Well...THATS a Record

[+ José Soplanucas]

We are in the USA and the mainstream model does not include negotiation. However, if you have traveled the world, I am sure you learned it is not an universal model. Bargaining prices is imbedded in the market practices of many cultures around the world. And some subcultures here in the States, even if they are marginal.

If the professional proposes a negotiation, depending on the circumstances, I have no problem getting into it. I do recognize there is a tiny line between negotiating and hassling.

Even if we have our preferences, in an unregulated industry like ours, we should be open to some "out of the norm" standards. As I said a thousand times before, there are very few absolutes, there are always many aspects to consider in each particular situation, the final decision depends on a combination of a wide array of circumstances.

[Jock123]

We are in the USA and the mainstream model does not include negotiation. However, if you have traveled the world, I am sure you learned it is not an universal model. Bargaining prices is imbedded in the market practices of many cultures around the world. And some subcultures here in the States, even if they are marginal.

If the professional proposes a negotiation, depending on the circumstances, I have no problem getting into it. I do recognize there is a tiny line between negotiating and hassling.

Even if we have our preferences, in an unregulated industry like ours, we should be open to some "out of the norm" standards. As I said a thousand times before, there are very few absolutes, there are always many aspects to consider in each particular situation, the final decision depends on a combination of a wide array of circumstances.

 

 

It is a Buyers market. Plain and simple. Therefore I believe You HAVE to sometimes swallow your pride( I just said swallowo_O) and accept a lower rate.

 

 

Here's a fun fact. If an Escort likes You, You are consistent with following through on Appointments, Chemistry is great etc...There is 99% Certainty that said Escort will go the Extra mile with You. Whether It's reducing his rate's. Seeing You for a longer period of time at a Reduced rate. Or other "Extras" I take care of my Regulars. And you know what? Now that I think about it I dont think one of them has ever asked me to do them a Favor, I Just do it to show my Appreciation.

 

 

HOWEVER If we have never met before. And you send me some Sassy email like "Your rates are too rich for my Blood, I got a guy who I see for half Your price. You need to come down on Your rate and then I'll consider It" ........I wont even respond. If we arent "Vibeing" In an Email chances are we wont Vibe In person. And I'd rather not go through the Torture for a few Hundred bucks.

 

 

Gentleman. I'm going to let You all on a Little Secret. Escorting is NOT easy money. Sure some have made Hundred's of Thousands doing it. But everything comes with a Price. Us Escorts deal with a TON of Bullshit whether It's Via Text, Email or In Person. Especially the past few Years. The number of Trolls out these days is only Increasing......

 

 

So we are more than happy to offer a Discount with people whom we trust and connect with.

[MikeyGMin]

Gentleman. I'm going to let You all on a Little Secret. Escorting is NOT easy money.

I think any semi-intelligent client recognizes that escorting is not easy money. It can be fast money in that a young man can make a large amount of money without the many years spent building a career in a more traditional line of work. Being a looks based industry, your prime income years are actually early instead of later in your career.

 

Anyone who thinks it's easy is a fool. First and foremost you need to have the unique ability to be fun and sexy with men who are generally not your type. Then there is the drudgery of scheduling which requires weeding through all kinds of weirdos, flakes and downright hostile people. Finally, there is the inherent physical risk that you must manage and minimize.

 

It can be good money but it definitely ain't easy money.

[LaffingBear]

Gentleman. I'm going to let You all on a Little Secret. Escorting is NOT easy money.

 

What do you know that is, universally, easy money?

 

Even inheriting money can be hell, depending on the family situation.

 

Whatever the industry, whatever the vocation.... there are people who appear to have an easier path. To skate, even. And there are people who seem, no matter what, to always get the fuzzy side of the lollipop.

 

There are probably escorts who ran an ad, met a multi-millionaire month one, became exclusive, and they're raking it in. And there are probably very talented, beautiful guys, hustling their asses off in high-cost markets, who can barely keep afloat.

 

There are studies that, in most industries, people fitting society's standards for attractiveness, do better. More money, faster promotions, just easier, etc. As a result, some clients may assume an easier road for escorts. However, escorts, models, actors - where the field is already populated by "beautiful" people - might not enjoy that advantage.

[MiamiLooker]

There needs to be a "Review" site for Clients.

 

What would be the objective of a client review site? If you want to alert other escorts of flakes, why not just email those advertising in the area where you’re encountering the flakes with the info?

[+ sync]

This was his email Verbatim "I mean you're good looking but there are alot of good looking guy's out there. I have a guy who charges me $29.95 per hour and sometimes he enjoys his work so much hell see me for free. If you want to reconsider Ill think about it".

 

This gentleman needs to switch to the decaf covfefe.

[Mydavid]

I never expect my regulars lower their rates for me. I pay what I think it is worth. I won't stay just because they lower their rates, but I will leave if they lower their service quality.

[LaffingBear]

I pay what I think it is worth.

What does that mean?

[Mydavid]

What does that mean?

If I think I will go to him unless he lowers his rates, I won't go. If I go repeatedly, it means I accept his rates.

[LaffingBear]

If I think I will go to him unless he lowers his rates, I won't go. If I go repeatedly, it means I accept his rates.

So.... if it meets your value assessment in advance, you'll hire him.

 

I thought you'd figured out some pay for performance system.... and that when finished, you might say to a guy

"Well, that wasn't as great as I hoped, so Im going to pay less"

[MassageDrew]

I do appreciate the work escorts/masseurs do to make me feel relaxed and pampered. I don't mind paying the stated fee and even add a tip. I just avoid the ones with inconsistent ads. I contacted a masseur last year who had an ad on RM listing $175 for a 60 minutes. Then I came across his MF ad listing a slightly higher price. Nonetheless, I decided to contact him. Unfortunately, he gave me a totally different fee from his two ads when I asked for it. I walked away.

[Mydavid]

So.... if it meets your value assessment in advance, you'll hire him.

 

I thought you'd figured out some pay for performance system.... and that when finished, you might say to a guy

"Well, that wasn't as great as I hoped, so Im going to pay less"

Good point! but No, I was talking about regulars. So if it isn't worth, they are not my regulars.

[sincitymix]

9 Cancellations this week....yes You've read that right. I had NINE people flake on me.

 

3 went MIA the day of us meeting..not responding to Texts etc

 

3 "Claimed" to be on their way with my Address, Only to not show up. One guy even went as far as saying "Hey man was Rearended by another car...sorry!"

 

etc etc.

 

Sure you could chalk this up as It being something I've said/done. But I am 100% certain that's not the case. I was 100% polite the entire time, answered questions...great reviews etc etc.

 

 

I've said this YEARS ago now but if it werent for my regulars... 1. I'd had been Homeless. 2. I would have loss my sanity. Its my REGULARS who remind me that not only of my Time being Valuable, but why I enjoy the business at times(Great connections/conversations)

 

 

This Texting/App culture we are In is Watering down escorting. And how people communicate with us.

 

 

There needs to be a "Review" site for Clients. I can gurantee had the shoes been on the other Foot people would be Bitching to Hell and High Water and posting reviews about it.

 

 

One thing I cant stand is my time being wasted....Period.

well i certainly wouldnt stand you up.. shame my fingers cant click on a link to your ad :P

[LADoug1]

9 Cancellations this week....yes You've read that right. I had NINE people flake on me.

 

3 went MIA the day of us meeting..not responding to Texts etc

 

3 "Claimed" to be on their way with my Address, Only to not show up. One guy even went as far as saying "Hey man was Rearended by another car...sorry!"

 

etc etc.

 

Sure you could chalk this up as It being something I've said/done. But I am 100% certain that's not the case. I was 100% polite the entire time, answered questions...great reviews etc etc.

 

 

I've said this YEARS ago now but if it werent for my regulars... 1. I'd had been Homeless. 2. I would have loss my sanity. Its my REGULARS who remind me that not only of my Time being Valuable, but why I enjoy the business at times(Great connections/conversations)

 

 

This Texting/App culture we are In is Watering down escorting. And how people communicate with us.

 

 

There needs to be a "Review" site for Clients. I can gurantee had the shoes been on the other Foot people would be Bitching to Hell and High Water and posting reviews about it.

 

 

One thing I cant stand is my time being wasted....Period.

Maybe the client was actually rear ended by another escort!

[JetBlack]

I was involved in an accident on my way to a client once. I felt so bad since he probably thought I was flaking on him.

[Guest]

It is a Buyers market. Plain and simple. Therefore I believe You HAVE to sometimes swallow your pride( I just said swallowo_O) and accept a lower rate.

 

 

Here's a fun fact. If an Escort likes You, You are consistent with following through on Appointments, Chemistry is great etc...There is 99% Certainty that said Escort will go the Extra mile with You. Whether It's reducing his rate's. Seeing You for a longer period of time at a Reduced rate. Or other "Extras" I take care of my Regulars. And you know what? Now that I think about it I dont think one of them has ever asked me to do them a Favor, I Just do it to show my Appreciation.

 

 

HOWEVER If we have never met before. And you send me some Sassy email like "Your rates are too rich for my Blood, I got a guy who I see for half Your price. You need to come down on Your rate and then I'll consider It" ........I wont even respond. If we arent "Vibeing" In an Email chances are we wont Vibe In person. And I'd rather not go through the Torture for a few Hundred bucks.

 

 

Gentleman. I'm going to let You all on a Little Secret. Escorting is NOT easy money. Sure some have made Hundred's of Thousands doing it. But everything comes with a Price. Us Escorts deal with a TON of Bullshit whether It's Via Text, Email or In Person. Especially the past few Years. The number of Trolls out these days is only Increasing......

 

 

So we are more than happy to offer a Discount with people whom we trust and connect with.

 

Exactly the same way I think. If a "client" is being so hostile before you even meet, chances are he's either not real and will flake or the session will be not fun at all. Its best to just avoid them completely and not engage in back and forth mess and waste even more of your time. Us escorts go through much more than you think, I know most escorts don't like to share it as its "taboo" on here. I do vent sometimes but even that isn't a quarter of the problems i go through while escorting. For those regulars who have stuck by me, its not even a job with them, its just a fun time we have together and for them sticking by me they get perks subconsciously, like just staying longer more than what they hired for.

[+ oldNbusted]

Exactly the same way I think. If a "client" is being so hostile before you even meet, chances are he's either not real and will flake or the session will be not fun at all. Its best to just avoid them completely and not engage in back and forth mess and waste even more of your time. Us escorts go through much more than you think, I know most escorts don't like to share it as its "taboo" on here. I do vent sometimes but even that isn't a quarter of the problems i go through while escorting. For those regulars who have stuck by me, its not even a job with them, its just a fun time we have together and for them sticking by me they get perks subconsciously, like just staying longer more than what they hired for.

 

 

I can't imagine what it is like. As I wrote in another thread, escorts have to put themselves out there in a way I never could. I am grateful for the guys who have been willing to spend time with me, even if it didn't work out in the long run.

 

I have no idea what a client is thinking when acting difficult? I want to try to make our interactions as smooth as I can given my tendency to overfocus. I want a provider to look forward to our time together. I'm not looking for a human fleshlight, I'm looking for the BFE fantasy role play experience, and I've learned this requires a lot more talent than just the physical. I don't see how that works if the person I'm spending time with is wondering if I'm going to pop off with some BS from left field because I was randomly acting hostile prior to meeting.