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FOS -- I guess I don't get where people get so worked up they have to get so personal about defending an opinion. I want differences of opinions. A world full of my opinion, though it would be right, would be dull We have another poster on this forum who told me that he lost a couple of friends because of an opnion he posted on a thread here a few weeks ago. I find that total repulsive. Must not have been real friends that's for sure. Because I damned well expect my friends to pull mye up by my short hairs when I'm wrong. And you know what: there may even be a chance you could convince me of your position. Minds are like parachutes -- they only work when they are open.

FOS -- I am more than happy to say we will agree to disagree. Not everyone has to agree on all points. And we can certain disagree without being disagreeable. I can see where you are coming from and I think you can where I am as well. I guess it's emphasis. I certainly will not discount the fact that I am just coming out and might have a bit more zeal than some, much like a new convert to a cause (even though I've known I'm gay for my entire sentient life). But also living in the south and being of a certain age, it strikes me as something along the same lines as white comedians in black face. And any derogatory connotation makes me nervous and a bit angry. But again, I do see your point and we will just have to disagree. Agreeably.

FOS -- yeah, but it almost feels like they are celebrating him because he's got less morals, or he's less scared, or like being gay is something to be ashamed of. I may be alone here on this forum, but I like to kiss men. Shocking, I know. Now that may make me strange here (I have a feeling probably not) but I think it's something to be celebrated, not laughed at. And I feel like they are demeaning something I enjoy doing. And I enjoy doing it a lot. I will grant it beats the hell out of gay-bashing. But how do you think the Catholic League would respond if we started playing a game of Catholic Chicken -- who can come closest to saying a Hail Mary before they chicken out?

Yeah, I'm glad I'm only being beaten with a belt instead of a tire iron. Homosexuality is not "funny". It isn't a "joke". It isn't an accident like the real game of chicken. How about if we dress up in black face and have watermelon and fried chicken eating contests? Some would find that funny. Because I don't know nothing about birthin' no babies. Yes progress is being made and they are more tolerant. But not enough and it still is wrong. And we need to be able to say so. IMHO

But shouldn't we be outraged? It really is demeaning to us. At least I think so.

Wouldn't that be like Michael Jordan going down to the local community center to get into a local pickup game of basketball. Don't we sort of have a small advantage?

JAG -- All I can say is those pictures MOO-ved me. Well, at least part of me. Damn, now where's my tape measure? Thanks!

IT AIN'T EASY BEING A DICK!!! http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/701496/80548108.jpg

Sort of sums up the whole thing, doesn't it? http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/545465/719363.jpg

roflm(really big)ao. thanks countryboy

Yes, we have

What happens: A good time was had by all -- yes it has happened. Fairly recently and to someone I'm very, VERY close to.

Memphis? Slumming, glutes? :) Prices around here are all over the place, ranging anywhere from $2.87 to $2.99, but more in the $2.89-$2.91 range predominantly.

A couple of patient stories submitted by doctors shared with me by Jerry (gp0560) who gave me permission to post them. Thanks Jerry 6. I was performing rounds at the hospital one morning and while checking up on a man I asked . . .' So how's your breakfast this morning?' ‘It’s very good except for the Kentucky Jelly. I can't seem to get used to the taste.’ .. . Bob replied. I then asked to see the jelly and Bob produced a foil packet labeled 'KY Jelly.' Submitted by Dr. Leonard Kransdorf, Detroit , As a new, young MD doing his residency in OB. I was quite embarrassed when performing female pelvic exams... To cover my embarrassment I had unconsciously formed a habit of whistling softly. The middle-aged lady upon whom I was performing this exam suddenly burst out laughing and further embarrassing me. I looked up from my work and sheepishly said. . . ' I'm sorry. Was I tickling you?' She replied with tears running down her cheeks from laughing so hard . . . ' No doctor but the song you were whistling was . . . ' I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener.' ' A woman and a baby were in the doctor's examining room, waiting for the doctor to come in for the baby's first exam. The doctor arrived, and examined the baby, checked his weight, and being a little concerned, asked if the baby was breast-fed or bottle-fed. 'Breast-fed, ' she replied... 'Well, strip down to your waist,' the doctor ordered. She did. He pinched her nipples, pressed, kneaded, and rubbed both breasts for a while in a very professional and detailed examination. Motioning to her to get dressed, the doctor said, 'No wonder this baby is underweight. You don't have any milk.' ‘I know,’ she said, ‘I'm his Grandma, but I'm glad I came.’

http://laura.chinet.com/html/titles12.html ALL HAIL HIS GRACE, DUKE AXIOM2001 May this be but a small beginning to your contributions to the forum. Congratulations Axiom It's time to party! I'd say party like it's 1999 but maybe party like its 2001 may be more approrpriate in His Grace's case.

Welcome to the forums Snowdude. Two names popped immediately into my mind. One is a regular here -- Kevin Slater (http://www.laterslater.com/) , the other is latino, is Rafael Alencar. I don't have his web address. Those are the first two to my mind. Good luck and again, welcome

Love that sign, deej

Guys, I would also like to share a song parody that was given to me by one of the regulars at Monster on Thursday night when I was visiting Tomcat. TC had gone off for some stupid ass reason that I just can't explain or justify (just because he wanted to spend some private time with Tyger, I mean really, just because we agreed on that is that any reason to actually do it ) And TC left me in the capable hands of Phil the brilliant piano player at the bar. And a few of the regulars and I were sitting around singing and having a blast (god, I can't wait to get back there -- if you are in or near NYC you have got to go to Monster and see Phil). Anyway, one of the regulars, Knox, shared the following song parody which I just loved. I'm just trying to see if I can get up the nerve to sing it at my office Christmas party. Set to the music of Winter Wonderland, I think it's a blast: Lacy things – The wife is missin', Didn't ask – Her permission, I'm wearin' her clothes, Her silk pantyhose, Walkin' 'round in women's underwear. In the store – There's a teddy, Little straps – Like spaghetti, It holds me so tight, Like handcuffs at night, Walkin' 'round in women's underwear. In the office there's a guy named Melvin, He pretends that I am Murphy Brown. He'll say, Are you ready? I'll say, Whoa, Man! Let's wait until Our wives are out of town! Later on, if you wanna, We can dress -- like Madonna, Put on some eyeshade, And join the parade, Walkin' 'round in women's underwear! Lacy things – The wife is missin', Didn't ask -- her permission, I'm wearin' her clothes, Her silk pantyhose, Walkin' 'round in Women's Underwear, Walkin' 'round in women's underwear, Walkin' 'round in women's underwear!

Thanks Jackhammer. I especially love the George Burns quote. And as I get closer in age to him, it gets more and more relevant. Something that I just discovered that I found funny: one of the oldest saloons in Baltimore: "The Horse You Came In On Saloon" http://www.thehorsebaltimore.com/Site/Welcome.html But their tag line is great and probably should be standard for any bar in America: "Where no one is ugly at 2 AM". A bar with a great sense of humor. That's been around for a couple of hundred years. I think I'm going to have to stop in Baltimore to pay my respects. And to see if no one really is ugly at 2 AM.

Well that goes without saying.

Actually Arnold he normally responds best to "HEY PIG BOI" Love ya, brother. Great pics as usual. Pig boi.

Another great set Ken. But that second guy is amazing. The blue collar feel of a real man doing real work, even if it is a fantasy, is sexy as hell. He doesn't mind getting dirty. Perhaps he'd like some help cleaning up.

Sorry az, but this is one of those rare hot button topics for me. UNOS is the United Netowrk for Organ Sharing, the national NON-PROFIT organization that coordinates all organ donations nationwide. I'm just so used to them being around here that I mistakenly assume that everyone knows what UNOS is and does. No non-living transplant is done anywhere in the country without going through UNOS. I assume, but don't know for certain, that they are also involved with living organ donations as well. They are also the ones who maintains the lists of who is at what priority on the recipient list. They are a fabulous organization doing a desperately needed job. Check them out and learn more about the process at http://www.unos.org. Again, sorry for jumping in so hard. It's just to me this is such an easy decision to make. And the fact that thousands of our fellow citizens die every year because people take the parts with them to their grave is just frustrating to me. When so many lives could be saved, why isn't virtuallly everyone willilng to be an organ donor. I just don't understand. I have a really hard personal time dealing with selfishness and thoughtlessness. And this may be the most egregious example: people die because of it every day, almost one an hour. WHY??? I'd love to know why too.

KMEM is exactly correct. Your medical power of attorney for shorthand has final say regardless of your wishes. That's why you must have a discussion with that person beforehand and stress how important it is to you. And my next-of-kin knows it very well, so no issues But have that discussion. And I think most states make it easy to select being an organ donor. Almost too easy. Because the transplant team will always get the Medical POA's permission to harvest the organ. So it's almost as if your wishes on your DL doesn't exist. That's why I say again -- have that discussion. It's not easy. I know that. Who wants to think of their own mortality. But if you believe it's the right thing to do, and especially as fervently as I do, you MUST have that talk. And while we're at it, it's probably a good thing to have the other talks around the same areas -- DNR orders, level of intensity of care at the end, all that fun stuff, that's depressing as hell. But it does make it easier on your POA at that most stressful of time -- the loss of their loved one -- YOU!

thanks azdr. As I live in the land of UNOS and have known doctors on transplant teams, trust me, these guys make the most meticulous guy look sloppy. Fanatical doesn't even come close to these guys. So yeah, the standards are very, VERY high. Why don't more people do it? Don't get me started on the intelligence and thought (?) processes of the general american public. They don't think. Just a little human compassion and concern for others is all it takes. Another reason: the stupid urban legends that the donor family has to pay the cost of removing the organs. COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY FALSE. AN OUTRIGHT LIE. And these teams are also understanding to the victim's family. It's tough work for these men and women to go into usually horrifying situations -- it's almost always a sudden death -- and talk to a grieving family who is so early in the Kubler-Ross stages that they can't think straight. That's a job there is not enough money in the world to do.