Buyer (And Seller) Beware

[SteelFan]

I've hired once in the past month. This was the only time I had any sort sexual encounter in the past month. All I did was suck a dick. I wake up the next day with a sore throat. Sore throat does not go away. I go to the doctor, tell him about said sexual encounter, he swabs my throat and tests for gonorrhea, and test comes back positive.

 

I come to find out that most men are asymptomatic when it comes to chlamydia and gonorrhea, I just happen to be in the minority that is not asymptomatic. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia infections are on the rise and are very common. Syphilis is on the rise as well. It sucks that these infections spread thru oral, but sucking a dick is something I will never give up and I will NEVER use a condom when doing oral. What's the point in sucking a dick if its covered in rubber?

 

Between escorts and clients, and how often we all rotate turns, we will probably be constantly passing these diseases around. I suppose I shall be seeing the doctor more regularly.

[+ glennnn]

I've hired once in the past month. This was the only time I had any sort sexual encounter in the past month. All I did was suck a dick. I wake up the next day with a sore throat. Sore throat does not go away. I go to the doctor, tell him about said sexual encounter, he swabs my throat and tests for gonorrhea, and test comes back positive.

 

I come to find out that most men are asymptomatic when it comes to chlamydia and gonorrhea, I just happen to be in the minority that is not asymptomatic. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia infections are on the rise and are very common. Syphilis is on the rise as well. It sucks that these infections spread thru oral, but sucking a dick is something I will never give up and I will NEVER use a condom when doing oral. What's the point in sucking a dick if its covered in rubber?

 

Between escorts and clients, and how often we all rotate turns, we will probably be constantly passing these diseases around. I suppose I shall be seeing the doctor more regularly.

 

 

So sorry for your trouble, but I agree with you. I'll never stop sucking cock and I'll never use a condom. So, what's the treatment and prognosis?

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

OP I think you woke up with a case of throat gonorrhea. They should also give you antibiotics for chlamydia just in case. This is the problem with glorifying sexual promiscuity on TV. It neglects the fact that, in real-life, there is a thing called sexually transmitted diseases, and they suck (no pun intended).

 

Also, I don't want to be a downer, but gonorrhea is becoming harder to treat. The virus is beginning to develop resistance to the treatment we use. I would say that if you catch gonorrhea again, you may want to be extra cautious. Let us hope the medical community find a solution to this son of bitch (the gonorrhea virus) becoming more stubborn. The last thing we need is one less curable STD.

 

That's why everyone should get tested regardless of how sexually active or inactive they are. Gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV, herpes, and other diseases can all be transmitted orally. HIV is still the devil, but it's not the only demon, and other demons can pass from one person to another much more easily.

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

This was the only time I had any sort sexual encounter in the past month. All I did was suck a dick. .

 

If you don't mind me asking, did he ejaculate in your mouth? I'm just wondering if you could transmit gonorrhea with no ejaculation.

[Becket]

If you don't mind me asking, did he ejaculate in your mouth?

 

Was wondering the same, if we're not too brazenly bad mannered in asking such a thing.

[sincitymix]

If you don't mind me asking, did he ejaculate in your mouth? I'm just wondering if you could transmit gonorrhea with no ejaculation.

something tells me he got a good mouthfull

I believe it is possible to get gonorrhea without ejaculation. precum can contain stds too.

[+ quoththeraven]

something tells me he got a good mouthfull

I believe it is possible to get gonorrhea without ejaculation. precum can contain stds too.

 

That suggests it is not possible if the guy doesn't produce precum.

 

Also, can someone tell me which term is used more by medical professionals and journals: STD or STI? Or are they considered interchangeable?

[kewtex]

Also, can someone tell me which term is used more by medical professionals and journals: STD or STI? Or are they considered interchangeable?

 

Click this link for an explanation of the two terms: https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/std-and-sti-whats-the-difference/.

 

STI (sexually transmitted infection) is becoming more common than STD (sexually transmitted disease), as those with an infection do not always develop, or clinically present, signs and symptoms of the disease.

[+ quoththeraven]

Click this link for an explanation of the two terms: https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/std-and-sti-whats-the-difference/.

 

STI (sexually transmitted infection) is becoming more common than STD (sexually transmitted disease), as those with an infection do not always develop, or clinically present, signs and symptoms of the disease.

 

Thanks! I thought STI was the more current term, but I hadn't thought about the clinical difference between infections and diseases, as opposed to the difference in connotation (neutral vs. negative).

[kewtex]

Thanks! I thought STI was the more current term, but I hadn't thought about the clinical difference between infections and diseases, as opposed to the difference in connotation (neutral vs. negative).

 

You're welcome. I had not thought about the neutral vs. negative connotation of the two abbreviations. You make a valid point.

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

something tells me he got a good mouthfull

I believe it is possible to get gonorrhea without ejaculation. precum can contain stds too.

 

Yeah I know. I guess my question was whether anything came out of the escort's penis, whether a load or precum.

[jimboivyo]

all of these things will be on the rise thanks to folks thinking prep is the answer to everything

 

condoms still serve their purpose

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

all of these things will be on the rise thanks to folks thinking prep is the answer to everything

 

condoms still serve their purpose

 

This very much! I don't understand why people don't educate themselves on STDs. I understand that lust is hard to control, but take risks and you may not have sex again. I always tell people that yes, you have more fun without condoms, but this may be the last you'll ever have fun. So you either put a rubber on it, or risk not seeing it again.

[marylander1940]

I've hired once in the past month. This was the only time I had any sort sexual encounter in the past month. All I did was suck a dick. I wake up the next day with a sore throat. Sore throat does not go away. I go to the doctor, tell him about said sexual encounter, he swabs my throat and tests for gonorrhea, and test comes back positive.

 

I come to find out that most men are asymptomatic when it comes to chlamydia and gonorrhea, I just happen to be in the minority that is not asymptomatic. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia infections are on the rise and are very common. Syphilis is on the rise as well. It sucks that these infections spread thru oral, but sucking a dick is something I will never give up and I will NEVER use a condom when doing oral. What's the point in sucking a dick if its covered in rubber?

 

Between escorts and clients, and how often we all rotate turns, we will probably be constantly passing these diseases around. I suppose I shall be seeing the doctor more regularly.

 

First of all I'm sorry about what happened to you and I'm glad you found out and now you're healthy again.

 

There are things we can catch giving sex without a condom, and is up to us to make a choice on what we do with who or practice abstinence. There are small risks and big ones, is up to us to make the choice.

 

 

all of these things will be on the rise thanks to folks thinking prep is the answer to everything

 

condoms still serve their purpose

 

Is the American way, asking your doctor what to take instead of what to do...

 

One more time you brought to this forum some common sense!

[marylander1940]

OP I think you woke up with a case of throat gonorrhea. They should also give you antibiotics for chlamydia just in case. This is the problem with glorifying sexual promiscuity on TV. It neglects the fact that, in real-life, there is a thing called sexually transmitted diseases, and they suck (no pun intended).

 

Also, I don't want to be a downer, but gonorrhea is becoming harder to treat. The virus is beginning to develop resistance to the treatment we use. I would say that if you catch gonorrhea again, you may want to be extra cautious. Let us hope the medical community find a solution to this son of bitch (the gonorrhea virus) becoming more stubborn. The last thing we need is one less curable STD.

 

That's why everyone should get tested regardless of how sexually active or inactive they are. Gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV, herpes, and other diseases can all be transmitted orally. HIV is still the devil, but it's not the only demon, and other demons can pass from one person to another much more easily.

 

Escorts should get tested at least every 3 months for all disease, the question is (knowing how sporadic and unpredictable their activity is) if one of them tests positive will he get immediate treatment and wait a few days before going "back to work"?

[+ quoththeraven]

all of these things will be on the rise thanks to folks thinking prep is the answer to everything

 

condoms still serve their purpose

 

True with respect to many STIs other than HIV, but condoms do not prevent all STIs.

 

This very much! I don't understand why people don't educate themselves on STDs. I understand that lust is hard to control, but take risks and you may not have sex again. I always tell people that yes, you have more fun without condoms, but this may be the last you'll ever have fun. So you either put a rubber on it, or risk not seeing it again.

 

"Take risks and you may not have sex again"? "This may be the last you'll ever have fun"? Even as applied to HIV, that seems a bit exaggerated, and over time the effectiveness of PrEP as a method of preventing transmission of HIV has held up.

 

Education involves learning facts. What you have written doesn't seem very factual.

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

True with respect to many STIs other than HIV, but condoms do not prevent all STIs.

 

 

 

"Take risks and you may not have sex again"? "This may be the last you'll ever have fun"? Even as applied to HIV, that seems a bit exaggerated, and over time the effectiveness of PrEP as a method of preventing transmission of HIV has held up.

 

Education involves learning facts. What you have written doesn't seem very factual.

 

No one doctor will ever tell you that PrEP is enough. PrEP is meant as a supplement to condoms, which themselves are not 100% effective. Unfortunately, many gay men are treating PrEP as an alternative to condoms even though there has been zero proof that it is effective enough on its own without condoms. Right now, STD prevention groups are trying their best to dispel this misconception that PrEP is enough because more and more gay men are treating it as a substitute to condoms.

 

Moreover, my statement is intentionally exaggerated because once you get HIV, your pre-HIV sexual habits cannot be continued any more. The number of people who will be willing to have sex with you will decrease significantly. You'll be put on treatment where you will have to take pills daily and get checked every three months. It's not an easy life. The HIV stigma is also beyond horrible. Moreover, some doctors I've worked with tell me that many patients worry more about others more than themselves. HIV is very difficult to deal with, especially if you're not surrounded with immense support. I've known two people who committed suicide after living with HIV for a while even though I live near a city where there are support groups. HIV is physically and mentally difficult. That's why I give people doomsday predictions.

[+ Funguy]

So much said.

However, just to be technical, gonnorhea is a bacterial infection not viral.

In addition, gonorrhea is commonly accompanied by a discharge and, even if not showing at the time of contact, residual may be in the urethra.

Bottom line - not only from pre-cum or cuming in the mouth!

 

Yes, gonorrhea and syphilis are on the rise and resistance in gonorrhea is on the rise as well

 

I always recommend syphilis testing at the same time as gonorrhea / chlamydia AND retesting for gonorrhea after treatment.

Overkill, maybe. Safety always!

[+ quoththeraven]

No one doctor will ever tell you that PrEP is enough. PrEP is meant as a supplement to condoms, which themselves are not 100% effective. Unfortunately, many gay men are treating PrEP as an alternative to condoms even though there has been zero proof that it is effective enough on its own without condoms. Right now, STD prevention groups are trying their best to dispel this misconception that PrEP is enough because more and more gay men are treating it as a substitute to condoms.

 

Moreover, my statement is intentionally exaggerated because once you get HIV, your pre-HIV sexual habits cannot be continued any more. The number of people who will be willing to have sex with you will decrease significantly. You'll be put on treatment where you will have to take pills daily and get checked every three months. It's not an easy life. The HIV stigma is also beyond horrible. Moreover, some doctors I've worked with tell me that many patients worry more about others more than themselves. HIV is very difficult to deal with, especially if you're not surrounded with immense support. I've known two people who committed suicide after living with HIV for a while even though I live near a city where there are support groups. HIV is physically and mentally difficult. That's why I give people doomsday predictions.

 

PrEP only deals with HIV, so of course doctors will recommend using condoms as well for protection against other STIs (not all, though; some are not prevented by condoms). But if by "zero proof that [PrEP] is effective enough on its own without condoms" you are talking about its effectiveness against HIV transmission, you are wrong. The PARTNER study (which is continuing with respect to gay couples), shows zero transmissions via condomless sex between serodiscordant partners where the HIV+ partner has an undetectable viral load due to antiretroviral therapy.

 

http://i-base.info/htb/30108

 

Excerpt:

 

These results are simple to understand – zero transmissions from over 58,000 individual times that people had sex without condoms. They are also notable for the complexity of the analysis that was needed to prove that none of the new diagnoses were linked transmissions from within the couple.

 

Together, this provides the strongest estimate of actual risk of HIV transmission when an HIV positive person has undetectable viral load – and that this risk is effectively zero. While no study cannot exclude the possibility that the true risk might lie within the upper limit of the 95%CI – even if the true value is actually zero due to some as yet unproven mechanism – the 95%CI can never be zero, just become increasingly close. Neither the presence of STIs nor likely viral load blips between tests had any impact in enabling transmission.

 

You can argue with the study if you want, but it exists and its results are actually better than condoms only. In no world is that "zero proof."

 

You call it intentional exaggeration. I call it fearmongering.

[jimboivyo]

No one doctor will ever tell you that PrEP is enough. PrEP is meant as a supplement to condoms, which themselves are not 100% effective.

 

how right this is.

 

prep is somewhere around 92% effective if taken properly. that leaves a lot to chance, especially when folks can't be trusted to take it as they should. escorts who take it, bare back and think they're perfectly safe are damned fools

 

from prep's own website

 

http://s11.postimg.org/6bhk02q27/Screen_Shot_2016_09_21_at_6_20_38_PM.png

[SteelFan]

If you don't mind me asking, did he ejaculate in your mouth? I'm just wondering if you could transmit gonorrhea with no ejaculation.

He did not cum in my mouth but I did deep throat him plenty and I loved it.

[jimboivyo]

He did not cum in my mouth but I did deep throat him plenty and I loved it.

 

you can still get an std from precum. orgasm isn't the problem

[Lab12]

OP I think you woke up with a case of throat gonorrhea. They should also give you antibiotics for chlamydia just in case. This is the problem with glorifying sexual promiscuity on TV. It neglects the fact that, in real-life, there is a thing called sexually transmitted diseases, and they suck (no pun intended).

 

Also, I don't want to be a downer, but gonorrhea is becoming harder to treat. The virus is beginning to develop resistance to the treatment we use. I would say that if you catch gonorrhea again, you may want to be extra cautious. Let us hope the medical community find a solution to this son of bitch (the gonorrhea virus) becoming more stubborn. The last thing we need is one less curable STD.

 

That's why everyone should get tested regardless of how sexually active or inactive they are. Gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV, herpes, and other diseases can all be transmitted orally. HIV is still the devil, but it's not the only demon, and other demons can pass from one person to another much more easily.

 

Gonorrhea is actually bacterial and not a viral infection.

I do agree with you, caution really needs to be exercised because we are not only seeing drug resistance with bacterial sexually transmitted infections and diseases but we are also starting to see a trend of resistance with viral STI/D management therapies. Some of it is due to the fact that people do not follow through with the therapies as prescribed thus spreading resistant strains, some of it is just due to natural evolution of bacteria and the zoonotic nature of certain viruses or how the genetic material is sequenced or transcribed; there is not much we can do about the natural cycle of bacteria and viruses but If you know anyone on any antibiotic and antiviral therapy, especially for STI-Ds advise them to finish the treatment even when the symptoms have disappeared. Also PREP alone is never enough for HIV prevention.

[caliguy]

I think stories like this apply to the recent post (escort dud). Jacque complained of the guy doing up to 6 clients per day and being non functional. This is another problem being with guys doing it like jack rabbits all day.

[caliguy]

how right this is.

 

prep is somewhere around 92% effective if taken properly. that leaves a lot to chance, especially when folks can't be trusted to take it as they should. escorts who take it, bare back and think they're perfectly safe are damned fools

 

from prep's own website

 

http://s11.postimg.org/6bhk02q27/Screen_Shot_2016_09_21_at_6_20_38_PM.png

Wrong Jim. According to your own fact sheet it's 96%-99% effective when used correctly. Same as condoms btw.