411 on Brian - "Best Asian Masseur in Town"?

[Ride a cowboy]

Pics are great - as are the reviews - but trust your opinions over the m4m ones:

 

http://www.massagem4m.com/ca/los-angeles/17131/

 

 

Thanks!

[tsgarp]

Expect up-sell.

[nynakedtop]

Expect up-sell.

 

thanks, ts.... i had him on my list for my west coast trip next week - until now.

 

total buzz-kill deal-breaker!

[Ride a cowboy]

Ugh.

 

Thanks for the heads-up, TSG!

[samandtham]

That sucks. He's definitely good-looking!

[+ dutchmuch]

His first massage review on MassageM4M is a '4', said he had no massage training and went to the bathroom 4 times during 50 minute session. (And I don't think it is from TB, AKA 'tiny bladder")

 

 

http://davehughes.com/wp-content/uploads/Obama-flames.jpg

[Ride a cowboy]

Thanks for the insight. I was intrigued, I punched in his digits and wrote the text, but something told me check the forum before hitting "Send". So glad I did!

 

BTW: It's going to take a lot of up-selling to cover four trips to the bathroom in 50 minutes. ("Tiny Bladder" meds can be expensive, ya know.)

[tsgarp]

I recall his massage skills we just OK, he was very attractive, and was all about more cash (and more cash...) come sensual time. Felt like a business transaction when all was said and done, not a massage.

[nynakedtop]

I recall his massage skills we just OK, he was very attractive, and was all about more cash (and more cash...) come sensual time. Felt like a business transaction when all was said and done, not a massage.

 

This board at its best! I am out there (west coast) for the coming two weeks and was ready to go with him. Looks like my cash will be better spent elsewhere... Thanks, guys!

[lamaljclax]

I personally talked to him before he moved out to LA from Chicago a few years ago, and his life in LA is full of lies...

[nynakedtop]

Not to risk blowing this out of proportion (and I know I will be called out here if I am doing that....)

 

But: guys like this are the worst example of people who leech on us. They figure out our vulnerabilities and devalue us by turning us into human ATM machines. One guy once tried the upsell on me during a session (a very very well reviewed and highly visible member of this Board) and every time I think about it my blood pressure surges.

 

Bravo to the poster(s) here who alerted us!!

[lainent]

Good damn, he is a good looking Asian boy! Man, up sell?!! A shame then!

[cody94577]

I have seen him and yes he does up sell but he is not as bad as maybe he is being made out to be. He does a decent massage and good eye candy. If you want nude another $20 so $140 which is ok. He is a nice guy and obvious doing this more for money and is not what he makes himself to be in his ad but who is. I did enjoy my time but yes him charging extra even though I asked before appointment would he be charging for anything else he said no will keep me away. But he is handsome and well hung. Can't say he is rip off, just not what hyped himself to be. I believe he has been called out in this in some reviews as I noticed 3 times his ad disappeared after negative reviews, like mine. So maybe when you cancel as then restart the reviews go away too.

[+ Axiom2001]

I have seen him and yes he does up sell but he is not as bad as maybe he is being made out to be. He does a decent massage and good eye candy. If you want nude another $20 so $140 which is ok. He is a nice guy and obvious doing this more for money and is not what he makes himself to be in his ad but who is. I did enjoy my time but yes him charging extra even though I asked before appointment would he be charging for anything else he said no will keep me away. But he is handsome and well hung. Can't say he is rip off, just not what hyped himself to be. I believe he has been called out in this in some reviews as I noticed 3 times his ad disappeared after negative reviews, like mine. So maybe when you cancel as then restart the reviews go away too.

 

Since you've seen this cutie, send him an email and school him on how he's been perceived, and give him positive suggestions to marketing. I've done that on one or two occasions for escorts, and I think it paid off in the end for others. He should be upfront in the beginning and stick to it.

In your writing to him, relay that he's received reviews through the "grapevine" and perhaps is losing out on business from his initial retractions and "slimy" tactics! [i would use another word for slimy when communicating to him!]

[cody94577]

Actually a while ago I sent him a note saying something like that. I did not get a reply. May be worth sending this thread though.

[Ride a cowboy]

Aaaand, he's gone inactive.

[+ dutchmuch]

Aaaand, he's gone inactive.

 

Good, he's the 3nd scammer to go 'Inactive' this week.

 

http://m4m-forum.org/threads/adam-in-west-hollywood.106659/page-2

 

http://m4m-forum.org/threads/daniel-danniel-in-la.103421/#post-997842

[Lohengrin1979]

And he's back. At least his profile link worked for me. I will add my voice here to those saying he is a notorious upseller. He also did not do the full hour when I went to see him. I adjusted his fee accordingly.

 

Lohengrin

[cody94577]

I decided to give this a guy a second chance and had much better experience. He was much more engaging and took requests to a certain point. He did not upsell me this time. His massage is fair with sensual but he won't get into escort type stuff.

 

He is nice and buff and allowed me to feel around.

 

Though, he is not the best at punctual text responses.

[Ajac]

His first massage review on MassageM4M is a '4', said he had no massage training and went to the bathroom 4 times during 50 minute session. (And I don't think it is from TB, AKA 'tiny bladder")

 

 

http://davehughes.com/wp-content/uploads/Obama-flames.jpg

Hey Dutch

Maybe save the political pics for the politic forum. Not that I am taking a stance for either party. It is just nice to have a place to go that we can be free of any of it.

Thanks

Ajac

[+ dutchmuch]

Hello Ajac. It wasn't meant to be political at all, and now see what you mean.

I will screen better next time, thank you.

[nynakedtop]

Hello Ajac. It wasn't meant to be political at all, and now see what you mean.

I will screen better next time, thank you.

 

On the other hand, Herr Dutch, I congratulate you for injecting a bit of reality into a discussion that can sometimes border on obscure navel gazing and hope you feel continue to feel free to let "100 flowers bloom..."

[+ dutchmuch]

On the other hand, Herr Dutch, I congratulate you for injecting a bit of reality into a discussion that can sometimes border on obscure navel gazing and hope you feel continue to feel free to let "100 flowers bloom..."

 

Well, some people consider me a provocateur. I like truth & sarcasm!

 

[nynakedtop]

Actually, the "100 flowers campaign" to which I made reference and to which you replied was a 1956 campaign by the Chinese communist party to relax restrictions on political expression and "let 1000 schools of thought flourish".

 

Just a mid-week bit of information for professor Richard here to share!

[+ dutchmuch]

I recall his massage skills we just OK, he was very attractive, and was all about more cash (and more cash...) come sensual time. Felt like a business transaction when all was said and done, not a massage.

 

TSGarp, I couldn't agree more. The a la carte menu is presented 20 minutes into a somewhat lousy massage.

That said, he is quite handsome and fit.