number from his first Rentboy ad. Now if I look up his current ad's phone number using a deeper directory search I only see this phone registered to "Rocco S".
    • Using the same phone number in business postings, or on personal posts or tweets, or classified ads can lead back to other personal information. An escort, for example, was selling a car on a social media group page. His phone number is in one of the responses, as is his real first name. He provided an address to an interested buyer. Even though his phone number itself didn't provide a search back to a directory with his name I was able to quickly turn up his first name and address. Searching on his address might turn up another piece of information. The car sale occurred years ago, but that information will still be available for quite some time.

     

    Pictures:

    • Some guys use the same "G" pictures on escort ads and personal social media profiles. Google Image Search will quickly expose their identities in this case. Even if a guy crops his head off of a good body shot the image search may turn up the uncropped picture.

     

    Profile names and email addresses:

    • If I used my Nvr2Thick handle as an email address that may also provide a link back to other social media posts where I provided an address. If I set up a gmail or yahoo address with that handle I may have provided my real first and last name when I registered. A search on that handle may pull up personal profile information, depending on how much the provider exposes and how well I've set my privacy settings.
    • If an escort provides an e-mail address it may provide another such link to relevant information if his handle on this site or on Rentmen is different.
    • If an escort is visiting Cleveland, for example, I might get on Adam4Adam or BarebackRT for Cleveland and stumble across (or aggressively search for) his escort and/or personal profiles. An escort may be advertising on one of those sites as Niner4Sale and cruising personally as HotBlkDaddy. A search on either of those handles may turn up a matching e-mail address or a profile with more personal information on another site.
    • Obviously it's not just escorts, but a lot of people have been using the same handles for decades now as an alter-ego or online identity. I hired my first escort in the mid-80's from an Advocate Classifieds ad. Quite a few years after he retired I found him in an AOL chat room. To this day his AOL handle is wired into his life. If I search that handle I find him on Facebook, Tumblr, all sorts of Craigslist ads, hundreds of personal pics on Photobucket...

    It may seem complicated, but often when I find someone I'm looking for (escort or not) it often takes a few short hops. Here are a few fictionalized examples:

     

    A Miami escort calling himself Hugo might have a good head and torso pic on his ad. I perform a Google Image Search and it turns up the same pic in a bodybuilding social media site profile for MaxBeastXMan. One of the comments under his progress pics says "Looking awesome buddy!" from a profile named "ArnoldWheatley". I look up Arnold Wheatley in Miami on Facebook, and scan his FB friends for a guy named Max, and I end up finding Max's personal profile and full name. That's probably five minutes of searching.

     

    A phone number search on a supposedly 28 year old LA escort turns up the name Martin Ramirez. There are hundreds of matches on that name in California, but one of the first five hits from a Google search on "Martin Ramirez" "Los Angeles" pulls up a list of MyLife or White Pages directory profiles including a 32 year old Martin Ramirez, along with a list of possible family members. One of the family members is a 56 year old named Xiomara Ramirez. There are only a handful of people with that name on Facebook, and only two in California. One of those Xiomaras turns out to be his mom, and turns up the link to his profile. Five to ten minutes of simple mouse clicks.

     

    A phone number search on an escort exposes a comment made on a post on someone's Tumblr. The owner of the Tumblr, ThickRickyPHX may or may not be important. The comment just says "Where u been Ricky - give me a call xxx-xxx-xxxx" from @MarcDaDJspins. A search on MarcDaDJspins turns up a crap ton of ads for Marc's performances as a DJ all over the Phoenix area, including his Instagram, his full name, his girlfriend's name... Ten minutes, maybe more if he's got some hot pictures on his Instagram.

     

    Most of this doesn't require that you're "technically adept". When you Google something, you often just need to know which of the search results are worthwhile for the second Google search. The wordiness of my explanation may make this sound more technical than it actually is.

     

    Every escort should read this. Please. Come to think of it every client too. We all need to be responsible and take precautions to protect ourselves.

  7. @latbear4blk when I said everyone I meant not just in the escorting world. Why do bosses always want to befriend you on FB? I've seen people at the office snooping at each other instagrams and twitters and starting gossip where there's none. We can refrain from it, but to neglect that it's out there is kind of pointless. It doesn't matter if it's 100% or 50% or 10% of guys that do it, but it's being done. And I'm not talking about major investigating skills but a simple image search. We've also heard numerous times of escorts googling up client's phone numbers and addresses. I could say that it's wrong and not to do it, but I think it's more important to be aware that it can be done.

     

    I've googled guys in the past, mostly new guys, to see if they're legit or real. It wasn't to find out about their personal life but if I did stumble upon it I would let them know. It happened twice with the guys I haven't hired and they were grateful. There was also a guy I saw a few times and then I stumbled upon one of his social media accounts. And I did let him know, too, and he was still willing to see me afterwards, although I knew there was a risk that he might not. This is just my perspective and what I have done in a similar situation to OP's. It doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do, but it is the option I chose in the past. And I do feel that if my photo was circulating out there with my personal information attached to it I would want to know.

  8. I'm going to offer a somewhat different perspective.

    Everyone googles everyone. Not just escorts and clients, but co-workers, bosses, childhood friends, neighbors, in-laws etc. Whether that makes them stalkers or not is not the point. Everyone does it. So please if you're an escort who cares about hiding his real identity don't post the same photos in your profile that you post in your other social media accounts. If you do people will find out. And it's not only clients. A lot more people look at those sites than the guys who actually hire, and they all are vey capable of doing a simple image search. Welcome to the electronic age. Once you put your picture out there it's in public domain. So choose wisely! It's in your control until you put it out there.

     

    Now as for the OP, I think you should tell him and here's why. He's either aware of it and won't care or he is not and will be grateful that you've told him. The worst case scenario is that he doesn't want to see you again, but at least he'll be aware that his own privacy is easily compromised.

    12 hours is a long time and if you accidently divulge something, it will definitely make you look like a stalker, not to mention that it would almost guarantee that he doesn't want to see you again. Plus will you be able to relax and have a good time while constantly being cautious of everything you say?

    Option three - if you do go through with it and don't say anything, then he continues to live under a pretense that he's identity is well guarded when in fact everyone in the world can easily figure it out.

     

    For me personally knowing an escorts real name makes me very uncomfortable and regardless of if I've hired him previously or not I will tell him. If that makes me a stalker so be it. I know I'm in minority but it's just my two cents.

     

    Finally we often see this question but we rarely hear from the escorts. So here it is guys: If someone found out your real name would you want them to tell you?

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