Hagglers?

[bigvalboy]

Sorry Mikey, I don't put ANYONE on the pedestal you've obviously created for your escorts. Its not about understand or Not understanding and you are incorrect. I DO value escorts as people, and that's where it ends. They aren't Gods or above being asked to negotiate a price for the service they are offering. Print and runway models are also valued for their BEAUTY and ability to sell a product. But they are treated as commodities as well. Thats just the nature of the business.

This is NOT a love connection. The escort will never become my boyfriend (or at least that's highly doubtful). I understand that its probably correct to have the attitude you do towards this issue considering the nature of this site, but sorry, I cant buy into that.

 

I will say that JJK makes some interesting analogies here. Granted, I have done the whole pedestal thing with the escorts, yes guilty as charged, so I certainly understand that aspect of the argument, but much of this depends on ones life's experiences. We all come to the table with a different perspective on escorting. Some are new to hiring, and much of this is virgin territory for them, so they look at escorts very differently than someone like myself that has been hiring for the better part of (ahem) 40 years. Yes I started at 17, so for myself, at this stage of my life, "been there done that", and as such, I'm a little jaded. So when JJK makes his point in the post above, I tend to agree. Others are certainly free to hire or deal with escorts anyway they choose. I just don't see this as all or nothing. No one here is right or wrong, we just see things differently.

 

To be clear, I don't negotiate, but that's just me, those reasons are personal, so if someone feels that they want to negotiate, or need to, or whatever, why should I care. Hire whomever you want, however you want.

And for the record, in thinking back today, I negotiate almost everything in my life, not everything mind you, but a whole damn lot of it, and if someone thinks less of me for doing it, so be it.

[jjkrkwood]

I will say that JJK makes some interesting analogies here. Granted, I have done the whole pedestal thing with the escorts, yes guilty as charged if you will, so I certainly understand that aspect of the argument also, but much of this depends on ones life's experiences. We all come to the table with a different perspective on escorting. Some are new, and much of this is virgin territory to them, so they look at escorts very differently than someone like myself that has been hiring for the better part of (ahem) 40 years. Yes I started at 17, so for myself, at this stage of my life, "been there done that", and as such, I'm a little jaded. So when JJK makes his point in the post above, I tend to agree. But others are free to hire or deal with escorts anyway they chose. I just don't see this as all or nothing.

 

To be clear, I don't negotiate, but that's just me, those reasons are personal, so if someone feels that they want to negotiate, or need to, or whatever, why should I care. Hire whomever you want, however you want.

And for the record, in thinking back today, I negotiate almost everything in my life, not everything mind you, but a whole damn lot of it, and if someone thinks less of me for doing it, so be it.

 

YUP, well said. And I am not here to win an argument or convince anyone to change their behavior. Thats an exercise in futility. What triggered my buttons was that people here were calling negotiation "unattractive" and the people that do it Rude and cheap. Like Annie, I too say behave the way you want, and let others do the say. Fuck this labeling shit. Yeah I know, there will always be Labels for everything and that's just sad.

People always want you to do as they do, and will talk smack when you don't. My point is my point, and it works for me. If you are happy with your behavior, God speed....

[MikeyGMin]

Just curious, how often do escorts contact you asking to see you again?

 

There are a couple out-of-towners who always let me know when they are in the area. More than a few have sent follow up texts saying they would like to see me again. I've never had an escort decline a follow up appointment, ignore me or put me on block. I've only had one who tried to treat me as an ATM (if that's what you are getting at) but that wasn't happening.

 

It's actually a bit of a moot point (as much as I have enjoyed arguing about it) because I have a regular situation that is working out really well. I'm not meeting many new guys these days.

[jjkrkwood]

There are a couple out-of-towners who always let me know when they are in the area. More than a few have sent follow up texts saying they would like to see me again. I've never had an escort decline a follow up appointment, ignore me or put me on block. I've only had one who tried to treat me as an ATM (if that's what you are getting at) but that wasn't happening.

 

It's actually a bit of a moot point (as much as I have enjoyed arguing about it) because I have a regular situation that is working out really well. I'm not meeting many new guys these days.

 

That sort of behavior makes perfect sense on the escorts parts. It's akin to telemarketers, whose job it is to drum up business. And you are already a proven client, so why not ? Personally, I wouldn't interpret those calls or texts any other way if I were to receive them.

[MikeyGMin]

That sort of behavior makes perfect sense on the escorts parts. It's akin to telemarketers, whose job it is to drum up business. And you are already a proven client, so why not ? Personally, I wouldn't interpret those calls or texts any other way if I were to receive them.

 

I actually wasn't interpreting them any way at all. (Except for the part about never being dodged or blocked. I like to do repeats, and I've known several escorts well enough to know what their MO is when they don't want to see a client again.) I was asked a question, not knowing if something was being implied, and I answered it. (You aren't the only one who likes to get the last word sometimes. )

[jjkrkwood]

 

 

 

PAY FULL PRICE....I'm goin to

 

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[whipped guy]

Whew this has turned to a heated debate:confused:. But just curious as to why a client messages an escort who prices he feels is high in the first place? They are tons of other escorts whom are just as hot as the expensive guy he wants to hire... whom has a lower price.There is a filter in rentmen where you can select a miminum and maximum price you can afford.

For some people it is simply a challenge... almost a game... Those are the people who never pay full retail for anything... and usually try to pay virtually nothing over wholesale... It's also called trying to get blood from a stone! If a guy has a lower price you can rest assured that they will even try to under cut that!

 

Oh, and if they can get it for less than wholesale... Even better!

[+ poolboy48220]

Whew this has turned to a heated debate:confused:. But just curious as to why a client messages an escort who prices he feels is high in the first place? They are tons of other escorts whom are just as hot as the expensive guy he wants to hire... whom has a lower price.There is a filter in rentmen where you can select a miminum and maximum price you can afford.

Maybe in NYC or LA there are. The pickings in other cities are pretty slim.

[jjkrkwood]

For some people it is simply a challenge... almost a game... Those are the people who never pay full retail for anything... and usually try to pay virtually nothing over wholesale... It's also called trying to get blood from a stone! If a guy has a lower price you can rest assured that they will even try to under cut that!

 

Oh, and if they can get it for less than wholesale... Even better!

 

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[jjkrkwood]

jjkrwood is the bad boy of daddys reviews, i don't know whether i want to spank him or him to spank me

 

First, tell me the price ! :p:D

[jjkrkwood]

Lets say 300 just so we can negotiate it down to my regular asking price:D

 

It's a maybe, but only if you serve Tea and light refreshments.

[jjkrkwood]

sorry jj no tea or light refreshments as I only drink water:p... but I'm sure ill quench your thirst in other ways;)

 

Oh sweetie, I'm all ready for your water sports....

 

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[+ Truereview]

Oh sweetie, I'm all ready for your water sports....

 

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Glad the photographer caught your good side, my sweet jerky.

[ChrisWydeman]

You get what you pay for and I have found that the people that try to haggle are often times really icky clients and not worth the time. Your fee is not negotiable as a general rule

[whipped guy]

jjkrwood is the bad boy of daddys reviews, i don't know whether i want to spank him or him to spank me

 

First, tell me the price ! :p:D

 

Lets say 300 just so we can negotiate it down to my regular asking price:D

I'll spank either one of you or both for free! However, I reserve the right to charge admission, but something tells me I will be able to command a higher price if jj is guaranteed to be one of the spankees! Just a hunch!

[+ azdr0710]

You get what you pay for and I have found that the people that try to haggle are often times really icky clients and not worth the time. Your fee is not negotiable as a general rule

 

jeez, it took 71 posts to get to this self-evident realization?....thread closed....we have a winner....move along, folks, move along, nothing more to see here!

[Jock123]

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[Guest countryboywny]

You get what you pay for and I have found that the people that try to haggle are often times really icky clients and not worth the time. Your fee is not negotiable as a general rule

 

I have often said that when you haggle on such a personal event, you're asking to be disappointed.

 

Similarly, when I contact an escort and ask what the rate for his time is.. and he responds with "What do you want to do?" it's a red flag to me and I end the inquiry. I wish everyone would reply with "$XXX per hour".

[jjkrkwood]

I have often said that when you haggle on such a personal event, you're asking to be disappointed.

 

Similarly, when I contact an escort and ask what the rate for his time is.. and he responds with "What do you want to do?" it's a red flag to me and I end the inquiry. I wish everyone would reply with "$XXX per hour".

 

Well Mr Country, you know it ALL depends on what color hanky you pick off his Menu.....

 

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[mattr]

I only engage with escorts who provide a prix fixe menu. Ala Carte is ok for a restaurant but not room service.

[ChrisWydeman]

I have often said that when you haggle on such a personal event, you're asking to be disappointed.

 

Similarly, when I contact an escort and ask what the rate for his time is.. and he responds with "What do you want to do?" it's a red flag to me and I end the inquiry. I wish everyone would reply with "$XXX per hour".

Maybe you can explain this to me because I have always been confused by this, if your contacting an escort you should know the rate its on their ad so why would you ask what it is? I have many people ask what my rate is have always wondered why.

[jjkrkwood]

Maybe you can explain this to me because I have always been confused by this, if your contacting an escort you should know the rate its on their ad so why would you ask what it is? I have many people ask what my rate is have always wondered why.

 

Probably because things are not always as they appear. The rate may have changed and not have been updated in the ad. Its a question from a guy looking to pay $300 an hour for your time. What's the big fucking deal ?

 

And as well have all come to know, pics posted are often fake, so there is really no reason to take anything else at face value... Especially if its a first-time contact.

[ChrisWydeman]

When I go to the grocery store and I see that a chicken breast is $4.99 a LB I assume its 4.99. Would you go to a grocery store that had different prices marked? Why would you go to an escort that changes their prices.

 

if you doubt the quality of the escort your interested ask on the forum

[Guest countryboywny]

Maybe you can explain this to me because I have always been confused by this, if your contacting an escort you should know the rate its on their ad so why would you ask what it is? I have many people ask what my rate is have always wondered why.

 

There are a few reasons that I do this:

1. The ad says "Ask" for the rate.

2. I prefer a confirmation of the rate before the meet happens so that there are no surprises and I am prepared and the escort gets what he is expecting. I have had it happen that there was a confusion on the rate where the escort asked for $100 more than his "advertised" rate. When I pointed out that his ad said $XXX, he was very embarrassed because he had forgotten to update that particular ad. It wasn't a big deal, he honored the advertised rate, but it made me uncomfortable..

[Guest countryboywny]

When I go to the grocery store and I see that a chicken breast is $4.99 a LB I assume its 4.99. Would you go to a grocery store that had different prices marked? Why would you go to an escort that changes their prices.

 

if you doubt the quality of the escort your interested ask on the forum

 

A session with an escort and going to the grocery store are two COMPLETELY different things to me. I know it's basically buying meat to some, but not me.