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Long and short is I don’t think guys are honest.

The question really is what is a fair price. And attitude goes a long way to deciding what’s fair. If a guy is respectful, I’m more than willing to compensate fairly. Just don’t try to gouge me and also don’t try to make me think that your overnight rate of $2500 is somehow fair. For 8 hrs…or less in some cases. It’s an expensive hobby, to be sure, but there are limits as well. And there’s also an entitlement among some escorts that clients somehow owe them. As if they’re doing the client a favor by taking payment. I can’t say that for my regulars, thank God, but there are plenty who act or talk like they’re so put out by a client wanting something substantial from them for his money. Don’t advertise a BFE if you just want to fuck and leave.

I was telling another friend who hires that I find it disingenuous when a provider says his goal is to make a guy happy. Not really. His goal is to make money. And the most money possible for the least amount of work and time possible. That’s perfectly fine. And acceptable. But let’s cut the crap. My goal is to have the most pleasure possible for the least amount of money possible. If everyone were honest and respectful about our intentions, then things would be better. I saw an ad today that said “There's nothing better than turning strangers into lovers.” Honey – you and I both know we’re never going to be lovers…Stop wasting my time with empty words. George Bailey promised the moon and only delivered on a drafty old house…When he accepted that and the reality of his actual life, he realized he had a wonderful life. He stopped living and wishing for a fantasy. We’re adults here and hopefully respectful. If we can’t accept that escorts want to make money and clients want to have a good time, if we want to think something else is going on, then we’re all delusional.

@pubic_assistancedoes seem to have quite a few posts on this forum that are disparaging toward overweight and obese folks, health concerns notwithstanding. It seems almost like he’s prejudiced against them…

Who is he? And what did he publish?

Well, he’s one expert. Other experts have been all over the news etc. saying that healthy people can get it and die. So he’s got one opinion among many. You value his. There are others. By his definition if anyone dies of anything biological they’re not healthy because they succumbed to it. That simply doesn’t make sense. Healthy people get infected with diseases and succumb. It’s unfortunate but it’s true. I’m curious who this published immunologist is. Can you share what his name and what he’s published?

I advocate sanity, but I’m not about to say that someone who is by all accounts healthy can’t succumb to COVID. We need to be reasonable here. Extremes don’t aren’t reflective of reality. Healthy people can get COVID and die. While unhealthy people can avoid COVID altogether. It’s really not hard. And it’s definitely not an all-or-nothing situation, either for mitigation or normal life. Life has been changed by COVID, but we needs to go on living with it. But we have to admit that anyone, and likely everyone, will get it and potentially have complicating factors that precipitate their death to it.

Discussion goes a long way. 👍🏻

Agreed. And that’s what I was saying from my experience. I have done it and it wasn’t appreciated and there was no benefit. I don’t see any reason why there can’t be an agreement about what it means. Maybe it is just a tip. Maybe it’s not. For me, having done it, it wasn’t an equitable arrangement for me. If I felt it were appreciated or that there was some benefit to me, then I could entertain it. At this point, I feel like it’s not the best way for me to show appreciation. A tip is a tip. But RM sponsorship, from my experience, isn’t a beneficial to the client. No shit any arrangement, financial or otherwise, is beneficial to the provider if there are no strings/expectations/arrangements attached. If it’s just a sponsorship with no expectations, how could it be anything but positive? It seems to me the question should be, “Is RM sponsorship worth it if there are expectations?” @FTL– If a provider isn’t going out of his way for you for consistently going above and beyond and treating you like any other client who wouldn’t go above and beyond, then I feel that’s unethical, or at least entitled. I can tell you I appreciate what you do for me and not really. I can say the sky is green too if it means it benefits me, especially if it doesn’t cost me anything more than saying the sky is green. As long as you’re paying and he doesn’t have to do more, why wouldn’t he keep up such an arrangement?

@Dante– why the eye roll? Should a client just fork over more cash for nothing in return? Are clients here for the pleasure of escorts? It seems perfectly reasonable that I’d expect something if I’m paying. Don’t you think? Something in return for my money? Enlighten me where there’s a flaw in my logic.

I did it a few times for the same guy. In the end, I don’t think it was a beneficial relationship for me. That might be because I wasn’t upfront at the beginning about what it meant that I was sponsoring him. If…if I did it again, I would lay out the expectations of what it means, particularly as it comes to bear on other appointments etc. and his rates or frequency or preference for time with me. If…

On an unrelated note, I know of a guy in my area, a sex offender in fact, who takes out multiple ads. I too have often wondered how it works for him. He’s a con, to be sure, but it must be lucrative or else he wouldn’t keep doing it. Unless he’s that warped he enjoys just toying with prospective clients because we’re gay.

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Actually…I think it was @MscleLovrwho pointed out there are jobs for the taking, in both the USA and UK. Perhaps not ones where you can make multiple thousands of dollars for a few hours of work, but there are plenty of jobs out there available for those who want them. The question is whether sex workers would want to take on a different kind of work.

Abstinence is a step if you’re not protected. Until which time you can get vaccinated or the threat is decreased. It’s spreading because people aren’t abstaining despite not taking and steps to protect themselves or others. Is the need for sex that great that folks here will say to hell with safety and blare ahead? Can’t we wait until the vaccine is more widely available? There’s no difference between abstinence and social distancing and isolation because of COVID.

What the actual fuck…So we’ll travel all the way to Montreal but we won’t stop fucking. Noted.

I will likely be vaccinated before my next sexual encounter. I’m not in any rush because I don’t plan on engaging in risky behavior, sexual or otherwise. The fact that guys are willing to risk the behavior despite the evidence is what is more upsetting to me than the response of the government. Just wait til the vaccine is more widely available – as we’re told it will be in the next few weeks. Are guys that desperate to get their dicks wet they’ll risk getting a unpleasant illness? Mind boggling…

Nope. That was the whole ad.

Right. But if the ad consists solely or primarily of direction to OF…as above. This doesn’t do anything for me to know about compatibility. It says to me, “I don’t care who you are or what you’re looking for. Give me your money.”

I don’t think I’d like it. My mind would constantly be thinking of them as brothers. I could potentially do two unrelated guys if they were each focused on me and not each other if I’m paying but even that runs the risk of going unwell.

This is the kind of ad text that makes me say “pass.” Note: if you'd like to see more pics/vids of me I have a free Only Fans page and fully uncensored Only Fans page with 100+ videos of me fucking/getting fucked, showing off, getting off, playing with my ass/cock, etc. Links are in my Twitter bio too It seems to me that the whole RM ad then is about driving business to OF and a Twitter following, which is probably also attempting to get you to go to OF and ultimately subscribe. To me, if this is (or the like) is the biggest or first part of a guy’s ad on RM, he’s not serious about providing escort services. And sadly there’s more and more of this on RM these days.

“The US is poorly prepared to deal with new pathogens or even old ones that surface in the US” – that is one thing. “The US is losing the fight” is click-baity. The article wasn’t simply saying “the US is poorly prepared to deal with new pathogens or even old ones that surface in the US.” It was also attempting, by means of emotionally charged language in the title and opening lines, to create a mood of unease. Now – we can say a certain level of unease is warranted in the face of poor disease management. But saying “the US is losing the fight” sets us up for an all-or-nothing-war mentality. And it raises the stakes to a level that, given what I’ve seen at least, doesn’t seem to justify such worry. On an tangentially related note, are you suggesting that the word of high profile posters here in this forum are reason enough to shape my opinion on matters of health and preventive medicine? This is an escorting forum, not a medicine forum. People are getting vaccinated for monkeypox in the states with issues, but it is not necessary to go to Canada. That is an extreme measure. One that folks can happily resort to, but not necessary. You can get vaccinated in the United States. I plan to. I also don’t plan on having interactions that are high risk. But I’m aware there is still risk. Either way, none of that has any bearing on the relative profile level of posters on this escorting forum and what they have to say. Not to malign anyone’s status, but it doesn’t.

I’m saying… 1. Be smart. Get educated. Don’t do stupid shit that is known to increase factors. 2. Take necessary precautions, such as getting vaxxed. 3. Accept there’s still some risk. 4. Don’t succumb to hysteria. Monkeypox is not an imminent threat to humanity, especially if you follow the above. You don’t need to be a medical professional or scientist to know that. The pox viruses aren’t novel like COVID was.

Makes me think of the tree-hugging antivaxxers in the Pacific Northwest. Now we have measles outbreaks up there when we didn’t before. People’s behavior coupled with stupidity makes for a host of problems for us all. And then add media hysteria and you have a powder keg for reactivity.