411 on Dakota, Annapolis, are these picts real?

[+ Truereview]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SuCMrAMLB_Y/UZKKUFJM7II/AAAAAAAAENE/bi15H0R7Ox0/s1600/conspiracy.jpg

I do look good in foil!

[Andy2]

Well, at the risk of returning to the announced topic of the thread . . . .

 

http://rentmen.com/Dakota

 

So I emailed Dakota and got access to his private photos (all 16!), which are all of the same guy and all very hott. If he is using borrowed pix, he has accumulated a treasure trove of them, I must say. His email responses are polite and affirmative but conclusory--which is not necessarily a red flag but is not as helpful as they might be.

 

Has anyone actually met him? He says he does "in calls" in Annapolis.

[+ Gar1eth]

 

The one thing that worries me is the "handlers" and "blog writers" Some companions hire these to handle all communications and then they get "dispatched." Some of these guys sound great in email and text, but when they arrive, they have no idea what their "rep" has said on their behalf. Freaky!

 

I have no real knowledge to quote from. But I would think that the escorts who use 'reps' are in the minority. I would think they might be common with say the guys from Eastern Europe whose ads all sound very similar. In fact by report there used to be someone who brought Eastern European guys over and then served as their intermediary with correspondence. Or then there is that traveling group of straight muscle guys who use the same phone number.

 

Well, at the risk of returning to the announced topic of the thread . . . .

 

http://rentmen.com/Dakota

 

So I emailed Dakota and got access to his private photos (all 16!), which are all of the same guy and all very hott. If he is using borrowed pix, he has accumulated a treasure trove of them, I must say. His email responses are polite and affirmative but conclusory--which is not necessarily a red flag but is not as helpful as they might be.

 

Has anyone actually met him? He says he does "in calls" in Annapolis.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by 'conclusory'. I wasn't even sure that was a word. But Webster's defines it as 'consisting of or relating to a conclusion'. I'm wondering from the context of what you wrote whether you might have meant 'inconclusive' instead.

 

Gman

[Andy2]

Gman,

 

By "conclusory" I did mean exactly what the dictionary says: Dakota failed to engage with my questions and just gave "yep" and "sure" answers. That is not disqualifying--but does not help me along in thinking that he would be "into" my interests.

[+ Gar1eth]

Gman,

 

By "conclusory" I did mean exactly what the dictionary says: Dakota failed to engage with my questions and just gave "yep" and "sure" answers. That is not disqualifying--but does not help me along in thinking that he would be "into" my interests.

 

What 'conclusion' were his answers of 'yep' and 'sure' consisting of or relating to?

 

Gman

[Andy2]

What 'conclusion' were his answers of 'yep' and 'sure' consisting of or relating to?

 

Gman

 

I sent him a short list of things I was into, and he responded "OK" to the list. Nothing disqualifying about that, but some guys say yes to anything just to get your business--and other guys give you more detailed feedback (yes I like this and so, but not if such and such).

[mickeym]

I took one for the team. He's not a fake. Pm if you have specific questions.

[Wiley1]

I took one for the team. He's not a fake. Pm if you have specific questions.

 

Hi Mickey. Will you post a review?

[+ stevenkesslar]

NO ASSHOLES PLEASE.

 

Those words actually never appeared in anything I ever said or wrote to promote myself as an escort, and yet my policy for 15 years is I have discriminated against assholes when I screen clients who want to hire me.

 

This may shock you, but speaking as an escort it is actually way easier to determine things like race and age than whether somebody is an asshole, and to screen out undesirable clients accordingly.

 

The reason I would never actually state "No Assholes Please" as a policy - even though it is my policy - is that saying so would make me sound tactless and judgmental. Saying "No blacks" is tactless, and arguably racist. If the guy wants to limit his business that way, including business by white guys who are offended by what they will perceive as racist language, I'd say it's a free country, and he can limit his business in any way he chooses.

 

The problem I have with tactlessness is not so much that it makes the person who makes the tactless comment look bad. It's that it makes the subject of his tactlessness feel bad. I've had more than one black escort tell me that saying "no blacks" makes them feel like their skin color is a disease. In my book, reversing it and having escorts who are paid for their services say it to clients is even more tactless.

 

My main point is that it is completely unnecessary. I personally think it's both tactless and ignorant to assume and then state that you won't enjoy having sex with someone just because of the color of their skin. Even if you say, "I tried it, and it's just not a turn on" - I'd still say there are lots of ways for escorts to screen out clients they'd rather not meet without saying "You are fat" or "You are old" or "You are black" or "You are an asshole."

 

Anyway, the nice think about tactlessness is it invites tactlessness, which is kinda fun. I just emailed the asshole and told him I'm white and thought he was the kind of asshole little prick I'd never hire.

[TruthBTold]

Well, if the state you reside in passes legislation that OK's escorting and simultaneously has a race/age, etc. non-discrimination clause then you might have a legal problem.

[Wiley1]

That's true. If it's not your problem then it's not your problem. As you can choose for yourself not to deal with this person, why not choose that path?

[adventurous old guy]

I've wondered if there is someone with multiple personality disorder with different handles taunting others and keeping the threads going! The angel, the antagonist, the bitch, the hot boy everyone wants but no one has met, the writing diarrhea guy...all one person. Spooky. Of course, that's just my conspiracy theory disorder kicking in

There's actually some rich precedent for this. The Danish existentialist philosopher Soren Kierkegaard wrote different works under different names to shape public conversation. It was about god and the universe and such, not escorts, but still precedent. He was a drama king, with an outside perspective who used his different voices to be ironic, satiric, provocative -- so the 19th century equivalent perhaps of the angel, the bitch, the hot boy, etc., etc. LOL: http://www.iep.utm.edu/kierkega/

 

AOG

[BgMstr4u]

Put me in the "I'm ok with being upfront about preferences" category. What are we doing when we look at ads but filtering out what turns us off and looking for what turns us on? I really don't want to waste my time and money on escorts who don't feel they can give me 100%, and I don't want them to waste theirs that way either. Mutual respect. So it's ok with me if an ad says he doesn't do older (I'm 69), fatter, fairly out of shape, not anyone's idea of an experienced lothario, erotically awkward white guy type, which would be me for sure. The last thing I want is rejection, so honesty is a big help. [Though I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not alone as a type in the world of possible escort clients.] Doesn't mean we can't have other interactions that are wonderful, of course. Conversation, even friendship. But erotic energy has its own mysterious pathways and they must be respected.

Edited March 30, 2016 by BgMstr4u

[adventurous old guy]

NO ASSHOLES PLEASE.

 

Those words actually never appeared in anything I ever said or wrote to promote myself as an escort, and yet my policy for 15 years is I have discriminated against assholes when I screen clients who want to hire me.

 

This may shock you, but speaking as an escort it is actually way easier to determine things like race and age than whether somebody is an asshole, and to screen out undesirable clients accordingly.

 

The reason I would never actually state "No Assholes Please" as a policy - even though it is my policy - is that saying so would make me sound tactless and judgmental. Saying "No blacks" is tactless, and arguably racist. If the guy wants to limit his business that way, including business by white guys who are offended by what they will perceive as racist language, I'd say it's a free country, and he can limit his business in any way he chooses.

 

The problem I have with tactlessness is not so much that it makes the person who makes the tactless comment look bad. It's that it makes the subject of his tactlessness feel bad. I've had more than one black escort tell me that saying "no blacks" makes them feel like their skin color is a disease. In my book, reversing it and having escorts who are paid for their services say it to clients is even more tactless.

 

My main point is that it is completely unnecessary. I personally think it's both tactless and ignorant to assume and then state that you won't enjoy having sex with someone just because of the color of their skin. Even if you say, "I tried it, and it's just not a turn on" - I'd still say there are lots of ways for escorts to screen out clients they'd rather not meet without saying "You are fat" or "You are old" or "You are black" or "You are an asshole."

 

Anyway, the nice think about tactlessness is it invites tactlessness, which is kinda fun. I just emailed the asshole and told him I'm white and thought he was the kind of asshole little prick I'd never hire.

 

Steven hit this nail on the head IMHO. It's one thing to know what you like and don't and be honest about that, quite another to frame that as a blanket stereotype. Really - Dakota has never met a black person he's found attractive or interesting? Hard to believe. The first thing that came to mind when I saw that statement -- which offended me -- is to question his maturity. Wondering if he's a clueless kid rather than an ASSHOLE, given that he's been quite responsive to me about what he likes and offers to his clients.

[marylander1940]

No black guys please.

 

~ Boomer ~

 

Attitude is so charming, LOL...

 

He has racial hang-ups and as an advertiser is willing to bluntly post them out there for everybody to see instead of trying to find out by email about his would-be-clients. I wonder what else is wrong with him.

 

I've never escorted but if was doing I would rather have an in shape black, instead of an overweight white man, just saying...

 

Sounds like:

 

http://api.ning.com/files/BykvwnNi9Ls7XUajIeOe5OiOI3szRfZD*65njh7fkio-BHXWEj2SH1oeSthHfiH7*TOAnzC2SIroCOH7jd5fCrm74ot*zgnp/no_irish.jpg

 

I agree that those exclusionary comments are disturbing, but also that upfront honesty is good and saves time, money, embarrassment, and disappointment. It's a dilemma.

 

But:

I wonder if a casual "so tell me about yourself what nationality are you.." etc query from a scort when talking texting emailing with a client would be a more PC way to determine if he wants to see the client.

Unfortunately, a lot of guys don't seem to be very willing to engage in preliminary conversation any more. Recently I contacted a very well-reviewed (on this site and others) escort that I was very interested in seeing through his ad. His reviews say not only how great he was, but also that he is really interested in his clients, easy to talk to and make arrangements with, etc. He sent me the usual "what's up?" type response. I sent him back an email saying that I was expecting to be in his city on certain dates and would like to get together with him. And I asked him several questions about arrangements (not about activities), like was he going to be there then, was he free on a certain date, his rate, and one or two others. The talk about what I was interested in, a little about me, etc., would come in the next round. In return I got back an email that contained nothing but a three-digit number. Since I hadn't said anything about myself or about what I was interested in doing, he couldn't have been blowing me off because I was the wrong age or color or wanted to do something kinky or bizarre, etc. Needless to say, he did not get my business, and that was the end of the "conversation".

 

That's why I always require a phone call for a couple of minutes to see if we click, so many young men (usually millennials) don't ever know how to react while talking on the phone.

 

In this case is was obvious he didn't even take time to reply to you in a coherent way, you didn't ask anything out of the ordinary, just basic questions. He should have replied to you something as simple as:

 

Yes, I'll be in town.

 

What do you get into?

 

Are you looking to host or travel? Where will you be staying?

 

At my place I charge XXX and when I go out I charge XXX + uber if it's late a night.

 

Nothing out of this world, he could have typed that even from his iPhone.

Edited March 30, 2016 by marylander1940

[Dakota]

Thank

Well, at the risk of returning to the announced topic of the thread . . . .

 

http://rentmen.com/Dakota

 

So I emailed Dakota and got access to his private photos (all 16!), which are all of the same guy and all very hott. If he is using borrowed pix, he has accumulated a treasure trove of them, I must say. His email responses are polite and affirmative but conclusory--which is not necessarily a red flag but is not as helpful as they might be.

 

Has anyone actually met him? He says he does "in calls" in Annapolis.

Thank you for actually saying something nice about me : )

[TruthBTold]

Dakota, I don't hesitate to says that you are especially good looking with a wonderful body. When your Rentmen profile is read you come across as sexually open and willing to adapt to various situations. However, as everyone has noted your ad blanketing asks that no black gentlemen contact you. For me, that makes me worry that you may not be interested in meeting me, a middle-aged guy. I know it will be difficult (and I'm not sure in general how we exercise our right to see who we desire) however your outright refusal to see black clients does not make you look good (in my opinion).

[Will Do]

+1

[Will Do]

Though, I agree with TBT, you are damn good-looking.

 

I too am a middle-aged guy - white. I'll say, with your stated exclusions, I'd have second thoughts in contacting.

 

While you don't expressly exclude we older fellows (who may have larger caches for this hobby,) the one exclusion does cause me thought. "Will he see me????"

 

Thanks Dakota.

 

Will

Edited April 1, 2016 by Will Do

[Jock123]

Totally off Topic but...

 

I'd give this man the Sloppiest Head.

 

Hashtag YAS LAWD AMEN AND THE HOLY TAYLOR SWIFT

Hashtag He could get it

[adventurous old guy]

Though, I agree with TBT, you are damn good-looking.

 

I too am a middle-aged guy - white. I'll say, with your stated exclusions, I'd have second thoughts in contacting.

 

While you don't expressly exclude we older fellows (who may have larger caches for this hobby,) the one exclusion does cause me thought. "Will he see me????"

 

Thanks Dakota.

 

Will

 

Will, I'm 61 -- older than middle age, and Dakota agreed to see me. I know I'm older than some prefer, and so was very upfront about age when I contacted him. Even followed up with a pic to level the playing field. He seemed totally cool about it.

 

Also want to give kudos to Dakota for entering the fray and interacting here. Nice to see conversation about the topic of race that is as open and sort of honest as the one I'm seeing here, especially given that people have strong and different points of view on the subject.

[Will Do]

Thanks for the input A O G.

 

Hope you do have the opportunity to get with him!

[Newly]

I rarely post but I'm intrigued by this topic. Regardless of how one feels about racism, there are tons of postings by forum members saying that they only want to see Black, Latin, White, Young, Asian - fill in the blank - escorts and I don't think that I've ever heard these people being called names. It's true that they're paying for a service and an escort is charging for it, but the escort is selling time - not his soul. So why is it acceptable for a client to have these preferences (which often include racial preferences) but not an escort?

[Kenny]

So why is it acceptable for a client to have these preferences (which often include racial preferences) but not an escort?

Probably for the same reason it's OK for a customer at a lunch counter to have racist preferences, but if the lunch counter owner does and acts on them in providing a public accommodation, he'll get busted. (The only thing protecting an escort in a similar situation is the overall illegality of his service.)

[+ Truereview]

Fuck this...I'm just gonna say it:

 

Hey, @Dakota, it has to be hard to just sit there and have folks just post opinions about you or your business when you know yourself best. What is going thru your mind? Help us see your side of things.