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I don't either. And the pumped muscle mass doesn't look natural to me, either. I know a lot of guys are into super-pumped muscle, but I'm not one of those.

I also saw him more than a decade ago when he was younger. It was a summer day and he was warm and sweaty, wearing shorts, which worked for me. We did the massage on the floor, where he displayed nimble qualities. After he saw me naked, he advanced quickly to the sensual. There was barely enough time to discern his massage skill, but his touch did not repel me. He turned me onto my back fairly quickly, so I was disappointed in no glute work. I was pretty horny that day, so we did have some fun. He seemed very into playing, and we both ended up satisfied. I don't think he was here for the full hour. I never booked him again. Just goes to show how much I value massage talent over sex. I remember him being Russian and a small-bodied man. He had a boyish quality about him, which could make his age difficult to guess. I'm sure if he had an intoxicating body odor I would have seen him again, but I don't remember his scent at all. I'm sorry to hear he's behaving like a jerk. Jerk behavior is a surefire way to kill your business.

LOL. It took me a minute to figure out what SW meant. Brain fart. A board like this reminds us that no two clients are alike. The same is true for masseurs. There are a percentage of customers who always want something for nothing. Who doesn't love a freebie or a deal? I'm sure some horny gay guys live a selfish life, and when they book a massage off one of these sites, they most certainly are seeking SW any way they can get it, as cheaply as possible. The masseur has to decide how he wants to handle a customer like this. Do you provide a price list? Do you reject old grabby hands every five seconds? Or do you sit on that gorgeous hard-on and satisfy that bottom urge you've had all day? Speaking honestly, I never booked a massage looking for penetration. I was always prepared for aggressive glute work, but penetration was last on my mind. That is, until I discovered the unspoken desire of some masseurs. Certain masseurs know how to seduce us into spending more money, even if it means a chance increase in tip. The guys who were generous sharing their body smells with me certainly left my apartment richer. It's a jungle out there, and we all have to figure out a way to navigate. I always believed that good communication was key, but now in these text-only digital days, it's getting more and more difficult to go beyond one or two words, or can't text at all. Sadly, I don't know what the answer is anymore.

The yogi guys seem to have incredible flexibility, and can withstand these awkward body positions for lengthy period of times. Many Asian guys can do things with their bodies that I could never do. Squatting comes so easy for many of them. Some of my best bed massages were performed by Asian masseurs. I do miss those days.

For many years I used a padded exercise mat neatly covered with a bed sheet on the floor. My floors are poly-ed wood. The mat was fine for me (when my skeleton was in better shape), but I felt sorry for the therapist. I went out and bought knee pads. I'm probably revealing my identity by saying I offered my outcall masseurs kneepads. I have to say those floor massages were mostly fun for me. Almost every one of those guys easily managed to sit on my face during the service.

Mark Alvee has a new video out showing a bed massage in a hotel. This is a good visual example of how difficult this bed method is. Keep in mind that both Mark and the masseur are not tall guys. You can see the little room that exists for a therapist to do competent work. Also, notice the length of time the masseur is on his knees. And when he's not on his knees, he's bent over, dealing with the strain on his back muscles. Certainly, if you want to feign bed sex as the customer, a bed massage might get your fantasy somewhere close. There is no way I can do the head on a pillow anymore, thanks to older age. I need a headrest, so a bed massage is a no for me.

If I stepped into a gym massage room and saw this guy, I would melt. Damn. It's difficult to imagine a muscled body like that not being talented at massage. Guys with bodies like these should know a great massage by default. But the truth is, the talent lies in the hands, and the knowledge and power put behind them. I once went to a guy who specialized in Swedish. He was a handsome, sweet guy, but his massage always made me fall asleep. It took another guy, a sports specialist, to teach me that I never wanted to fall asleep during a massage. Once you embrace the pain benefit, there is no going back to Swedish.

No shortage of photos in quality locations. Definitely a nice body and great behind for a bttm. Face looks familiar. With no massage skill, this thread sounds like he's one of the easy-money guys. Maybe he sits on your face while he plays with your pecs. Many would find that worth $200. I don't see him wanting to do laundry to keep clean sheets on the massage table. Too bad. If he had serious talent, and a generous personality, imagine the business demand this guy could muster.

How would you know whom to book with? Why would the price be $200 at RM, and $70 for 60 minutes at G Man? This doesn't make any sense to me. Is this just a ploy to use (unknown) photos to lure customers in? As much as I like a handsome Asian guy, these ads (and spas) are difficult to trust.

It's interesting how these photos differ a bit from the rentmasseur photos. He looks a bit older, and not quite as inviting. I somehow missed the skull tattoo on his chest. I'm sure it's considered a work of art, but a bit too dark for me. I'm less aroused now.

He's sexy as hell. I wonder why so many name changes? That's never a good sign. He has a way with words. "Taste a bit of everything." Damn, that speaks to me.

They were a rare couple. They treated their sessions like an Ang Lee martial arts film, expertly choreographed. They were a very detail oriented couple. I'm sure there are other couples who take 4-hand work as seriously, but I don't know of any in America who reach their level.

Sensory overload is an understatement. Chemistry is difficult enough to find with one guy let alone two. 4-hands is best watching in porn. If there are too many hands in the mix, and the rhythms are syncopated, it can get very distracting. I'm a bit sensitive in the way a hand touches my body and then leaves my body during a massage. Abrupt moves of the hands feel cold and insensitive to me. As for timing, in my experience, 90 minutes always produces a better ending, if the guy is known for that. However, 90 minutes with a light toucher, a tickler, or a ball scratcher is torture.

Thank you for that info. I did not realize the price was only $10. That seems quite reasonable to build a month's worth of screenshots, and keep a private reference library for future hires. I appreciate the suggestion.

LOL. In many ways, massage has saved my life. A great one can lift and carry me for months. When a skilled, good-looking man is willing to touch and work just the right places, ooo baby. Nothing better.

Sorry, I can't fall for that. Faces are too important to me. I'll bet every face on rentmen thinks he's hot, and we all know there is no such thing as universal taste. I totally respect privacy, but I understand no one is going to trust me as a first time contact. Will I pay some website membership just to see faces on headless photos? Absolutely not. My income is fixed, and I limit such expenses. Are paid photos private? Absolutely not, so I don't buy the safety motive either. These guys who do HE have to do what they have to do, but there is no way I'm hiring a faceless photo. I don't care what 100 reviews say.

It looks to me like they have the option to exclude those modifiers. From the sound of his ad, my gut is telling me he is serious about massage. I'm guessing no HE, or anything like that. Not much nudity in the photos. But can't know for sure until someone visits with him, or has a conversation.

You're probably in the wrong place. Seems a little naive to me. I've never been to one of these Asian "spa" places, but if the guys are doing HE, and charging for it, via tip or otherwise, it's illegal. If the illegal activity is as blatant as described in some of these threads, then I would suspect that owner pressure is behind it. Sounds like an old-fashioned brothel experience disguised as a spa, and those places have always been run mafia style. This tipping business should not be thought of or compared to traditional spa tipping. This 40-100% upsell is a whole other animal. I would imagine there is some kind of punishment if the HE service fails to be acquired. That might explain why the massuer turns unhappy immediately when his tip list is rejected.

I never quite get this approach. Couldn't he decide? Headless torso is bad enough, but 13? Some trainers are great massage therapists. I've had a few. I wonder why he conceals his face. Nothing wrong with being a trainer and a massage therapist. (Unless he's big on the HE, then I understand.) I am curious to know more. Trainers usually give strong massages, because they know what the muscles need. I wonder if he'll provide a face pic?

I don't believe it. NYC has over 100,000 hotel rooms, with visiting masseurs by the hour. I've never done a survey. Are you talking licensed professionals or HE acrobats? All I can speak to is my own experience, and I've had at least 100 massages in my apartment in 40 years, probably more. Maybe only 10% came with no table, and those were during a time I hired HE types. It is easy info to find out, you simply ask before booking the client.

His opening salvo is Hi Papi? Boner killer.

He looks like someone I would welcome in a gym environment, minus a warm, welcoming smile. He looks like a sports massage therapist who takes his work seriously. Except, he doesn't own his own table? WTF. How many clients in NYC own their own table? I wish I had that luxury of space. I can't imagine meeting with this guy in my bed. It's almost impossible for me to take bed massages seriously, unless you're in a hospital and can't get out of bed. A serious massage provider is not going to ruin his body, or put his body muscles at risk, by doing bed massages. Give us a break. If you have extreme talent, which the OP implies, but no table, then you're not serious, or worse, you're broke. You're not committed. You're not professional. If he had a table, if he had a license (or could prove his training), I would try him out. Otherwise, no go.

According to his rentmen ad, he is barely offering much more. Not sure I would ever hire an escort for a boyfriend experience. He is good looking, and who wouldn't want those lips kissing you. The photos are a bit deceiving. He's only 5'7", and a Scorpion. I don't think my sign is compatible with his, LOL. I know it's unfair, but guys with a Fire Island photo turn me off. I instantly think drugs, attitude, and careless sex. Such a beautiful place with an ugly side. But that's a negative stereotype and not fair. Without more people praising his talent as a masseur, it's got to be a pass.

Too bad he's probably not licensed. I'd book him in a minute. I like that bad boy look.

Thank you for sharing that. Good to know. On to the next one.