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	20 days after Cherish? Now you apologize after 20 days? Seriously? Lol! No d**k is worth the hassle to travel to your place in Long Island with a BAD customer care. I’d stick to prime and its branches, great masseurs with welcoming attitude. Or I’d rather commmute to Manhattan instead and find a decent men spa. Better looking massage therapists. I’ve seen one of the masseurs in cherish advertising in rentmasseur, SO NOT worth it for the hassle 🤪
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	Modern Family: Luke Dunphyfrancisssgorg replied to francisssgorg's topic in TV and Streaming services Ok so this is AI right??? Not true? Cause I was checking his IG and his chest hair is right in the middl section, and in this, it’s like all over. Sad but kinda relieved, cause I don’t wanna picture him nude lol! He’s still the funny young kinda dumb kid Luke for me lol
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	Modern Family: Luke Dunphyfrancisssgorg replied to francisssgorg's topic in TV and Streaming services Me! Lol I said it, I blurred it for modesty reasons! And yes I am a bit happy but kinda feel like I’m seeing a kid do nasty stuff 😭 I just can’t get over modern family, it’s like part of my childhood, and yes he has a decent looking dong 😭😅
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	Nolan Gould aka Luke Dunphy. PLEASE somebody tell me this is AI? Luke, Claire and Phil did not raise you to be a c*rnstar! Although uncle Mitch and Cam would be so proud 🤣 Again, I saw this online from a group chat, please tell me this is AI.. I feel like I'm sinning because I still picture the kid Luke from Modern Family. And I still watch reruns 😭😭 PS I blurred the schlong for modesty purposes and if there's a better section to post this please let me know, I just want answers...
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	You used air quotes. That alone says everything 😂
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	@GHart I hope you have read my first post about supposedly my first visit with cherish. Everything else will be clarified and the issue I’m pointing out is not just about the presence of a lounge, but rather, the therapist/receptionist whatever texted me for a definite time and I came in just a FEW minutes early, and yet it’s way past 4 pm, almost 4:30pm, so if indeed a massage is happening inside, they double booked? Or for some reason massage got extended whatsoever? They could have messaged me and said if they could adjust the time frame. Look at the last text, time stamp states 5:20 pm. The hell??? No that is unacceptable, and I’ve been to a lot of spas, from the bougie ones to a dumpster like, they have the worst customer care or help or whatever.
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	@luvhuskyI have a different perspective with this one. I came from the country wherein most escorts or provider or masseurs are straight guys. To the point that the patrons of these men from the gay community are in touch with each other, just like this forum, but to assure the providers attributes, like physical appearance, price range, and most importantly, the sexual orientation of these men. They or we mostly like straight men because for them, it’s just transactional. It’s just work. Like same thing as with straight guys posting in their OF accounts for the money. You have to “perform” your best with gay clients so that they would become your loyal patrons. As compared to gay providers, emotions are involved, like it’s a requirement for the clients to be as hot looking or as gorgeous as the providers and that they have to scrutinize you first and pass to their “standards” before they give service. I mean I don’t think I’m joining a beauty pageant here that they need to approve everything about me before they “massage” me. If it was all about the looks, then again I always say this, I should have went to grind* or sn*ffies. Technically this is what you call the old school way of escorting or providing s**ual services. And I don’t think anyone would just give you a sensual session with HE if it wasn’t for the tip.
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	Located in flushing NY. Parking is quite challenging especially for someone like me who lives in Jersey. Also, it’s like located in the chinatown or whatever of NY or Queens area. I’ve made a short review about this one on the thread spas in NYC. But I figured since it’s not in Manhattan, then I’d made a separate one. It’s a new men spa like months ago, I think it just opened this year. Only two massage therapists, one is K and the other is H. Both are asian and I noticed when I paid using zelle, they asked a another chinese lady to speak with me in english and proceed with the transaction using her phone, so I’m guessing, she’s the boss. And when I asked MT K if they do outcalls, they said only in the spa and like 7 days a week 11-11. I’m guessing they also live there. Anyway, so I got K earlier this year, and the massage was decent. Your regular shiatsu chinese type of massage, with like a mechanical sensual towards the end, and some other uneventful “specialty”. If I could just sleep lol. So that made a bad 1st impression with them. Then about a week ago, when I was looking for a male masseur near jersey, again which is a fail, I went to look in nearby areas, and I remembered EZ. So I asked them if I could book the other masseur, H, and they said yes. With this massage, again it was decent, but I believe that it was too conservative or reserved, to the point that I strongly believe, he’s a straight guy. Very straightforward as well, and sometimes I like that, very vanilla massage and typical routine in men spa. So I thought, hey, I wanna have him again, just to “release” the tension I was having from stress. I booked him for a 3 pm massage and they confirmed. 20 mins in while I was already on my way, the text said, just to confirm, you’re asking for H right? And not K? I replied yes, and then the disappointing part started, they said oh, H can only come back to work after 10 pm, or tomorrow, and that you can try K again. I argued that I really want H (to have the very vanilla experience) and that they should have mentioned it instead of me crossing the bridge and spending toll. They said I could have a discount, $40 instead of 60 which I agreed to. I wasn’t looking forward for an exciting massage with K because of my initial interaction with him. He seems cute, and looks straight as well, tho I feel like he’s either bi, or discreet, because the only thing I kinda noticed about him that seems kinda gay are his eyebrows that are on fleek. But like nowadays, men are doing microblading whatsoever. Ok so, the massage was decent again, nothing sensual face down, but then sometimes, his thing was grazing on my arms and head. Very common in a men spa sometimes unintentional. He started being more sensual when he took care of the lower body part, but still cautious and not all out. Then when I turned over, that’s when the “tipping negotiation” started. I know it with asians and frankly, I appreciate it more because of the straightforwardness of it all. Transactional and that’s it. When we agreed, that’s where things took to a whole new level lol. I never knew his endings could be this exciting. He seems like a boring masseur to me at first. Well anyway, one thing’s for sure is that I will definitely repeat it with him. 🤪
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	Let me just say this very shallow comment since I just finished season 1 and started season 3 on a plane ride back from vacation: as a gay man, instead of getting pumped up by the incestous sex scene of Patrick S. and his brother in the story, I got more hot and bothered by the cougars and the russians. I knew that the slutty one was the actress and I knew she would totally fuck the hot main russian guy/butler instead of laurie. Gosh the butler’s body is too hot!!! Haha I’m not yet done, but is there any frontal with him? Although now to the comment: I hate the partying cougars and sneaking the butler in for sex scene. I hated it. It was hot but you know why I hate it? It’s because it screams the fact that cougars are the number one enemies of gay guys. Gay guys love converting and experimenting with straight guys as long as there are alcohols involved, dr*gs sometimes (which I don’t agree with) and in some cases money. We all have holes, and the fact is, that cougars have p*ssies. Never tried them but whenever a bi guy or a straight curious guys comes up to me and they explain why p*ssies are fun to fck with, it’s like better than an *ssh*le. And it’s also true that cougars have better stamina to fck younger hot guys and not get worried about pregnancy. I hate cougars 🙄 lol
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	Exhibit A: double booking. Good thing this client didn’t mind. Jeez he waited for an hour? I would have walked out, there are other MTs who can do those “specialties” PS I was back reading some comments from this “footspa” and it seems like you @Manhattan also invalidated one of the user’s bad experience in a phone call exchange with a masseur named Lucas. Defensive much?Anyway, Ouija (channeling Jennifer Coolidge), tell me, move the glass if this guy works at Cherish or not…
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	Not to invalidate your response, but have you seen the time stamps? I waited past 4pm. And if you say they are “busy they lock the door and may not be as responsive as we’d like” first off, how come they accepted me thru text as the 4pm slot client? And per the text message, there are 3 (allegedly) available masseurs. Yes I requested for one, but he could have said “sorry, I’m not available at that time, you want another time slot or another therapist?” But instead, he kept on texting me that he’s coming, and I assumed he’s driving his way back to the spa despite the “OPEN” signage blinking. Anyway, CAN YOU READ THE TEXT MESSAGES AGAIN? It’s like you are saying that people have to compromise bad hospitality and customer relations with a great service, which btw, really??? Only a handful of people complimented their service, (dunno which ones are the MTs themselves) And don’t tell me they don’t have a lounge or at least a sofa so that waiting customers wouldn’t stand outside in a chilly weather. “They lock the doors if they have clients” yeah, what’s more sketchy than that? I don’t care what in the hell they are doing inside the room, but I’m pretty sure there’s a waiting area for clients right? I was at Prime months ago and there was a waiting area. A customer was a bit more than delightful and happy from the massage he was receiving, he was moaning real loud, probably the client was receiving head…. massage as an additional treatment, and there were other people in the waiting room. We the f**k don’t care, as long as we’re comfortable in the lounge area patiently waiting. And again, this wouldn’t have happened if the MT didn’t possibly double booked: pointing out to the fact that he messaged me back “available” after an hour? The fck? yeah it’s ok, I wish them well and I hope they treat their loyal clients much nicer than what I experienced or any other clients who had a negative experience about them. Make sure you cater to your patrons, your patrons that are the locals in your area, otherwise, where in the world can you get more clients? 🤨
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	Paying An Escort to Sleep and Exercisefrancisssgorg replied to FaustOust's topic in Questions About Hiring You can make an informal contract with him. Like not really admissible to any court of law, but just something that states that if he breached any of what’s written in there, you can terminate your relationship with him. I mean I don’t fully understand the laws of escorting (if there’s any), but as what most of the people said, you are a paying and returning client. What’s the essence of companionship (whatever the hell that means) if he’s not spending time with you. He just got too comfortable with you. And probably majority of the responders who are bashing you, are also escorts. I mean they entered in that industry, might as well live up to its standards.
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	Steam and sauna patrons and their different personalitiesfrancisssgorg replied to francisssgorg's topic in The Lounge @jeezifonly ok “diva”, you’re entitled to your own opinion ❤️❤️❤️
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	I initially texted other guys on rentmasseur but they weren’t available, and since I’m only here in Seattle for a few days, might as well try some “locals”. This guy named Taka (as per reviews on rentmasseur) responded quickly. Side note: I am writing this review here and not on rentmasseur because I think it needs to be heard. In rentmasseur, most of his reviews are positive which I don’t know why. There are several who made some honest reviews but he’s quick to like clap back at them. His photos are headless torsos and in his thongs so I was like taking a gamble with him. It also looks like he’s a bottom in those pics. When I arrived at the place, there were no spots left on the street so I have to pay 20 bucks for the parking. His location is at capitol hill which I think is the lgbt neighborhood in seattle. He went downstairs to fetch me, and as he opened the door, I saw his facial reaction, like he lost a bet or kinda disgusted by my presence. I know I’m not handsome and a little chub, you just had to rub it in right? Anyway, the feeling is kinda mutual, because you know why his photos on rentmasseur are headless? Well yeah, I’ll just leave it at that. Dunno why clients said he’s a good looking guy tho. Anyway, so I took a chance. Anyway, just to take note, his profile says sensual, or mutual touch with release. Ok, let’s keep that in mind. His place really is in an old building, and his apartment really looks a bit run down, which is ok as long as you’re clean. His place tho had a lot of stuff and furniture and portraits of art or like naked guys or girls and some other trinkets which btw, screams bottom. Nothing wrong with that, I had a bottom masseur before that was really nice and his place is immaculate. So anyway, his english I think is limited so we had difficulty communicating. He allowed me to strip and laid on his massage bed that is huge btw, face down. He started massaging me with the use of an oil that seems to be either really drying or he’s just too stingy when applying. It made the gliding and stroking of his arms and elbows non sensual. Like he meant for it that way, which btw, some negative reviews commented. His techniques are basic elbow shiatsu stuff with a decent amount of pressure, but he never initiated anything sensual in between my as* cheeks and thighs or groin area which I always get from any sensual massage. After that “routine” he asked me to turn over. Of course I wouldn’t be aroused with that routine so I was disappointed. He then started some lame moves to try to get me going (which was very lame I’d rather not describe) but I was checking his facial reactions, and again, he’s looking away looking like he’s completely disgusted. He never incorporated some other sensual stuff like n**ple pl*y or playing with the as* cr*ck whatsoever which is fine, but what I hated is that it feels like he’s deliberately doing some de-h*rnyfying moves. He started the “release” portion with the attitude of let’s get it over with. I tried the mutual touching part but he kept on budging and moving away. Ok, so I guess it’s only for certain clients and we know which clients are those, until I finished. And you know the first thing he did, went straight to the bathroom, swung the door open which made a whack sound and started washing his hands. It really made me feel so bad about myself. Afterwards, he brought a really small, barely damp towel and 1 piece of wipes and handed it to me, which to my understanding, clean yourself up. Ok, I was laying there, shocked, like I had the worst customer service ever, and so I wiped myself while he hurriedly dressed himself. And as soon as he did that, I started dressing to, like he’s saying b*tch what are you still doing here. And so I asked him if I could go to the bathroom, and composed myself before I came out and gave him the payment with tip. I shouldn’t have tipped him tho lol kidding. He offered water so kudos to that. And he was quiet the whole time so after putting my shoes on, I said my good bye, and walked myself down to their front door. Moral of the story: find a masseur that doesn’t discriminate based on the client’s appearance. Again, that’s why I prefer straight masseurs rather than having diva’s live waving at your face. I think also moving forward, to my japanese sister, please just ask photos of your clients before accepting them, so in that way, you would grab clients that is to your liking. Idk why that should make sense because that is rentmasseur and not grindr or sniffies. anyway I just need to delete that memory in my mind now. Asianmassage - Male Massage & Bodywork in Seattle, WA | RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur Asianmassage in Seattle, WA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual...
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	Steam and sauna patrons and their different personalitiesfrancisssgorg posted a topic in The Lounge So basically, part of my sexual awakenings would be cruising in spas, particularly in the steam and sauna section. Just to be clear, I am talking about places like kspas or massage places and NOT bath houses with different theme nights or something. And over the years of observing people inside those spas, I can categorize them based on their willingness to “interact” with other patrons and to some extent, body types. 1. The “main character” syndrome people: these are the type wherein they know they look good, hot, young (or dads) fresh and at most, hunky. Sometimes packing down under or not. They know once they enter in the steam and sauna section, they don’t need to hunt or scout and go to the ends of the earth just to find people to interact with. They can either be tops, verse or bots or whatever, but one thing you can hate about them is that they think they’re too special, they need somebody in their level to play with, and that’s fine, that is your preference, but some are just so unkind to others to the point that they isolate the outcasts in different ways like getting out of the steam or sauna section angrily because for some reason, some action were interrupted or someone not on their level entered the room. 2. The “chub chasers”, is I think like a sub category of number 1, same physical description, but they are like philanthropists. They entertain charity cases like us chubs (yes I said us). They are nice to have a conversation with, and they don’t treat you base on your body types. In fact, they are either solely attracted to chubs or other body types too. 3. The “Divas”: these are the Gretchen Wieners of spas, wherein they think they look good, mostly twinkish or twunkish, some might have voluptuous body frame, but one thing’s for sure, they are c*nty bottoms. They believe they are special because they are usually the ones horny gay guys are hunting for. Sometimes they end up being a one stop shop for everybody in the club, a h*e getting his ass (or cock) torn that day. They despise what they think of are ugly AF patrons and they validate the actions of main characters. Basically the relationship of Regina George and Gretchen Weiners. 4. The “ dumb ones” like Karen Smith. These are the newbies who mostly enter the spa out of curiosity. They can either be closeted discreet gay guys, straight curious, bi curious or still searching for his identity. Everybody was like this at one point. If you are gorge, chances are, you’d be the main course of the buffet and everybody will feast on you, and you will either hate it or love it. Be careful tho, because I’ve witnessed some older gentlemen corner I guy like this and ended up harassed. He got out of it tho so thank God. 4. The “outcasts”: basically the chubs and older gays. You know they consider these kspas or saunas as safe spaces. But it’s still a public place, so most like, they would still encounter some harsh realities in life. They (or we) are the Oliver’s of the society. When they get lucky to have an action, they would be like “Please sir, I want some more” lol. Sounds funny and sad at the same time. Sometimes they get lucky, sometimes they go home with nothing, nada, zero. Most likely they would hope that some chub chasers or men with older tastes interact with them. 5. The “noisy ones”: these are the people that came in groups, they can either be college friends, or work friends and may or may not have the intention to play around inside, and if they do, mostly like it would only be with each other. They can also be those russian dudes or straight dads who got out from a golf or pickleball or basketball or what ever balls they played with except the actual balls that we all know and love (well you never know, some of them might be on the dl lol) 6. The “perverts”: these are the ones whose main goal is to really find a f*ck fest inside. Like every single time they see a potential bottom or a gay guy that looks scrumptious in their eyes, they would charge at it. They don’t know boundaries and they don’t care if people are avoiding them. They think that saunas are the same as bath houses, like it’s a free for all party. Be careful as they tend to get aggressive. 7. I forgot to mention: “the exhibitionists” wherein they just stroke their member down there to show off but does not allow mutual touching or even touching in general, it can either be an annoying or exhilarating type of fetish for watchers. For these types of people, yes it’s a fetish, but could also serve as a double purpose of practicing safe sex. Literally. And with that I’ll add number.. 8 8. The “watchers” or voyeurs. That basically is like a fetish of them watching p*rn movies turn to live action. It can again also serve as double purpose for practicing safe sex. I sometimes belong on this category because either nobody wants to interact with you so you’ll just enjoy the view. Sad but you have to look things in a different perspective lol! I actually have tons of other categories and sub categories that I can think of, but I’m hoping you would add on to this list and let me know your own POVs… I am just hoping that they can continue on making these places a safe space and not like as judgmental as it is becoming.
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	The moderator deleted my post. Dunno why but I believe I did not enter any sexually explicit words, or vulgar statements that can jeopardize the provider’s job or life. Just DM me for deets people
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	This guy is not on rentmasseur, or rentmen and masseurfinder. I believe he works in a massage center. I just discovered him while I’m searching for a male massage therapist here in Seattle while I’m on my vacation, seriously considering for another session before I go back to my reality in Jersey. Trust me, the session I got is what I would call “expect the unexpected”. That’s one of the massages that I will never forget. PS the original link was scrapped after the moderator temporarily deleted my post. I won’t repost the link, or even state the name because I don’t want to be accused of anything allegedly indecent. Maybe you can just DM me for details, assuming that’s not prohibited. 🙃
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	@luvhusky, no, only female masseuses. And old asian ladies too. As for the quality of their massage: 4/10. I’ve had way better. Think of Crystal as a bathhouse with steam, scrub room and sleeping room that converts into the F room. Fun room. Are we clear? I am still, up to this date, trying to find a men spa or even just a regular spa with male masseurs in NJ that relieves “tension” *wink wink*. I still go to NYC or worst, long island to find decent men spas. To my fellow Jersey ho*s out there, may you realize that gate keeping won’t be beneficial especially for the masseurs who need extra income lol. And I know some would say rent men or rentmasseur or masseur finder like yes I know, it’s just that there’s a difference in finding a men spa and booking a private session in a studio… there’s a thrill factor difference..
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	My first attempt supposedly at Cherish today. more context: Their place when I got there was locked, but the open signage was blinking. No doorbell at all so I messaged them. You can checkout my messages with time stamps. I even had a chat with a client who’s supposed to walk in. He said he’s just 10 mins away from the place and he’s a frequent client. He mentioned that he likes to always get the asian guy Allen. And when I asked how many masseurs are in this spa, he said he’s not sure, but not all masseurs are asians, he saw other ethnicities like an arab guy. I’m guessing they’re not full time therapists, but works upon request. When I asked if they are usually like this, the client said no, they are usually open. Well besides the fact that there’s an open sign, the place looks like closed, blacked out by white curtains and black plaster on the door, so you really can’t see what’s inside. The client said maybe because it’s labor day, I told him no, I’ve been texting somebody with their spa number for the past hour. He left because it took too long. Time I was at the door 3:36pm, time I left 4:23pm. And the guy replied around 5:20 saying “available”.. WTF? based on reviews, this so called foot spa sorely lacks in customer service. so I went to Prime instead, and got Lawrence for the first time. He is cute, like a kpop boyband member if he works out. I believe he likes to be on top… of his massage skills because it shows on how long… and patient he was working on my… body. He lacks initiating sensuality in his routine, making me think that he’s straight. Anyway, I know hiding somewhere is a user in this topic that’s affiliated with Cherish, so whoever you are, I don’t know what game you played with me today, I keep on knocking and texting you but for some reason, you wanted to drive me away the moment I stepped foot at your door. And to other users, don’t you girls dare say “oh he keeps on texting them multiple times that’s why they got annoyed” like hunny, what a top notch way of handling customer care. Anyway, there are tons of other men spa options. Enjoy catering to your Long island clients 👍
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	I asked Prime about Adam, and they said he just accepts body hair removal appointments. So weird because saw here someone reviewed him that he’s good at working out knots. And he has schedule at times in Flushing by himself whenever I check their IG. I mean I’m interested in trimming or waxing too 🤣 as long as Adam would be actually worth the try…
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	Says no longer available on rentmen, maybe fake?
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	You and me both 🤣 if it’s like female masseurs there are tons, even the sketchy ones run by middle aged asian women 🤦♂️😆
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	Just had Nelson today, well, ok, I would say he’s now my top MT. Then second place would be a tie between Kurt and Timmy. Nelson knows what a good massage is, I just had to make a few moves for the rest of it. But yeah, he really would cater to your needs. Timmy still is the cutest/most handsome for me, saw him earlier in Franklin Only Adam left on my list lol.
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	I get your point. Like to make it short, stop being rude in this forum. Some responses here are even validating the mean girl dynamics that’s happening in what’s supposedly a safe space for us just looking out for fun or connection. It cost nothing to be kind to others.
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	If I have enough money, why not? If he feels like his worth is 1k for an hour then kudos to his confidence. I’ve seen some of his clips and he looks like a decent pornstar. I’m from the Philippines, and some gay sugar daddies (we don’t call them that back there) are even offering more than that for high end escorts, some even reaching to 1M (Php) or like 50 plus grand here, or like material stuff like cars or condos, and considering that’s a third world country, and the guy in the topic is way hotter compared to the high end escorts we have back there. So I think it’s a matter of how you think your worth is. Not as a whole person per se, but in terms of your physical appearance being marketable.
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