Adonis NYC - Sam Philly

[Doe Be Doe]

Hello.

 

I have not bee able to go to Adonis lately but in their email a new dancer has caught my attention: Sam from Philly is how he's identified. Anyone know him? He is rather cute.

 

Thanks for any info.

[joselowe]

What does he look like? Is he the young Latino with light colored eyes?

[Doe Be Doe]

I have not met him in person. He's been at Adonis several times but always on a night when I have a conflict. From the photos he appears white and mostly smooth.

[leeper]

Nice kid - seems very young, very nice body, very smooth and quite pleasant to talk to. I believe he identifies as straight, but I enjoyed the three-song dance I had with him.

[Doe Be Doe]

Thanks, leeper!

[I-zik]

I didn't enjoy him at the Adonis Nude Party. He smelled really bad and I gave in to his advances as long as it was only ONE DANCE. When I finally couldn't take the smell of his pits, he said I owed him for three songs! Cute guy though

[smooth899]

Haha I-zik...I had the same experience with him at Adonis a few weeks ago. He approached me and I was overtaken by his body odor. I also caved in and did a dance with him because I wanted to get a handful of his ass, but the smell was just so bad I stopped halfway through the first song.

[mattr]

Ugh.... you should email Tim about the body odor issues with Sam. Tim is very responsive to any issues with the dancers

[I-zik]

I personally didn't care enough to tip off the boss. I actually wouldn't be surprised if some guys like that. There are dancers with worst problems. But he just won't be getting my singles anymore. It's a shame too because he has a body to die for and his ass is incredible!

[mattr]

There is a dancer at Spunk who has really foul breath. When I see him coming I avoid eye contact and ignore him

[I-zik]

There is a dancer at Spunk who has really foul breath. When I see him coming I avoid eye contact and ignore him

Which one?

[+ sniper]

I didn't enjoy him at the Adonis Nude Party. He smelled really bad and I gave in to his advances as long as it was only ONE DANCE. When I finally couldn't take the smell of his pits, he said I owed him for three songs! Cute guy though

 

I can't speak to Sam as I've never seen him, but...how early in the evening did you get him? I generally try to arrive at Adonis events early on because after these guys have given a few lap dances, they tend to get sweaty and emit a mix of their own odor and that of their previous customers.

 

A lot of these guys take thermogenic fat burning pills which make them sweat much more than most people. By about two hours in most of the popular dancers kind of reek...which for some people adds to the attraction, but not all of us.

NYC would benefit form a venue with showers for the dancers to freshen up in.

[mattr]

Which one?

I am not 100% sure of his name but I think it is Manu....

[Adonis Lounge]

Regarding Sam, I can assure everyone that he will not be making anymore miraculous miscalculations while counting songs for customers. It has been addressed. Thank you as always for bringing this to my and the other patron's attention.

 

- Tim

[Carrellon]

Thank you Tim. I had a similar issue with Sam and his miscalculations (even though I told him from the beginning specifically I could do 4 dances, when we were done it was somehow 6). Of course, my way of dealing with this is to just not do any dances with the dancer in question in the future.

 

I had another dancer, Jorge, try to pull an even bigger one over on me. I did an extended dance with him (at another venue, not Adonis). It was 37 minutes long, for which I gave him $200 (the limit of the ATM machine there). I was actually going to get him a bit extra by going out to my own bank's ATM not far away, when he came up to me and told him I owed him $200 more for a total of 20 dances.

 

I know some songs can be long and others can be short, but on average most are somewhere between 3.5 and 4 minutes in the clubs. His calculation would have meant that the songs were only 1.85 minutes long on average. I confronted him on this and told him that even if it was 20 songs, that particular club also had a policy of $5 per minute. I left him with the $200 I gave him and will never do another private dance with him again.

 

The boys need to understand that while we appreciate them, if they want more money, they should be up-front and ask for more dances. If they wonder why patrons like myself refuse to speak with them anymore or do private dances with them, then they only have to look to their own actions. Any customer can make his displeasure felt by doing this, and the dancers should also understand that Tim and other promoters want to keep their businesses going and will not tolerate this kind of behavior. Despite the fact that he may look like a meathead, Tim is pretty smart and knows when a dancer isn't playing by the rules. Just let him know, and he will take care of it.

[Strafe13]

Thank you Tim. I had a similar issue with Sam and his miscalculations (even though I told him from the beginning specifically I could do 4 dances, when we were done it was somehow 6). Of course, my way of dealing with this is to just not do any dances with the dancer in question in the future.

 

I had another dancer, Jorge, try to pull an even bigger one over on me. I did an extended dance with him (at another venue, not Adonis). It was 37 minutes long, for which I gave him $200 (the limit of the ATM machine there). I was actually going to get him a bit extra by going out to my own bank's ATM not far away, when he came up to me and told him I owed him $200 more for a total of 20 dances.

 

I know some songs can be long and others can be short, but on average most are somewhere between 3.5 and 4 minutes in the clubs. His calculation would have meant that the songs were only 1.85 minutes long on average. I confronted him on this and told him that even if it was 20 songs, that particular club also had a policy of $5 per minute. I left him with the $200 I gave him and will never do another private dance with him again.

 

The boys need to understand that while we appreciate them, if they want more money, they should be up-front and ask for more dances. If they wonder why patrons like myself refuse to speak with them anymore or do private dances with them, then they only have to look to their own actions. Any customer can make his displeasure felt by doing this, and the dancers should also understand that Tim and other promoters want to keep their businesses going and will not tolerate this kind of behavior. Despite the fact that he may look like a meathead, Tim is pretty smart and knows when a dancer isn't playing by the rules. Just let him know, and he will take care of it.

 

I had a similar experience with Jorge (short, blond guy from Spain, right?) last year, but it was actually at Adonis, not another club. I had been counting the songs, and thought we'd done 5 or 6 at the most, but he said we did twice as many. I accept that clients can miscount during the heat of the moment, and honestly, if the dancer's doing his job well, the client's focus should be "elsewhere", making errors more likely. But there's no way I was off by 5 or 6 songs, no matter how well the DJ was mixing the tracks. But he was so insistent that he dances all over the world, and swore by his reputation, etc., that he almost had me thinking we spent half the night together! ;-) I took out some more money from the ATM and paid him somewhere in the neighborhood of an extra $100 just to avoid a scene and not have to call Tim over. Of course, I've never accepted a dance with him again, despite his frequent overtures. I'm certainly not happy about what happened to you, but it helps to know it wasn't in my head, and didn't just happen to me.

[mattr]

Happens to all of us.... That is why I specifically say how many songs I am willing to do up front. If things are going well and I want to continue the session, I tell him we can do 1 more... and then go 1 at a time. If there is any issue, I remind him of my request, pay him the agreed amount and never spend any more time/money on him.

[joselowe]

There's this one big Dominican guy there I think his name is Tornadohe is the absolute worst there! Once scanmed me out of $400! Hate that guy!

[joselowe]

wow y'all paying 200-300 for a 3 minute dances when you can just log on rentmen and find someone who can do everything for a total hour

I don't trust online men! They're like clothes I need to see it and try it in person first.

 

I know people who have gotten men on rent men who used pictures that were over 5 years old.... Nope not for me

[mattr]

wow y'all paying 200-300 for a 3 minute dances when you can just log on rentmen and find someone who can do everything for a total hour

 

I agree... which is why I have cut back on lapdances! Sometimes though... having a few drinks in a club with 20 or 30 mostly naked sweaty men flirting, copping feels, and trying to bromance you into the back room can be a good time. Something about a bit of debauchery in public can be a turn on!

[joselowe]

but it seems like these men in person aren't any better either... all I've heard here in this thread is people saying they smelled bad, bad breath and being scammed

That's s handful out of 30+ men

[I-zik]

I don't trust online men! They're like clothes I need to see it and try it in person first.

 

I know people who have gotten men on rent men who used pictures that were over 5 years old.... Nope not for me

 

I agree with this 1,000%! I've never hired but if I did it would be one of the guys I've had a dance or two from in the club. RM guys are getting more and more questionable with these fake reviews and the guys requesting everything from a copy of your license to your ss# and first pet's name.

 

But Dominiking, there have been times where I've spent hundreds of dollars in a bar and thought... I could've got way more bang for my buck with a pro! Lol

[+ sniper]

Counting songs is tricky, but each dancer gets announced and is on stage for two songs, so that is something easier to count if you're going for a longer session. And at any rate, the absolute most songs your dance could have been is twice the number of dancers announced plus two(assuming you started immediately after one dancer started, and stopped just before another was announced.)

[+ nycman]

Why do they use this stupid "number of songs" system?

 

....because it's EASY to SCAM....it's that simple.

 

In Key West and San Juan it's a set fee for a lap dance...want more?...sign up for another one! In my experience it works a whole lot better.

 

Admittedly it's not perfect either...I had a HUGE Russian dude try to pin me against the wall in a backroom in Key West and demand twice what

we had agreed to before hand. Unfortunately he didn't realize that I was a regular there that took VERY good care of the other dancers. They ALL

came running to my rescue. It was sorta cute. Over the many years I was in Key West....that moron cost himself a fortune in lost opportunities with me.

Not to mention all of the other newbie patrons I steered away from him over the years while sitting at the bar. What an idiot.

[I-zik]

You know what they say... In a room full of strippers, there's always a few rotten thongs! ...Do "they" say that? No? Well, they should. Lol