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Then again, this poster counters the negative one.... Maybe Brent is kinda back to being beautiful??..... Hmmmm......

Then I read his review on another post on this forum.... Suddenly, he's not so beautiful..... ;(

But... he's so beautiful!!!!.....

Worst case: They mistaken me for someone else who screwed them, send me a pissed-off note, then realize their mistake, and apologize. Consider myself warned. They aren't perfect and might make a (rare) mistake. Yes, this forum is great to warn people of shady behavior, of which there's plenty out there, but this is hardly that, especially when they have a pretty stellar reputation. I felt they were getting unfairly railroaded here by some, hence my speaking up. Regardless, to each his own!

Oh c'mon. They have a long good reputation as evidenced by their many positive reviews and the non-existence of any complaints or hints of shady behavior. Someone screwed them, and they made a mistake identifying the wrong person... for which they've now apologized. Move on. I haven't even met these guys (yet), but maybe I'm untroubled by this because I've never had the pleasure of meeting guys as perfect as you all!

MikeCMT is the best. Nicest guy too.

If you've hired them several times and trust them, shouldn't they trust you too? I'd be bummed if someone I have seen many times and been kind to, suddenly wanted a deposit; I'd actually be offended.

Assuming that it’s as wonderful a session as 90% of them are, I will at least give double the spa rate in total, if not more. 90 minutes, $200-225. When you consider the spa takes a cut, they’re still getting less than their RM equivalents. Plus if you’re generous, they remember it the next time too! If it’s just a decent massage but nothing that memorable, like at most other spas, then because their rate is so low I’ll still give $50 at least in tip. If the rate were higher, I’d probably give 20%.

Like I said, they probably mixed up their clients, as I am taking the client/commenter's explanation here at face value, but that doesn't make them scammers as some suggest they could be. But if you leave cash, odds are, if they don't see it, they'll be informing you of that before you get to the car. Unfortunately, Paypal puts the providers at risk as a bad client can reverse their payment once they're gone, and leave the provider totally screwed. They can duke it out via Paypal but obviously if details of the service aren't in concert with Paypal's terms, it gets murky and perhaps more costly. There are scamming providers out there, but usually, thanks to a site like this, word of mouth spreads quickly about their lack of character. Given Froy & Gabrielsp have been around for some time, and have almost entirely stellar feedback, I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt as far as any scamming accusation is concerned. There are bad clients too, and as I saw another provider shortly after this happened to him, I saw the hurt he felt that he was used like that, which, I suspect, felt worse than the loss of income for one session.

I still have not seen Froy or his partner Gabrielsp, though I hope to one day. I have no idea whether they're good guys or not, but they have so many great reviews... it seems they really work hard to provide their clients with a top-end massage as hoped for. My point of view is informed because another provider, whom I'm friendly with, had this done to him... the client paid him via Paypal, and then once he left, filed a chargeback, leaving the provider with nothing. What is the provider to do? They feel totally powerless, and worse than the loss of income is the disrespect and feeling of being used and made to feel worthless. I can understand how in such a position, the provider writes a note like Froy did, trying to maintain some perception of power in the situation. Let's be honest: They're not going to small claims court given too many questions could likely be asked about the services, etc., but they were taken advantage of and made to feel small, and so they responded in the heat of the situation as best as they could. I'm assuming, based on the recipient's response here, that they mistook which client used the Paypal, so that's on them. But I don't see this as an extortion effort, and if they were the type, they'd have many more negative comments here and on Rentmasseur from others who would find them to be shady characters. I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, outside of getting their clients mixed up. That said, I always pay cash.....

I've always been selective, but probably more today than before.

I love your attitude. I feel the same. The excitement of the first meet-up is the best, even though I'll see favorites many times. Binge to me is maybe 3x in a week on occasion.

I’m not addicted. I usually wait at least 15 minutes into my current session before I start scheduling the next one for later that morning.

bump Pablo updated his pictures; he's very cute! Anyone?

Has anyone tried Pete yet at this or the other place? Haven't heard anything about him, really. He's cute!