Barebacking Question

[Guest sunrise]

I recently had the experience of taking an escort that I have seen before raw. We just sort of slipped into it by accident. He told me that he only barebacked with his "boy friend". Now, I notice that his web page, no longer states that he only practises safe sex. Do you think, he has changed his policy across the board? Also, I don't have any signs of STDs that I have read about like burning when I piss, unwelcome discharge or rashes, but I do sometimes get a sharp pain in my dick when I am just sitting down. Does that sound like an infection that anyone has head of?

[parks00003]

> He told me that he only barebacked with his "boy friend".

 

And the last time your escorts "boy friend" barebacked WAS?

 

Who is your escorts boy friend fucking when your escort is fucking you? are they using condoms? I think that's way to much trust to put in someone you don't know.

[Will]

I'm not sure I follow this correctly, but you seem to be saying, among other things, that: (1) you don't perceive any risk in barebacking other than contracting a bacterial, not viral, STD; (2) you took the escort's word that he "only" barebacks with one other person; (3) you have not visited a physician regarding the pain in your dick; and (4) you seem to think that HIV, like most other STDs, provides immediate evidence, through symptoms, of infection.

 

If any one of those deductions is correct, and if you are an adult gay man, you need to do a lot of reading and go to a lot of counselling before you have sex the next time.

 

Put bluntly: you are in danger of contracting a fatal disease, which you may well pass on to others. And penicillin won't knock it out. With HIV, if you've got it you've had it.

[guyinsf]

My advice: Go to your doctor (or a clinic) if you are concerned you may have an STD. And, given your behavior, you have reason to be concerned.

[guptasa1]

>I recently had the experience of taking an escort that I have

>seen before raw. We just sort of slipped into it by accident.

 

Slipped into it by accident? Sorry if I sound a little harsh here, and I do know it's easy to do, but if you care about your health and his, this is no excuse at all, and frankly I think you'll find the worry isn't worth it. I understand taking calculated risks and such like unprotected low-risk behavior (oral for example), but unprotected anal sex is probably THE riskiest form of sex. I hope if you both chose to do this that you both completely understood that level of risk. If, however, your intention was NOT to be exposed to this level of risk, I would certainly make sure you never slip into it again by accident.

 

> He told me that he only barebacked with his "boy friend".

 

So he just decides that you're such a good client it'd be okay to do it with just you and his boyfriend, but not other clients? Sorry - I don't buy it. And even if it were true, you have to count his boyfriend's unprotected partners to. Does his boyfried bareback with anyone else? If these are all unknowns, even assuming he was honest, you're still at high risk. STD's like HIV can take more than 3 months to even show up, and even then, they're only detectable if the person tests for them.

 

>Now, I notice that his web page, no longer states that he only

>practises safe sex. Do you think, he has changed his policy

>across the board?

 

If it once said that and no longer does, I would definitely think something's up with that. And that may be a really bad sign. An escort willing to bareback, I would think, would mean he either A) Doesn't care about his own health, B) Thinks he can choose safe partners by his gut feeling, or C) Already has something and doesn't care about the health of others. None of them are particularly good options.

 

>Also, I don't have any signs of STDs that I

>have read about like burning when I piss, unwelcome discharge

>or rashes, but I do sometimes get a sharp pain in my dick when

>I am just sitting down. Does that sound like an infection

>that anyone has head of?

 

Doesn't sound too specific, but you might want to get it checked. And, considering your risk (dunno if you were top or bottom, but bottoms are at greater risk...though there is some for tops too), I'd definitely get an HIV test (as well as other STD's) at 13 weeks or so (generally considered conclusive after that point...6 months is FDA's recommendation though). Unfortunately, some STD's, including HIV, can have absolutely no symptoms at all. (If it does, it's a bit like the flu, but as I said, it doesn't always occur). I believe some of the other STD's out there can be symptom-free initially as well.

 

Good luck, and PLEASE stay safe next time. Even with your level of high risk, the chance of infection with something like HIV after just one unprotected experience is reasonably low, but if you keep practicing unsafe sex, your odds won't be good at all...

[Guest ReturnOfS]

Here is a simple answer to your inquery.

 

Go to a doctor or clinic and get a full body of STD tests as soon as possible!!!!

 

Don't waste time worrying about syptoms. Anyone who is sexually active should get STD tests done regularly anyway. Also don't be shy with the person who will be performing the test. Tell that person everything about your sexually history.

[FourAces]

Just keep on barebacking but keep in mind you probably won't see a lot of sunrises doing so.

 

RT

[taylorky]

hell...it's just mama natures way of thinning the herd!!!!!!!!!!!:-(

[Guest rohale]

What ever happened to common sense. Are we so naive to believe that after all these years of being told the dangers of unsafe sex. There are still people out there who still chose to ignore the warning signs of unprotected sex. The escort in question should think with his head before he thinks with his crotch. This should also apply to everybody out there who still believe in barebacking. It's just my opinion.

 

Rohale

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Bingo. Right on target Ro

 

Wrap it up everytime. No exceptions.

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[VaHawk]

>Just keep on barebacking but keep in mind you probably won't

>see a lot of sunrises doing so.

 

I assume this is a very "weak" attempt at humor? How does it apply to two HIV- guys engaging in barebacking? And why does it imply that if one does get infected with HIV that it is an "automatic death sentence". There are many people alive and healthy who have been infected for over 20 years. Besides, HIV, is nothing to joke about!

[Argos]

You are right HIV is nothing to joke about but I can't believe how cavalier some escorts are about being willing to bareback. I hooked up with a hot, handsome, hung and well reviewed escort in San Francisco on Wednesday night. I have been with him before and had an excellent time. This encounter was extremely hot but when he started to top me he wasn't wearing a condom. I reluctantly put an end to that and asked him to use a condom because I only engaged in safer sex. (When I topped him he immediately offered a condom after making my safer sex practices known.) I have not always been so insistent about condoms and it is easy in the heat of the action to forego using a condom. . . not to mention a hell of a lot hotter. I can only say I am thankful that I am still HIV- and plan to stay that way. I guess what bothered me was the escort's willingness to put himself at risk. He had not idea if I was HIV - or +. He didn't even bother to ask. Why he felt the need to bareback is beyond me because I certainly didn't ask or give any indication I was interested in barebacking.

[taylorky]

I guess what bothered me was

>the escort's willingness to put himself at risk.

 

 

screw him! sounds like this asswipe was willing to put YOU at risk.

[VaHawk]

Taylor, don't you realize that the person MOST responsible for putting himself at risk, is that guy looking back at you in the mirror?

 

I'm just about on the point of SCREAMING at those who engage in unprotected anal sex, and then post here or other places about the "character of those" who they let bareback them! Or troll for validation of their risky behavior, in some "feeble" attempt to put the BLAME/RESPONSIBILITY on their partner, whether that partner is an escort or not.

 

The ONLY one RESPONSIBILE for one's experiences are YOU, and if you try to pass the BLAME/RESPONSIBILITY to others because you were: "caught up in the heat of the moment", "high", or "whatever", then that makes you a LOSER on all counts! Ooops, just my opinion!

[buckguy]

People do screw up, but....."I only bareback with my boyfriend" and here he is barebacking with you? Like I'd believe the business about the boyfriend. The guy has sex for a living. Nothing wrong with that, but it means he has sex with lots of people, much like some very nice non-commercial guys you're likely to meet. In either case, if you don't know anything about someone's partners, except that they have had some recently (and you should ask or at least guess that they have, then use protection., And, yes, it's a good idea to be concerned about STDs other than HIV, many are far more infectious. Almost no one like condoms, but no one likes fatal disease, nasty less fatal diseases or treatments for fatal diseases that make you look gross or send you to the john at unfortunate times.

[Guest sunrise]

Thanks to all who answered. I must say I am surprised that I have barebacked this guy as a top. It has happened about 3 times, and each time just happened naturally. It is a bit odd because frankly I like the fact that condoms protect me from, among other things, fecal matter. I think the solution is not to see this escort again, since the temptation or ease of barebacking with him seems too hard to resist with him. I can't say that I discerned any difference in sensation on my part, except when I blew my load in him it seemed more fulfilling!

[FourAces]

Rarely do I read such an upbeat tale of barebacking. Since it seems as if you're going to continue in this activity may I suggest changing your name to sunset.

 

Here is a new avatar for your new name.

 

RT

 

http://www.islandinnmonhegan.com/img/sunset.jpg

[guptasa1]

>Thanks to all who answered. I must say I am surprised that I

>have barebacked this guy as a top. It has happened about 3

>times, and each time just happened naturally. It is a bit odd

>because frankly I like the fact that condoms protect me from,

>among other things, fecal matter. I think the solution is not

>to see this escort again, since the temptation or ease of

>barebacking with him seems too hard to resist with him. I

>can't say that I discerned any difference in sensation on my

>part, except when I blew my load in him it seemed more

>fulfilling!

 

Again, my intention with this post is NOT to give you a hard time. I also know you're going to do what you're going to do regardless. But in my opinion, changing the escort doesn't fix the core problem - chaging your behavior does. If given the opportunity, you're willing to bareback, and that's not good as it's probably something that would potentially happen with anyone willing to bareback. Now if the ONLY way to stop yourself is to see someone else who only plays safe, that's probably a good step to take, but I think there are better ones that would allow you to see the same guy if you so chose, just safely.

 

What I think disturbs me the most is your reasoning. I could at least understand a bit more if sensation was a problem for you with a condom on or something like that, but even according to you, it makes little difference (and the shooting of the load is probably mostly psychological anyways).

 

So, instead of choosing a new escort, why not take proactive action and get creative? If you plan to top, tell the escort ahead of time "From now on I'm only playing safe, so please make sure I put on a condom and don't get ahead of myself! You're so hot sometimes I forget!" Or something like that. Make it fun or playful, but make sure you don't "forget" or "slip into it" (your responsibility, but it might help if he's watching out for it too). Hell, I think they even make underwear now with pouches for condoms (not sure if it's for males though - lol). Consider the condom just as important as proper lubrication.

 

As far as the psychological load-shooting difference, you can always PRETEND you're not using a condom. LOL. My favorite escort constantly threatens to get me pregnant (LOL), but we always play safe. =o) It's fun and doesn't take away from the experience, for me at least.

 

Anywho, just some ideas... I hope maybe you'll consider trying to think of something that works for you. Because I sincerely doubt if you did get an STD, especially one of the badder ones, you'd find it worth it.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Is it more than bad manners?

 

>I can't say that I discerned any difference in sensation on my

>part, except when I blew my load in him it seemed more

>fulfilling!

 

Certainly barebacking is risky behavior. And some... errrrr.. many do practice. However, it seems to me that blowing one's load up someone's ass doesn't show a lot of regard for one's partner as it subjects them to maximum risk. Because the viral load in precum seems to be about one perecent of the viral load in semen it seems worthwhile that if one is going to engage in barebacking that it is just good manners -- and a lot more -- to withdraw before ejaculation.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>Taylor, don't you realize that the person MOST responsible

>for putting himself at risk, is that guy looking back at you

>in the mirror?

>

>I'm just about on the point of SCREAMING at those who engage

>in unprotected anal sex, and then post here or other places

>about the "character of those" who they let bareback them! Or

>troll for validation of their risky behavior, in some "feeble"

>attempt to put the BLAME/RESPONSIBILITY on their partner,

>whether that partner is an escort or not.

>

>The ONLY one RESPONSIBILE for one's experiences are YOU, and

>if you try to pass the BLAME/RESPONSIBILITY to others because

>you were: "caught up in the heat of the moment", "high", or

>"whatever", then that makes you a LOSER on all counts! Ooops,

>just my opinion!

 

Oh dear...no wonder there are no mirrors in VaHawk's house!

[+ Lucky]

"With HIV, if you've got it you've had it."

 

What does that mean, Will? Are you just being flip or should HIVers cash it in? Is there life after 60?

[VaHawk]

You've been gone way to long!!

 

"What does that mean, Will? Are you just being flip or should HIVers cash it in? Is there life after 60?"

 

HIVers should IMMEDITATELY sell their life insurance benefits to all those "death brokers" at 10 cents on the dollar! OOOPS, sorry TOO LATE, as that black market died at least a dozen years ago, with all the life prolonging AIDS drugs developed since then!

 

There is INDEED life after 60, haven't you ever heard of 69?? :7

[Flower]

2DUMB2beREAL.COM

 

>Thanks to all who answered. I must say I am surprised that I

>have barebacked this guy as a top. It has happened about 3

>times, and each time just happened naturally. It is a bit odd

>because frankly I like the fact that condoms protect me from,

>among other things, fecal matter. I think the solution is not

>to see this escort again, since the temptation or ease of

>barebacking with him seems too hard to resist with him. I

>can't say that I discerned any difference in sensation on my

>part, except when I blew my load in him it seemed more

>fulfilling!

Don't you really think this is a FAKE POST!?

 

I thought so when I first read his original post and his second response seems to confirm--this is a put on--no one is this dumb and shares it, except maybe our president. ( http://www.toodumbtobepresident.com)

 

He obviously was bored here and knew what buttons to push. Also, note that his first post was about the same time he signed up--actually the dates must be wrong since Hoo has him posting 5 days before he signed up, but the point is, looks like he's a regular poster who "just naturally got bored." }(

[jackhammer91406]

RE: 2DUMB2beREAL.COM

 

Welcome back Mr. Green.

Long time no see. Hope you are doing well.