This is Unbelievable

[+ quoththeraven]

After spending 45 minutes trying to rouse a couple on a date who were asleep or unconscious, police opened fire and killed them both, claiming the woman had a gun. (Which begs the question why she wasn't disarmed earlier.) What the actual fuck?

 

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/parents-date-night-passed-car-police-showed/

[Kenny]

The cops say they wanted to "de-escalate" the situation...when the couple was ASLEEP? Prosecute them.

[Jim Corrigan]

This stuff just has to stop.I used to say that not all cops were"pigs"as friends referred to them.I am not so sure anymore.

[seaboy4hire]

Imma go out on a limb and say some of you who are going to grasp your pearls and say this was such a tragedy also feel that guns are bad and only pigs should have guns.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[jjkrkwood]

Cops need to just go back to issuing parking tickets.....

[+ purplekow]

Imma go out on a limb and say some of you who are going to grasp your pearls and say this was such a tragedy also feel that guns are bad and only pigs should have guns.

 

Hugs,

Greg

I am a bit confused by your logic. These two people wound up dead, presumably that occurred partly because they had a gun. So how did gun ownership help?

[seaboy4hire]

I am a bit confused by your logic. These two people wound up dead, presumably that occurred partly because they had a gun. So how did gun ownership help?

 

Reread the aeticle. But this time after a couple cups of coffee. Also note what QTR posted.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[+ purplekow]

Reread the aeticle. But this time after a couple cups of coffee. Also note what QTR posted.

 

Hugs,

Greg

I did read the article and several others because I did not know the source of the article. I am not trying to justify the police shooting. I am questioning your logic in thinking a gun helps. Now I will have a coffee. I think you need something to wake you up the real cost of gun ownership.

[bigvalboy]

Cops need to just go back to issuing parking tickets.....

 

I'm all for that...

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/1a/de/c01adecf6ba747e1e2934548e5b7ca05.jpg

[+ purplekow]

In a middle class suburb on the other side of the country, the other side of the coin. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12176527/Rookie-police-officer-shot-dead-on-her-first-day-on-the-job.html

[corndog]

The original poster's headline said "unbelievable." Yes, I agree, this article is unbelievable.

 

To me, the source of this article is questionable. It links to a couple of mainstream news sources (including the LA Times and NBC Los Angeles) which report the same basic facts, but don't lead the reader to the same conclusions about the incident. While the officials seem to indicate that the victims were "unconscious" when the police arrived this article describes them as "asleep." I believe that these two terms lead the reader to very different conclusions about what was going on. The author at thefreethoughtproject.com implies that the officers arrived at the scene, found the victims "asleep" and shot them to wake them up. The other articles don't speculate about what transpired between the officers' arrival and the shooting; they seem more factual.

 

If the facts supported it, another story about police malpractice would surely be getting broad attention in a wide array of media outlets, but as far as I know, this story doesn't have "legs." I'm not trying to deny that our nation has serious problems with racially charged police brutality, but I think this article is speculation disguised as journalism. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

[MrMiniver]

This stuff just has to stop.I used to say that not all cops were"pigs"as friends referred to them.I am not so sure anymore.

 

You have friends who call cops "pigs?" And that doesn't concern you? Yikes.

 

I suspect that this isn't story from "free thought project" -- which is right up there with Alex Jones and Media Matters for credibility -- isn't the whole story.

[+ quoththeraven]

Imma go out on a limb and say some of you who are going to grasp your pearls and say this was such a tragedy also feel that guns are bad and only pigs should have guns.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

It wouldn't work here, but there are plenty of countries where the police by and large don't have guns. The UK is one of them. I believe Japan is another.

 

The police rely too much on weaponry (including supposedly non-lethal weaponry) and not enough on calming the situation down.

 

I am a critic of US gun culture and would be happier if only hunting weapons were legal, but I see police brutality and misconduct as another aspect of gun culture.

[Jim Corrigan]

This (calling cops pigs)was years ago.It was something I argued against.Its getting harder to do these days.

[+ quoththeraven]

I am a bit confused by your logic. These two people wound up dead, presumably that occurred partly because they had a gun. So how did gun ownership help?

 

As I read it, the assertion they had a gun was either a lie or an excuse. If they had such a easily-reached gun, how is it the police didn't see it or remove during the 45 minutes before the shooting?

 

This sounds more like a massacre. Keep in mind police once beat up an unarmed man who only knew Hindi, not English, because he didn't understand their instructions to get on the ground, and his lack of compliance infuriated them.

[Kenny]

Imma go out on a limb and say some of you who are going to grasp your pearls and say this was such a tragedy also feel that guns are bad and only pigs should have guns.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Guns are bad, and except in rare cases there is no reason to own one. None.

 

("Pigs," whatever that's supposed to mean, are irrelevant.)

[MrMiniver]

This (calling cops pigs)was years ago.It was something I argued against.Its getting harder to do these days.

 

The 1970s called. They want their insults back.

[+ WilliamM]

Guns are bad, and except in rare cases there is no reason to own one. None.

 

("Pigs," whatever that's supposed to mean, are irrelevant.)

 

Did the use of the word 'pigs' for policemen gain national attention at the Democratic Party convention in 1968 in Chicago, with Mayor Daley shouting insults on the floor of the convention at Sen. Ribicoff? I believe the senator had called out the Chicago police for the treatment of the anti-Vietnam war protesters.

 

Pres. Johnson (at his ranch in Texas) worked behind the scenes to secure the nomination for Vice President Humphrey. I am not excusing the use of the word, "pigs." But, earlier in 1968, MLK and Sen Robert Kennedy were assassination, LBJ did not seek reelection and there were over 500,000 American military in Vietnam. And a few months later voters elected Nixon.

[Paddy]