What would you do?

[down_to_business]

How sad that we have to keep the fact that we hire such a secret from most people.

 

My point was more so that unlike some are making it seem, there is NOT an outlet for clients to let others know when escorts screw them over - in the take my prepaid airfare and/or deposit and never show up category. The Noah review is the exception and not the norm, and yes I have submitted my proof to management including emails and receipts and I also except and abide by managements decision and hence I never once went behind managements back and tried to sneak any names into any threads etc.

 

So I boldly and state from personal experience its next to impossible to hold an escort accountable for "stealing" your deposit or prepaid travel and that is why I shudder every time I read these tales about how clients can easily hold escorts accountable for such - it simply is not true and to suggest otherwise is misleading. I also cringe when I read suggestions from clients who obviously do not hire for these type of appointments to begin with telling this escort to simply charge everyone a deposit.

 

Finally, despite being burned on a few occasions, I do continue to book escorts travel for these type of appointments. Is it possible that I will get burned again, yes, it is... but 1) It shows good faith and trust on my part.. I have invested money in travel that shows the escort I am serious about the appointment 2) The escort has shown faith and trust in me by providing me with his personal information that allows me to book his airline travel 3) For a client escort relationship to be successful, it requires mutual respect, trust and cooperation - This is for the weekend hires that I do most often- it would not be necessary to trade such personal information for just a 1 hour meeting (although I still believe mutual respect is in order).

 

To demonstrate I practice what I preach, I have already booked and paid for roundtrip flights for my favorite escort for not one but two weekend trips. My head is mostly filled with excitement about these two trips and how much fun we are going to have- the last thing on my mind is the remote possibility that he could screw me over and cause me to lose all the money I paid for his flights.

[Guest]

I haven't gone on a trip with an escort, nor am I likely to send a large amount of money... If either of those looked like happening, I would have to think hard about it.

This string's discussion was how the OP could protect himself from being burned when a long-term hire was being planned. Please forgive me for saying this, but since, by your own admission, you have not only never hired someone long-term, but haven't even thought about it, your response was rather non-contributory. I'm sure that almost every client (and perhaps many an escort) who reads these forums has hired lots of escorts for an hour or two and not known their real names. I've done it myself countless times.

My suggestion to the OP would be to leave my schedule open unless and until the prospective long-term client buys a non-refundable plane ticket, and sends the confirmation to the escort, especially if this is the first time the client is hiring the escort for a trip. In this case, the client is already taking somewhat of a risk that the escort bails on him. I've twice had the experience of an escort trying to re-negotiate his rate after I've purchased his ticket, and I was simply out the money. An escort suggested that the OP insist on being paid (or having the ticket purchased) anonymously up-front, and I opined that this is a rather nutty risk that only a foolish client would allow.

The OP (or maybe it was someone else) expressed concern that the client had the escort's real name and birthday, and that this could lead to identity theft or some other calamity. I really don't think that this is something that should keep the OP up nights worrying. There are probably hundreds of thousands of famous people (actors, singers, models, dancers, politicians, etc.) from all around the world whose full names and birthdays are available to anyone at the click of a button (Wikipedia and elsewhere). Many if not most of these people also have home addresses and work addresses that are easily found. To do real damage, one probably needs the SS number, even if we assume that identity thieves' MO is to hire escorts and fuck them, then fake the escort out with a trip proposal to get the escort's real name and birthday. There are easier ways, I'm sure. The client discussed in the original string is almost certainly just some inconsiderate asshole.

Although I hire escorts with regularity without knowing their names, with repeat hires the continued use seems silly, although no big deal if I say "Oh, yeah, Brad, I want to see you shoot your load!" when his name is really Doug. It's not that common for even famous celebrities to be stalked (although it does happen, obviously), and I would think that the escort has an even lower risk. Why would one need to stalk a man you can just pay $200 and have sex with? I'd be curious to hear from any escort who's been stalked (or been the victim of identity theft) as a result of his giving his real name out to a client. I would think that the real risk to the escort is meeting up for the first time with someone you really don't know. It could be a mugger, rapist, or even a murderer (although that risk can be mitigated somewhat these days with caller ID).

So my advice is as follows:

(1) For the escort, if the prospective client for a long-tern hire doesn't send you the confirmation for a non-refundable ticket within a couple of days, you should inform him that you can't set those dates aside until he sends you that information.

(2) For the client, don't hire long-term an escort you haven't met (BIG risk!), and don't go buying tickets or sending money to someone whose real name you don't know. Even then, be prepared to lose the amount you paid for the ticket (although risk is less if you know the escort, obviously), since the escort doesn't have anything invested in the trip.

 

As an aside, the two escorts who flaked out on me after I bought the ticket lost out on an honest and reliable client, because I was fond of both of them, but would not, of course, hire them again after they ripped me off. In one case, I think the escort was only in the business temporarily, and may have flaked out after finding a regular job. In the other case, the escort became very popular and probably didn't care about the loss of my business.

[+ WilliamM]

This string's discussion was how the OP could protect himself from being burned when a long-term hire was being planned. Please forgive me for saying this, but since, by your own admission, you have not only never hired someone long-term, but haven't even thought about it, your response was rather non-contributory.

 

I disagree. The comments by @mike carey appeared just at the right time. Mike may represents those of us who do not see the point of hiring an escort for a trip. I have hired a lot, but seldom now. I can only think of two or three escorts whom I would want to spent a week or two with on a trip. One escort on that list would be Tristan Waters, if he still escorting.

[Jock123]

PLOT TWIST

 

 

After playing "Detective" I found out that this Client Ended up Hiring a local guy. So looks like he "Kept his options open" and was shopping around all the while I'm turning people down thinking we Were on. Lesson learned. Thank You guys for all of the Input. Thats the thing about this Business...No matter how much You think You hit it off with someone...People change, Situations change etc. Always play it safe. This goes for both Escorts AND Clients. As much as I am pissed I'll move On. Keep it Classy....And eat some Dairy Queen tommorow. Life goes on.

[LADoug1]

How sad that we have to keep the fact that we hire such a secret from most people.

My point was more so that unlike some are making it seem, there is NOT an outlet for clients to let others know when escorts screw them over - in the take my prepaid airfare and/or deposit and never show up category.

 

And my point (albeit possibly off topic) was to express support for the OP since he had few people outside of this forum to tell his disappointment to. Hiring is sadly still taboo. I hope that changes.

[curiousnomore]

I am appalled by the Client's behavior. I recently booked an "Escorted" trip, that we had agreed to in person, and I apologized before asking for personal information. I knew the information, but I needed to make sure I spelled his name correctly.

[Jock123]

I am appalled by the Client's behavior.

 

 

You know what. If I didnt know any better I'd be Jaded. But this is a Small percentage of all of the great people I have met. I'd say 98% of the Experiences I have had all been AT THE VERY LEAST Respectful. Most clients are good guys. This is (And Escuse my French) Fucked up mostly because he knew all along he was "Keeping his options open". Thats Bad Karma....Treating people as if they are Disposable will only lead to Misery and Karma never forgets....ever.

[Jock123]

Havent heard from him Since either....

 

What goes around, Comes around.

[marylander1940]

PLOT TWIST

After playing "Detective" I found out that this Client Ended up Hiring a local guy. So looks like he "Kept his options open" and was shopping around all the while I'm turning people down thinking we Were on. Lesson learned. Thank You guys for all of the Input. Thats the thing about this Business...No matter how much You think You hit it off with someone...People change, Situations change etc. Always play it safe. This goes for both Escorts AND Clients. As much as I am pissed I'll move On. Keep it Classy....And eat some Dairy Queen tommorow. Life goes on.

 

I guess he found someone cheaper because it's local, no need for last minute airfare...

 

Havent heard from him Since either....

 

What goes around, Comes around.

 

exactly! you should warn other guys about him and what a tease and waste of time he was.

 

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[Frequentflier]

Actually that isn't true.

 

Most of the escorts who have stiffed me on airline tickets, and even the one who stiffed me on my Barcelona Cruise (where I lost my cruise deposit and his and my roundtrip airfares to Barcelona, prepaid tours, and pre paid hotels) got not even a ruffled feather. I had to eat the entire thing and only had the ability to tell a few people about it in private. There is no justice for clients either.

 

Well, I did get more than 5 days notice, but he did wait until after the change/cancel period allowed had passed to cancel on me for my dream vacation.

 

Ouch, sorry that happened to you. That sounds like a lot of money.

[curiousnomore]

You know what. If I didnt know any better I'd be Jaded. But this is a Small percentage of all of the great people I have met. I'd say 98% of the Experiences I have had all been AT THE VERY LEAST Respectful. Most clients are good guys. This is (And Escuse my French) Fucked up mostly because he knew all along he was "Keeping his options open". Thats Bad Karma....Treating people as if they are Disposable will only lead to Misery and Karma never forgets....ever.

I understand. I'm on the opposite end of this equation.

I appreciate that a Super Hot guy will see me. And I try to be the best Host ever.

[+ WhamIAm]

I've done two vacations with escorts, Puerto Rico and Bangkok, both times with escorts I've known for about a year. In planning the first one, we made time to plan for contingencies before I started booking -- what would happen if he cancelled, if I cancelled, if we got there and he decided to leave early or I decided he should leave early on the small chance one of us decided we couldn't spend another minute with the other . As it turns out, he got a last-minute offer to film a scene while we were in PR where he had to fly out to a different city than booked (at the end of the trip, not cutting short our time together). Per our agreement, he (actually in this case I'm guessing the studio) paid for his new flight and reimbursed me for cancellation fees on the unused ticket. Per the OP, we'd also agreed beforehand on 1/2 his per diem if I cancelled or if he decided to bail early. Worked out well in terms of neither of us being concerned on the financial end if things went belly up.

 

And, for clients, check out buying travel insurance beforehand. Might not be worth it if your only non-refundable cost is airline change fees, but if your hotel or other stuff is also non-refundable, it's not that hideously expensive. It also provided a ton of other stuff, including med expenses if he gets sick or hurt during the trip.

 

I'm just curious -- do folks hire or get hired for long trips by by clients/with escorts they've never met? And, for OP, was your meeting a year and a half ago your only prior meet, or did you have a more regular relationship with the client? Frankly, I'd be a little hesitant to travel with someone I didn't know well, but that's just me.

 

OP, what happened to you sucks. Sounds like you've shaken it off. Good for you!