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It's upstairs, tucked away near a corner. It's just a dark area with some sturdy lounge chairs. I see clients and providers napping there undisturbed. I even took a 20 minute nap in an unoccupied private room after getting hit with bad jet lag.

Visited last week. Definitely more Europeans, including some Romanians and Turks that surprisingly weren't sketchy. Barcelona has a much lower floor when it comes to quality of guys, but they both have the same ceiling. David, my favorite from Barcelona was there. He said business is way down in Barcelona (I literally hired him at Thermas last month). The facilities in Zurich are much nicer, and there is a nice nap area. But if you're visiting either city mainly to visit the saunas a few times, I agree with everyone here that Barcelona gives you more bang for your buck (pun intended).

Has anyone visited recently? I've never been to Zurich this time of year and was thinking of going next week. Was wondering if early afternoons are still best and what days are peak.

Yeah I've always used it interchangeably with "trade"

My first time ever at a strip club was at Remington's and a dancer tried to pull this shit on me and then had the gall to ask for a tip after, lol. I was a nervous kid but I told him to get a manager and he backed down. Also, I heard of one guy say the prices were in USD and pressured my friend to exchange rate his money, lol. I think the best tactic is to tell them exactly how many songs you want, they tell you when it starts, and they have to stop when it's over.

If he's sitting with you and it's wanted, and you are actively feeling him up, I'd think 100 pesos is good for ten minutes (that's $5 USD). Otherwise get rid of him with a couple of 20's, while you clearly say "not thanks," because they ignore obvious body language. Shower show at Wet Dreamz is 20 pesos for me, or $1 USD. They will come to you every 5 minutes and will drain your wallet. $500 pesos for a standard nude lap dance with touching and jerking for 10 minutes, plus the entry fee seems reasonable. That's going to be about $50 USD. If you go further and have oral, double that imo.

Yeah I’d probably say there were 3 guys each time I’d visit that were both good looking and good at sex. Definitely a major dip. And the number of guys that I wouldn’t have sex for free with definitely increased. I was shocked that I was approached by this poorly groomed, potbellied older fellow with really bad posture that turned out not to be a client. With that said, everyone will find at least one or two attractive guys at their visit that will offer cheap, good sex. So it’s absolutely still worth visiting

Still 50E and he let me drop my load in his ass. He has a friend named Francisco from Argentina, more of a pocket twink, But just as eager and energetic. Charged double for bareback though. Stayed at the B Hotel. Right next to the train station and mall with fast food and a grocery store. Maybe a 5 minute walk to the sauna at most, and rooms are inexpensive and huge by European standards.

I’ll look for him for sure today. On my first day I went with this Venezuelan twink, who was decent, and then David, the native Barcelonan. Normally I don’t guy for guys with a lot of random tattoos but this guy was to handsome and his ass was incredible. Best sex I’ve had in a year

Thanks for the update, super useful. I’m flying in tomorrow morning and was worried the off season would be a complete bust

Welp, this sucks. Johnson's was famous for dancers being honest and straightforward with their rates... no surprises or scams.

I think there's a misunderstanding. I'm not blaming Matt. I'm blaming the community for putting him in the position where he had no choice but to sell. Those are the dots I'm connecting, and that's solid arithmetic. The woke activists aren't meant to be a cover for the shitty business practices going on now, but the dominoes started falling with them. No one can deny that we wouldn't be in this position had it not been for them. They pressured him to sell. He sold. Now the businesses are being run to the ground.

Look man, if you want to argue there should be a space for certain types of dancers, that's one thing. But I was discussing the fact that running a strip club with a specific type is the prerogative of the owner and there should not have been this character assassination for running his business the way he saw fit. He was literally canceled by factions of our community, and we're at a loss because of it.

It ABSOLUTELY was our community's doing. Originally he was planning on expansions to Chicago, then a couple of other locations. When he rejected the dancer I mentioned, he went to an activist, who went to a local news org, who all then went to a neighborhood planning committee meeting to pressure the planners to reject the club with the owner/coinvestor present. He immediately walked back the plans with Matt and wedged him out of the entire city. They even brought in a former Florida community commerce activist to testify against his business practices and warn the committee against approving the club. They made all sorts of wild accusations and hyper-political claims. I know. I was there. And I was part of the private discussions where the committee agreed that his presence was political dynamite and it was an election year. So yes, this was our community being overly woke and killing a much needed institution. That's my firsthand experience, If you've got firsthand experience proving otherwise, please share. He got boxed out and his reputation took a nosedive. He didn't like being under the microscope. He had no choice but to sell.

Are they doing a New Years Eve party this year?