BaronArtz

Indeed. Thank you for your comment. Now that I reflect on this, it would have been totally UNTHINKABLE for me to discuss this with my parents. Can you imagine?

With a priest. His name was father John. At boarding school in Belgium. I was about 11. He gave me a glass of brandy, a cigar then he unzipped his pants and showed me his cock. He then masturbated while he fondled my ass (I had my clothes on). There was no other interaction. I don't know if this qualifies as 'sex' but I didn't forget it - and I am 58 now.

It would have been better for Derek as well - it would not have led to this very public showdown. There are always 2 sides to a story. I don't subscribe to the theory that 'the client is always right'. This can be a job with high pressure to perform, and not always under ideal circumstances. That doesn't mean I approve of the tone and content of Derek's response. Maybe someone ought to organize a course 'customer service for escorts' or 'basic sales techniques in the escorting business'. It would benefit many, including Derek.

I agree with that 100%

'Vin Marco' on the Muscle Service Forum mentioned to having seen 16 clients in one day. I questioned it, and he confirmed it. Being that he is providing muscle worship more than full-on sex, it may be plausible. But it turned me OFF, quite a bit. Glad I was not client 16 that day.

I work out at Equinox in NYC. I can tell you that a great many, but not all, male personal trainers are 'available' on the DL. You need a level of tact when approaching them about it. I am not sure what the situation is at Equinox - Chicago.

That surprises me quite a bit ... he is very much into health and fitness. I cannot imagine him using hard drugs. But then, I met him 2 months ago, things can change. With me, he very much liked his legs and his ass played with. I spent a long time exploring between his muscular ass cheeks which he clearly enjoyed. I will say that he needed to use a small butt plug to maintain a full erection but I was fine with that ...

'recharge' is an app that lets you book a hotel room by the minute ... I think they are only in SF and NYC at the moment, but it works like a charm. https://recharge.co/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/24/recharge-lets-you-book-a-hotel-room-for-minutes-at-a-time/

I met him a few times in New York and enjoyed him. Definitely open to 'more'. The pictures in his ad are accurate. He maintains a near-perfect physique, as evidenced by the pictures on his instagram profile which he updates several times per week. I do recommend him. The incessant name changes are a bit strange. Is he hiding what he does from a jealous girlfriend? Hard to explain.

A bit disappointing in the 'crotch' part of his anatomy ...

Really? I didn't get that impression at all.

Gorgeous, in many ways ... and not just because of the impressive VPL. What happened to him? Is he still around?

YUM! There is definitely 'something' about Iranian wrestlers ... that subject merits its own thread

But his ad, as of 8/31 says Las Vegas!

Are they erect, or is this 'normal'?

Look at the current French President and his spouse. We Europeans are far more accepting.

Thanks for letting us know. I thought he had stopped. I would have refrained from contacting him if had.

Did he quit? The ad is no longer available as of 8/27/2017 ...

His incall rate is $350 now.

They don't. That is what makes them an addict. Thank you for stating the obvious. But they still need to provide cash or 'services' to acquire them. They need help. They don't need to be victims of people abusing them. In this specific case, the abuse ended in death. Do you not have any humanity left in you?

I will say they intrigue me, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

What if they desperately needed to make money? They agreed to Mr. Buck's vicious demands because they needed money to survive? Not everybody has ample choices in life. Certainly not when you are young, black, gay and a street prostitute on a boulevard in L.A.

I am generally speaking open-minded about various fetishes. In this case I really recoil at the thought that there is somebody out there who uses his vast financial resources to coerce young - presumably underprivileged - men to come close to overdose just for his own pleasure. I hope there will be legal consequences.

I like the way how NYCPatrick's ass looks ... AND he bottoms: https://rent.men/NYCPatrick

Some of us used to meet at Club 2O in NYC on Sunday evening. It was great fun. I have met privately with 3 forum members. Those were gossipy meetings over lunch or coffee. I was actually surprised how 'normal' everybody looked and acted.