SOWING MY SEED FOR LOVE

[DesertFox]

RE: less than 24 hours left

 

$2000.00 for Matt

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: less than 24 hours left

 

Hey guys,

I have been trying to find out... but I simply cannot figure it out.

Only few hours left... and I have no idea in what time zone Daddy's clock is? Pacific standard? Easter... whatever?

 

HELP!!

 

I want to be here when everything ends, and share the excitement...

I will be around and hopefully someone will be able to let me know...

Thanks!

[VaHawk]

DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

Can't wait to find out who the big winner(s) is/are!

 

I'm not criticizing the escorts, so much as the bidders, as I'm sure the escorts will follow thru when proof is attained that the donation has been made. Perhaps, I would be more persuaded if the escorts had taken private bids, rather than creating a public spectacle with these "open bids".

 

IMO, most of the bidders are playing with "monopoly money", especially those who are relative "newbies" to the mc, in a "look at me, I'm special" bid for attention. Since you are bidding with "play" money, there is nothing to hold you to your "pretend" bid, as if you don't pay, the auctioned goods will work its way down the list to the next highest bid that does pay.

 

I guess I'm the only one who finds this "game playing" offensive. I think it is offensive to the victims of the tsunami, to use them in this game, and I think it is offensive to every victim who has ever been "auctioned" into servitude in the past and in the present. Some of those presently being auctioned into servitude are the very victims of this tragedy, young boys and girls, who have been orphaned, and have found themselves kidnapped and sold into sexual servitude to the highest bidder. Laugh at that, while you put in your bid!

 

Just curious. Do any of the "losing" bidders plan to donate the amount of their "losing" bid to the tsunami relief effort, since they would have spent that much if they had won the bid? Do that and provide proof of doing so, then this whole sham by the bidders, might mean something.

[+ deej]

RE: less than 24 hours left

 

PST.

[Chuck50]

RE: less than 24 hours left

 

Make that 2050 for Matt

[Boston Guy]

RE: DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

It seems clear to me, at least, that you have little experience in the real world of fundraising. This kind of auction is usually viewed with very positively, because:

 

* The ultimate charity -- in this case, the Tsunami effort -- receives the benefit of funds that may well not otherwise have been donated; so a worthy cause benefits

 

* The auction encourages higher than normal donations, through a sense of fun and good-spirited competition

 

* The participants benefit, through the enjoyment of participating, through helping a worthy cause, through a tax-deductible contribution to charity, and just the fun of being part of something with like-minded civic souls.

 

* The government -- meaing, in this case, the US government -- benefits because one of its stated objectives is being met: the support of worthy causes by citizens. If the government did not view this as a worthwhile endeavor and something to encourage, the tax deduction for charitable contributions would be eliminated.

 

In short, it's a win-win-win-win activity. The only people who seem not to win are those who want to find something mean-spirited in the whole thing.

 

I find nothing whatsoever objectionable in trying to raise money this way for a worthy cause and I commend Matt and Juan for doing so. They've found a way to use their own time to leverage larger contributions to the Tsunami effort than they might have felt comfortable making on their own. If they have reaped publicity from it, good. It's the American way... you really don't think that the corporate sponsors of every worthwhile cause in the country are spending their money for totally altruistic reasons, do you??

 

And I'd wager a bet that if you were to ask any of the victims of the Tsunami if this was a good idea, with the choice being more money going to their effort or not, you wouldn't find many who'd reject the funds.

 

And, finally, I don't see anyone here putting down or in any way disparaging the Tsunami victims or the relief effort. Quite the contrary.

 

BG

[digicamman]

RE: less than 24 hours left

 

This post has been taken off line temporarily pending investigation. The poster may or may not be next.

[+ deej]

RE: DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

>It's the American way...

 

... being exemplified by two Canadians! :9

 

Well said, BG.

[PacNW]

RE: DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

VaHawk,

 

You are making assumptions regarding people you know nothing about, which is never a way of gaining credibility. What preconceived notions do you have about the bidders on this site that prevent you from thinking us sincere? Why are you so convinced without any evidence that these bids are “bid(s) for attention” rather than commitments to a cause? Why particularly are the “relative newbies” more suspect than anyone else?

 

I stated in my very first post, this is what got me to stop lurking and start posting. In the couple of weeks prior to that I’d decided it was time to do so, but I was giving some thought to how best to introduce myself. This was during cardholder’s lambasting on some other thread for being an upstart newbie, so I considered an obsequious thanks to Hoo and all (most) of the posters here on the MC. Instead, this auction came up and it felt like the right way of making an entrance.

 

Beyond that, it focused my thinking on how exactly I wanted to donate to do a part for tsunami relief. I had donated small sums, but had yet to make a decision as to how much and how I was going to make my major one. I figured how much my budget could afford, what I wanted to bid relative to the escort’s rate, and what I was going to do win or lose. And the details of that, sir, are none of your goddamn business.

 

Now we’ve reached the jaw-dropping hypocrisy of your post. You’ve unilaterally decided the escorts are grandstanding and should be taking private bids, and the game players are being offensive to the tsunami victims, and now we’re supposed to give you proof of our actions or else the whole thing will be meaningless?!? Who the hell appointed you guardian of all that is good and pure?

 

As I pointed out a few days ago, mixed motives are a part of human nature, so I can’t begin to guess at all of yours. One thread of them can be easily deduced from your gleeful opening statement from your January 8th post: “One in every crowd, so let me be the one!” No, there doesn’t have to be a person like that. And if it were required, nothing says you are obligated to take on that role. You’ve been given plenty of other ways to look at this but you’re so enamored of your misery that you couldn’t possibly look at the situation in a way that might be positive. I’ll never know how bad your life has been to get a chip that size on your shoulder, and thw world might be a better place if you’d find some way to get rid of it, but in the meantime, just take it someplace else.

[VaHawk]

RE: DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

>VaHawk,

>

>You are making assumptions regarding people you know nothing

>about, which is never a way of gaining credibility. What

>preconceived notions do you have about the bidders on this

>site that prevent you from thinking us sincere? Why are you so

>convinced without any evidence that these bids are “bid(s) for

>attention” rather than commitments to a cause? Why

>particularly are the “relative newbies” more suspect than

>anyone else?

 

You only need to read the postings.

>

>I stated in my very first post, this is what got me to stop

>lurking and start posting.

 

Well good for you. Feel better now?

 

>Instead, this

>auction came up and it felt like the right way of making an

>entrance.

 

In TRUE Diva fashion, no less!

>

>Beyond that, it focused my thinking on how exactly I wanted to

>donate to do a part for tsunami relief. I had donated small

>sums, but had yet to make a decision as to how much and how I

>was going to make my major one. I figured how much my budget

>could afford, what I wanted to bid relative to the escort’s

>rate, and what I was going to do win or lose. And the details

>of that, sir, are none of your goddamn business.

 

Wow, welcome to HOOVILLE, as you'll fit in just fine. I would post what I think of you and your attitude but then again, that would be NONE OF YOUR GODDAM BUSINESS, would it?

>

>Now we’ve reached the jaw-dropping hypocrisy of your post.

>You’ve unilaterally decided the escorts are grandstanding and

>should be taking private bids, and the game players are being

>offensive to the tsunami victims, and now we’re supposed to

>give you proof of our actions or else the whole thing will be

>meaningless?!? Who the hell appointed you guardian of all that

>is good and pure?

 

And who the hell appointed you the spokesman of what is righteous, true and acceptable?

>

>As I pointed out a few days ago, mixed motives are a part of

>human nature, so I can’t begin to guess at all of yours. One

>thread of them can be easily deduced from your gleeful opening

>statement from your January 8th post: “One in every crowd, so

>let me be the one!” No, there doesn’t have to be a person like

>that. And if it were required, nothing says you are obligated

>to take on that role. You’ve been given plenty of other ways

>to look at this but you’re so enamored of your misery that you

>couldn’t possibly look at the situation in a way that might be

>positive. I’ll never know how bad your life has been to get a

>chip that size on your shoulder, and thw world might be a

>better place if you’d find some way to get rid of it, but in

>the meantime, just take it someplace else.

 

But yet, all this self-posturing, psyco-babbling bullshit, means that you are that rarest of all beasts, the self-appointed, internet, psychoanalyst, right? And you, in turn, can take that psychobabbling, bullshit attitude someplace else. Back to the bat cave, Robin!

[VaHawk]

RE: DRRUUUUMMMM ROOOLLLLL THE WINNER IS?

 

And all this time, I thought Proctor Gamble owned the exclusive rights to soap boxes.

 

>* The participants benefit, through the enjoyment of

>participating, through helping a worthy cause, through a

>tax-deductible contribution to charity, and just the fun of

>being part of something with like-minded civic souls.

 

Please! I enjoy the old minstrel shows, so it is okay to have a fund raising event of white dudes decked out in black face, singing Mammy, Carry Me Back to Ole Virginny, My Sweet Kentucky Home and other wonderful nostalgic songs? I would benefit from the personal joy of participating, help a worthy cause, get a charitable tax deduction and get to have FUN with like-minded civic souls.

 

>And, finally, I don't see anyone here putting down or in any

>way disparaging the Tsunami victims or the relief effort.

>Quite the contrary.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is different than yours, and has been stated often enough, that it is not necessary to restate it in this post.

[SAdler]

RE: This is awesome guys.

 

LOL. Thank you flower. Bidding is not open yet. Let me make sure the goods are up to par and I can advertise appropriately. I think I at least deserve my own thread Keep your eyes peeled.

[+ deej]

CONGRATS TO THE WINNERS!

 

Chuck: $2050 for Matt

Packy: $1700 for Juan

 

CONGRATS TO THE LOSERS!

 

$0 for VAHawk

 

Nothing good can come from keeping this thread open, so I'm closing it. Find someplace else to poop, Hawk.

 

BIG THANKS TO MATT AND JUAN! You guys truly do have goodness in your souls. It's a shame some people can't appreciate that.