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Fun fact...he used to be in London and we were chatting on Grindr...he was across the street from me...and alas, it was too late and I had been edging for way too long, so I suggested we meet the next day and then he blocked me. I love knowing I came so close to having fun with him but I hate knowing I came so close to having fun with him. I guess one day we'll find each other again on the apps...lol

For sure it kills the vibe unless the vibe is specifically to have sex with the person, which, in that case, means hire an escort. I agree that the assumption is problematic but I still think the prohibitive pricing is the real issue here. No one is saving lives in a massage and that people are able to charge ridiculous prices and that people are actually paying them is completely outlandish to me. Even if I had that kind of income, there's no way I'm paying someone $300-500 for an hour massage. I agree as well, communication is key especially if you are specifically out for a different experience. Which is why I would prefer that prices would drop back to something normal and then IF someone asks about it, the masseur can decide how high up he wants his pricing to go, or advertise those prices up-front, however discretely he chooses (ie. Erotic massage)

They would do what they've been doing...hiring someone to fuck them. But that wasn't the point of my comment...it was about the pricing in general. Because there is a big difference between: Masseur charges $80/hour for a normal massage and you leave the rest up to fate and the moment, and someone charging $200-300 for an hour and everyone is assuming that these are escort prices but that's what they're charging everyone and you might or might not get an escort experience. The issue is the pricing, not whose buying.

Thanks for explaining that. Well, I know the #s are flagged but I didn't ever see that they flagged it in actual conversations. I've seen it in guys' profiles and I think I express my interest in it in mine but it's not something they allow to be searchable, which is annoying.

That's my thought and experience exactly. So many have resulted in rather surprising ways without any real prior expectation. A few where I might have been hopeful ended up being really great massages but nothing more. At least in that case, I've still gotten something for my money. I also don't find paying for sex all that interesting. I can and do get plenty of great sex with willing partners for free, so why pay for it? At most I have considered that if the stars align in the right way I might consider it with a favorite pornstar just to finally fulfill that fantasy...but it hasn't happened yet.

Sniffies is definitely a weird one. The only scams I've come across aside from the occasional spammy message which I report and block are seeing same guy popping up in multiple places and demanding his OF to be followed. The sad thing is that where I am currently the scam guy is exactly my type and what is always missing in this area (truly hot, hung uncut, but I digress). I've reported them as well...not sure how they can appear in multiple geographic locations, so it must be multiple accounts with the same crop of photos and general profile info. I haven't had too much success with it because guys come and go too quickly, and since it's web-based most people (myself included) are doing other things on their phones at the same time, like Grindr and Scruff (in my case). It's not the best interface for keeping contact with someone...yeah, I've pinned profiles and messages...but if the other guy chooses to delete the thread for any reason you've also lost all the info. I mean, I check it out, because why not? There are definitely a lot of hot guys there but as with any of the apps, you need to be cautious and if it seems way too good to be true it probably is. The gen/g3n thing is new to me. What exactly is that supposed to mean and why is it flagged? As a sidenote...I hate that Grindr and Scruff don't allow #massage #massaging because sometimes people ARE into MT without it being transactional.

Amazing. I have to say, I was never really a multiple cummer the way my bf is...but I discovered some years ago that with the right feeling and level of friction, I could cum twice in a row while fucking. It happened now and again and usually to the pleasant surprise of the bottom. But now, lately, I've been discovering it happening more frequently even when I'm masturbating...to the point that just last night I actually managed to have 5 orgasms in a row. That's the most I've ever managed and even I was ridiculously shocked by it. All I know is...I'm going to keep practicing! haha

My boyfriend always bursts out into laughter when he orgasms...which is, well, cute although not necessarily sexy...and he's a fortunate type that can get aroused again quickly and cum just as much the second time as the first...so he laughs a lot.

I'm not sure a "price list" is really all that useful, but a listed base price for any style of massage would be helpful if mandatory by hosting sites. I guess MF requires it but RM and Rent.Men do not seem to make it obligatory. Personally, I'm not interested in paying for sex. If something sexual happens I assume it's because there is a mutual desire to in the moment. That has always been my experience. Only once did a masseur tag on a HE fee which was ridiculous since I had explicitly stated before the appointment that I wasn't into those...so when things came up at the end I naturally assumed it was our chemistry that did it, and was shocked when he asked to be compensated for it. Not acceptable, IMHO. However, my real issue is that prices have gone absurdly high in most places. There are still some areas where one can get a real, fantastic, legit therapeutic massage for 50-60Eur...and then, if there is a mutual attraction and desire, have at! My longtime go-to guy in Paris eventually was charging me just 70Eur for massages that would run between 90-120 minutes. No, we never ever got sexual, it was never discussed, it never happened by chance, and I never expected it to. I had also understood that he had stopped offering any sort of "extra" in his massages shortly after I started collaborating with him. Yes, I was extremely lucky to have a more than competent and so generous masseur. I'm sad he's moved to a remote part of France. I began using massage as a way to deal with increased muscular tension from travel and exercise instead of always going to chiropractors/osteopaths/kinesiologists, et al. for $/EUR150-200 a session. As much as I love all that body work, it's almost never covered by any insurance and is a steep out of pocket expense. I was working for an extended period in Berlin (2019), and I was having 2 massages per week with all different masseurs who were all charging between 50-75 Eur a session. They were all great, different therapeutic styles, and all except one ended up resulting in fun, and I was never asked to pay anything more. And that seemed to be the standard pricing, at least around Europe, until maybe 2022 and then I noticed, as more and more escorts/porn/OF types were flooding the massage pages, everyone started to increase to double and even triple the prices! I got into massage specifically because it was CHEAPER than going to all those medical professionals. Now, the masseurs are more expensive! In NYC I had a longtime masseur, incredibly sexy, one of the best ever...in 60 minutes he accomplished what most can just barely do for me in 90...he was charging $120 for years. Then he upped to $150 and now he's well over $200. He let me continue to pay our original agreement for a while but then when he said that "next time when you come back" I was going to have to basically pay double for the same service, I was out and never saw him again. That's my issue. The price gouging that has happened over the last 4-5 years internationally. I find it absurd and prohibitive. I don't care how amazing the physique or how XXL he is, I'm not paying $300 for a massage and if I see various Extras offered with tiered pricing I am 99.999999% certain I won't be hiring. Again, no judgement, but me personally, I'm not interested in paying for something I get quite easily for free, whether it's with a masseur or not.

Wow...I wonder what that is about. Does he not like the idea of people looking at his profile and not hiring him? I did try to report it to the site to see if they would reverse it, but I never got a reply.

Same please!

Personal friend of mine...super sweet guy. Sexually not at all what I would go for, but he's a doll. He doesn't know I know he does this, but I can say, since I know him personally, he's probably one of the more honest and genuine out there. I get the feeling he's probably a very sensual person as well.

It's sort of a known fact that many masseurs use fake names, especially if they might have another primary profession, so I think he got weirded out because of that, and might be why the vibe didn't begin in a more easy fashion. I am curious about him...was he nude as well? I've seen his various profiles but no nudes. Is he how I like them? haha

Eduardo was amazing...but a bit crazy. My first session with him was extraordinary...others evidently felt he wasn't trained enough but I remember that he gave me a very legit deep tissue massage, and there was obviously chemistry between us, it turned into a quite a lot of fun, then getting sandwiches and eating them on his rooftop. We stayed in touch and had two other meetings, one without massage, just to enjoy each other directly. Turned into a bit of drama sometime after that when I had reached out again and he's subsequently disappeared, changed numbers, etc. No idea what happened to him and why he so unceremoniously "dumped me", as it were. But I can tell you, he was a dream, and for me an ideal fwb.

He's a dream...although does anyone know if he might actually also be versatile? I'm not so interested in total tops...but I've had instances where guys who listed themselves as top only turned out to be far more vers in reality, which is always a welcome surprise.

For reasons completely mysterious to me, he actually blocked me. I never had any contact with him, but I did have access to his pvt pics which are amazing...so I don't know...did he feel I was checking out his profile too frequently without actually soliciting him? I usually keep my views private since I know it notifies that they've been viewed, but I guess a few times I had it turned on and I was checking him out, maybe he got annoyed and blocked my account. If I were a bottom I'd absolutely have contacted him...I wish more than anything he were versatile.

As someone who lives in Paris, @ACluelessGent I'm glad to know we aren't competing for masseurs. I wouldn't touch any of those three!

How incredibly disappointing...so sorry you had to go through that. We've all been there at some point, and sometimes several times. It's always a gamble the first (or only) go. I guess I'll stay away. He's been eyeing my profile on rentmasseur but hasn't solicited me yet.

Yeah, this guy is bogus. I met him on Long Island...he's not from Italy directly and is not fluent in Italian. He was fully clothed the whole time, the massage was extremely perfunctory including use of a small massage gun. Whatever apartment he was staying in was a low-income style apartment, pretty filthy and messy, presumably he was staying with a friend or he had roommates. He kept wanting to see me jerk off but refused to take off his clothes (no, I was not aroused) unless I paid more...but already the massage was was way shorter than planned and I resented paying the full amount for such a lame massage. Yes, he is a sexy guy, although he was much less fit when I saw him. He's a joke. I left a negative review and he blocked me.

Did anyone meet this guy?

Yes, have used him 3 times...very professional guy. Very kind and great hands.

His number is a Florida area code and he says in the ad that he trained and lived in Florida. So according to you people can't move?

I will say, this thread is super fascinating to me. I've been intensely curious about trying this guy's massage since I do actually seek real, legit, super strong deep tissue massages. I am reticent for two connected reasons: price seems exaggerated for only 45 minutes. I usually need 90 minutes to get all areas done properly, especially my legs because I do a lot of running, so 45 mins is basically nothing no matter what the intensity level is. I find prices have become ridiculous in any case...massages in spas/parlors USED to be a going-rate of $1/€1 per minute and maybe a slight increase depending on style of massage, but the fact that people are charging well over 100 currency units for an hour is ridiculous. Anyway...that aside, he's obviously super sexy and the whole straight guy probably bi-curious thing IS a turn-on. That said, I have a (gay) Ukrainian masseur I use in Florida who is not only super sexy but is very adamant about his professionalism. I've seen him about 4 times total and each time there is such sexual tension and chemistry but he always resists. In fact, the first time with him, when I didn't even know he was gay so I had zero expectations, he said that if I had wanted to play with myself it was fine with him, when I suggested that he play with me and I play with him he told me his professional boundaries but then opened up his boxers (he was in underwear the whole massage) to reveal a very hard cock...so he was turned on, definitely interested, but nothing has ever happened. He said at another session that if we had met in a bar or club or app for sure we would have had sex but since I am his client he won't do it. And let's face it. Each masseur is going to have his boundaries and what/who he's willing to bend them for. I had a masseur who listed that he was top only on one of his profiles (I do try to cross reference between all the various sites, also in case they happen to list different prices), after the massage he was riding me like a cowboy...I asked him about it and he said that he's really more bottom but he doesn't advertise bottoming for clients because it's something he wants to do only if there is a real attraction and desire and not be paid to be fucked, that it's easier for him to top someone he's less into than for him to be fucked by them. So it could also be the same thing with Mr. (C)KarpathianWolf...he might have fairly rigid boundaries which do bend for certain clients with certain body types or looks and who knows...maybe he's one of those guys that will let his curiosity develop only after multiple sessions. That has happened, too.

Wait, so he actually touched your dick despite all these other guys saying he didn't go anywhere near their dicks and sometimes explicitly states prior that he doesn't do that?

I'm about to be in London in a few weeks and I have to say that the prices are absolutely absurd. They clearly do NOT consider currency conversions for people coming with Euros or Dollars. I find, in general, the prices everywhere are out of control. When I started getting into massage, for legit reasons even if many of them did happen to turn sexual (it was always mutual, never expected or demanded), I was actually in Berlin for a long work stint and hitting the gym hard. I was getting 2 massages per week at roughly 50-75 EUR per massage. Now there are people charging over 120-150EUR for what amounts to a slap & tickle. I simply don't get it. And London (and NYC) are by far the two worst cities I frequent with the most ridiculous prices.