An Awkward Escort Situation!!

[JDXXX]

I agree with everybody that you did absolutely the right thing.

 

And that you learned something a little disappointing about this client, which you can now meditate on at leisure, and think about what to do, if anything, the next time you see him.

 

I agree 100%.

[mike carey]

I agree Whipped Guy and JD, but it's great to see guys in here who previously had no idea. Aaronpierce is a case in point, he found us and loved the idea of the forum for him to share his experiences. And JD, I love your open approach and look forward to meeting up with you.

[JDXXX]

I agree Whipped Guy and JD, but it's great to see guys in here who previously had no idea. Aaronpierce is a case in point, he found us and loved the idea of the forum for him to share his experiences. And JD, I love your open approach and look forward to meeting up with you.

 

Thanks sweetie as your input and kindness is always appreciated very much as I look forward to meeting you too. Pray maybe one day me and WG will meet as well. Depending if I could stand being paddled or flogged. . Lol

[mike carey]

Depending if I could stand being paddled or flogged.

Gosh, do you want to do that to me or for me to do it to you?? Sigh!

[+ sync]

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

 

While I understand your view, I lean the opposite way. Should the client ever read this thread, I would hope that an 8+-year relationship with JD would prompt him to contact JD and offer an apology for having mishandled the situation.

 

As an aside, I notice your ranking is Apprentice, which suggests you are fairly new to posting in the forums. If that is the case, you might benefit from knowing that dictating thread deletions to Daddy is playing with fire.

[mike carey]

I think it's letting other working guys know how a class act handles these type of situations, and who doesn't want to be class

I know you are talking to working guys, not clients, Killian. In this thread the discussion has been classy so far. Your intervention is always classy, Killian!

[AdamSmith]

We often post on the forum to make others aware of what we have gone through and how we solved the problem.

 

And speaking as a client, it never hurts to be reminded How Not To Be An Asshole.

 

(Except the serviceable kind. )

[JDXXX]

While I understand your view, I lean the opposite way. Should the client ever read this thread, I would hope that an 8+-year relationship with JD would prompt him to contact JD and offer an apology for having mishandled the situation.

 

As an aside, I notice your ranking is Apprentice, which suggests you are fairly new to posting in the forums. If that is the case, you might benefit from knowing that dictating thread deletions to Daddy is playing with fire.

 

Absolutely Sync. Samething I said as well. I think what I posted is quite justified, and wouldn't have posted if I felt it was unsafe or would jeopardize my relationship further if my client was an active forum member(which he's not at all).

[JDXXX]

And speaking as a client, it never hurts to be reminded How Not To Be An Asshole.

 

(Except the serviceable kind. )

 

. Well said, Adam. Couldn't have said it better myself, but us working boys gotta remain "classy" you know. .

[mike carey]

And speaking as a client, it never hurts to be reminded How Not To Be An Asshole.

 

(Except the serviceable kind.)

Oh, if I can be the kind of arseholes one of our esteemed escorts would take on, I would be more than happy!

[bigvalboy]

 

God bless New York..... Hottest men on the planet. Period.

[mike carey]

Oh Killian, if I am ever in NYC, you are on my list!

[+ DERRIK]

I would try to assume good faith on you client and fellow escort

[corndog]

I think you did the right thing by taking care of your colleague and making sure he got his fair share of the fee. It wasn't necessary for you do this, but it showed a great deal of integrity, and I'm a believer in karma... this good deed will come back to you someday.

 

Assuming that you want to see this client again in the future, I would send the client a quick email or text reading something like:

"Hey (client), as we were leaving the other night we realized that you'd made a mistake when preparing our payment envelopes. I think that you paid me a little more than you intended and accidentally shorted (other escort's name). We sorted it all out, and I gave him some of the cash from my envelope, so we're all square now."

 

I know that you don't necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt, but sending him a message like this serves two possible purposes:

1. In the unlikely event it was an honest mistake, he'll read this diplomatic message at face value, be slightly embarrassed, grateful to you for fixing things, and impressed with your integrity.

2. If he did this on purpose, it will very subtly put him on notice that you're aware of his shenanigans, and he won't try anything like that again. At the same time, you've not directly accused of him of any wrongdoing, so he can't get defensive or try to turn it around and make you the bad guy.

[Nebost]

I think you did the right thing by taking care of your colleague and making sure he got his fair share of the fee. It wasn't necessary for you do this, but it showed a great deal of integrity, and I'm a believer in karma... this good deed will come back to you someday.

 

Assuming that you want to see this client again in the future, I would send the client a quick email or text reading something like:

"Hey (client), as we were leaving the other night we realized that you'd made a mistake when preparing our payment envelopes. I think that you paid me a little more than you intended and accidentally shorted (other escort's name). We sorted it all out, and I gave him some of the cash from my envelope, so we're all square now."

 

I know that you don't necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt, but sending him a message like this serves two possible purposes:

1. In the unlikely event it was an honest mistake, he'll read this diplomatic message at face value, be slightly embarrassed, grateful to you for fixing things, and impressed with your integrity.

2. If he did this on purpose, it will very subtly put him on notice that you're aware of his shenanigans, and he won't try anything like that again. At the same time, you've not directly accused of him of any wrongdoing, so he can't get defensive or try to turn it around and make you the bad guy.

 

I think this is such a smart and gracious response. On the one hand, eight years is a long time to have a client, and that relationship should be considered of great value. On the other, it is hurtful to be cheated even out of a relatively small amount especially by someone you hold in high regard. A response like this lets him potentially take the high road yet lets him know that you're not oblivious to being cheated. It's good business sense, and good people sense.

[TruHart1]

I think you did the right thing by taking care of your colleague and making sure he got his fair share of the fee. It wasn't necessary for you do this, but it showed a great deal of integrity, and I'm a believer in karma... this good deed will come back to you someday.

 

Assuming that you want to see this client again in the future, I would send the client a quick email or text reading something like:

"Hey (client), as we were leaving the other night we realized that you'd made a mistake when preparing our payment envelopes. I think that you paid me a little more than you intended and accidentally shorted (other escort's name). We sorted it all out, and I gave him some of the cash from my envelope, so we're all square now."

 

I know that you don't necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt, but sending him a message like this serves two possible purposes:

1. In the unlikely event it was an honest mistake, he'll read this diplomatic message at face value, be slightly embarrassed, grateful to you for fixing things, and impressed with your integrity.

2. If he did this on purpose, it will very subtly put him on notice that you're aware of his shenanigans, and he won't try anything like that again. At the same time, you've not directly accused of him of any wrongdoing, so he can't get defensive or try to turn it around and make you the bad guy.

I think this is such a smart and gracious response. On the one hand, eight years is a long time to have a client, and that relationship should be considered of great value. On the other, it is hurtful to be cheated even out of a relatively small amount. A response like this lets him potentially take the high road yet lets him know that you're not oblivious to being cheated. It's good business sense, and good people sense.

Many, many great responses here to your personally taking responsibility for a questionable action (whether purposely or accidental) by your client. I think the two posts quoted above distill the essence of your innate class in "making it right" with the escort you invited into the scene with your VIP client, JD, including what you might consider doing regarding the client (who has been the recipient of your VIP treatment for over 8 years) leaving you out of the loop in trying to negotiate a lower fee with the third escort!

 

I am sure, knowing how you have handled other situations during your escorting career, that you will take all this advice and decide the best course of action (or non-action) for YOUR situation and business with this particular client (you've already done the right thing for the other escort by covering for your client's short-changing his fee!)

 

As always, you are a class act, JD!

 

TruHart1

[JDXXX]

UPDATE:

 

Hello Fellow Forum Members:

 

Heading out the door to take my client(Who met with me and my escort friend) out here in Detroit for lunch. During the course of the luncheon I will bring up the discrepancy that took place with shortening my friend of his fee, and me having to not only fit the bill for the unfortunately occurrence, but had to take the heat for his wrong doing.

 

Will keep you all updated later this afternoon of the outcome, and what his overall reaction was. Hopefully it'll be pleasant. . We'll see.

 

STAY TUNED!!!!

 

HUGS,

[+ WmClarke]

Im

UPDATE:

 

Hello Fellow Forum Members:

 

Heading out the door to take my client(Who met with me and my escort friend) out here in Detroit for lunch. During the course of the luncheon I will bring up the discrepancy that took place with shortening my friend of his fee, and me having to not only fit the bill for the unfortunately occurrence, but had to take the heat for his wrong doing.

 

Will keep you all updated later this afternoon of the outcome, and what his overall reaction was. Hopefully it'll be pleasant. . We'll see.

 

STAY TUNED!!!!

 

HUGS,

I'm on the edge of my seat. Any updates?

[JDXXX]

Im

 

I'm on the edge of my seat. Any updates?

 

Hey Will,

 

Will update it later today as I'm having laptop issues. . Using my phone for internet access. I'll have my laptop back later today.

[JDXXX]

Conclusion:

 

Hello Everybody,

 

First Off: I need to apologize for taking so long in posting of what was the final outcome of this matter I'm about to reveal as my computer has been on the fritz, and been using my phone for internet purposes to do small post on the forum and there, but nothing big until now.

 

Second: I want to Thank you guys for contributing to this thread by voicing your opinion, thoughts, and advice. Your input help influence on how I handled this "awkward" matter with my client which led to in the end to great results that were sort of a shocker as I didn't expect at all what your about to hear what went down.

 

Third: I have been traveling on tour all over the place, so finally getting sometime to myself to give of the full summary to this thread of the ending result....Finally.

 

Whew!!!

 

After taking in of what all of you here on the forum have graciously suggested and advised, in good faith I followed your leads on how to resolve this, and handled the situation mighty well with all of your guidance, but found out some devastating news regarding my friends dishonesty, and his dishonesty has cost him a working partner for future sessions, and a client as this character played both of us.

 

After I slept on my anger of what my escort friend has shared of my client ripping him off of 25% of his fee, I cooled down with a good night's sleep, and the next morning, I called my client to ask him to lunch at his hotel for which he graciously accepted.

 

We met, and were having a lovely meal together so far, and during the course of the meal, I went over with him of the shortchange of my escort friend's fee, and how I took responsibility in paying the other escort of what was missing from his full fee, and gave an extra $25.00 as a bonus for the inconvenience of his mistake/wrong doing to my escort friend.

 

Like I told my client, I asked my escort friend to join in the 3-way as well, so therefore, it's my responsibility to take care of him if he was not paid properly from per the client, and make the situation as fair as possible, so no one will look bad or done wrong.

 

My client was getting tears in his eyes(for one due to the embarrassment of how what he purposely tried to get away with got back to me) over the fact I was highly disappointed how he wronged my friend who happen to provide him excellent service according to what my client told me he enjoyed my escort friend tremendously.

 

Little did I know, the client shared with me that he only asked to pay my friend more at a later time was due to fact he was short on funds in paying me a fair tip as he always pays, and secondly, he booked my friend again for the next following day for a one-on-one session, and my client said my escort friend agreed for my client to pay him on the next session they have scheduled in they're private one-on-one conversation while I was in the shower.

 

The client went as far as showing me the text log where my escort friend was on his way to his hotel, and even at one point confirmed 3 hours before they're session of my client paying him the remaining fee he was owed him from the night of the 3-way with me.

 

Was I pissed seeing that my friend bone-faced lied to me.....OH YEAH!!!

 

Not only did I come to find out my friend was a backstabbing liar, but manipulated me into paying him extra money he wasn't entitled to, and point the blame for his lie to the client who didn't wrong him in the first place as his arrangement was something he agreed in letting my client pay him in they're private one-on-one session the next following day.

 

My client have agreed not to hire my friend any longer for future appointments, and actually the client paid me an extra $400 bucks for all the trouble I went through in the end for my friend tricking me. Wasn't necessary as I told my client he didn't have to do that as I owe him an apology but he felt bad how my friend told me about the undercover meeting by getting money out of me by lying on my client for something he didn't do as he didn't rip him off after-all.

 

In the end, I gave the client back to $400 dollars to let him know I don't need it, but do appreciate it very much as I can't accept it knowing I didn't earn it or want him to give me out of guilt for something didn't do wrong to my friend after all.

 

The client was looking to book another 3-way with both me and my escort friend when he comes to see me for a weekend visit in Los Angeles, but has decided from his deceitful actions towards both of us, my client has decided not to no longer engage in his services and asked about working with escorts in LA such as Alec Andrews, Ryan Thick, Steven Kessler, Adam Russo, or AJ Irons. He shared he's been with Alec, Ryan, and AJ back in 2014 during his back and forth visits in LA during that year. He hasn't had the pleasure yet of meeting with Steven Kesslar or Adam Russo, but has them on his bucket list.

 

However, I did aware the client that from now on in a 3-way situation with him, that he would need to pay the guys upfront before the session, and lemme count the money they're promised, and have it ready in an envelope to give them when they arrive. Thanks for the suggestion, Corndog as your guidance on that is quite appreciated indeed, and helpful for better business in the future. .

 

I told the client that all of these men I knew and adored on a professional level are great men in they're own way, and would be quite happy with whoever he chose to do another 3-way with as I'm happy either way it goes. I gave all these wonderful and talented men such high praises because they are worthy of high respect as they devote they're time, and themselves in satisfying the client to BEST of they're ability. They're are many other escorts out there who have the same dedication to whom I haven't met yet, but will have the pleasure in meeting someday.

 

I am very disappointed in my friend manipulative behavior in double-crossing me and my client. This dramatic experience has taught me where I stand with him, and will not trust him with VIP clients as he's not classy, but messy. .

 

This whole mess has taught me where I stand with my client which has allowed us to have even a closer bond regarding trust, and loyalty. 8+ years to have such a VIP client is a lot to give up, and grateful he was able to show me by this text log how my so-called friend showed his "true colors" as his communication with the client gave away how dishonest and low-down he is.

 

It's ashame how I helped someone land an opportunity, and in the end, it blew up in my face with his unprofessional tactics. Since he was a well-known escort, and a buddy I've worked with in the past, I would have never thought he would stoop this low by conning us like he did.

 

It's okay - we learn from what life has to throw at us and move on to bigger and better things. Tomorrow is a brand new day - you live it to the fullest and enjoy it.

 

At least out of this bad news me and the client have developed even a bigger bond, and thanks to you all here on the forum guiding me in the right direction, and with strong support, I was able to save my relationship with the client, and to where we both came out of this smelling like rose. .

[TruHart1]

I am pleased it worked out so well for you and your VIP client, JD! It sounds as if the only one who actually will be burned by this whole thing is your dishonest (and selfish) escort friend, who will lose not only a repeat client but also the trust of a good friend in you!

 

TruHart1

[whipped guy]

When something seemingly bad happens it has always been my philosophy to try to turn that bad situation into something good as there is usually a sliver lining in there somewhere.

 

That's what happened in this case. You acted wisely. It's not what I had recommended above, but then again I was not privy to the personalities involved. Somehow, after sleeping on it you instinctively knew how to investigate things further. After all, why would this client who had been so gracious for so many years suddenly turn into a ripoff artist?

 

Long story short: Something good did indeed come out of this. You discovered your "friend"s" true colors and you will have an even stronger bond with your client.

[+ WmClarke]

Conclusion:

 

Hello Everybody,

 

First Off: I need to apologize for taking so long in posting of what was the final outcome of this matter I'm about to reveal as my computer has been on the fritz, and been using my phone for internet purposes to do small post on the forum and there, but nothing big until now.

 

Second: I want to Thank you guys for contributing to this thread by voicing your opinion, thoughts, and advice. Your input help influence on how I handled this "awkward" matter with my client which led to in the end to great results that were sort of a shocker as I didn't expect at all what your about to hear what went down.

 

Third: I have been traveling on tour all over the place, so finally getting sometime to myself to give of the full summary to this thread of the ending result....Finally.

 

Whew!!!

 

After taking in of what all of you here on the forum have graciously suggested and advised, in good faith I followed your leads on how to resolve this, and handled the situation mighty well with all of your guidance, but found out some devastating news regarding my friends dishonesty, and his dishonesty has cost him a working partner for future sessions, and a client as this character played both of us.

 

After I slept on my anger of what my escort friend has shared of my client ripping him off of 25% of his fee, I cooled down with a good night's sleep, and the next morning, I called my client to ask him to lunch at his hotel for which he graciously accepted.

 

We met, and were having a lovely meal together so far, and during the course of the meal, I went over with him of the shortchange of my escort friend's fee, and how I took responsibility in paying the other escort of what was missing from his full fee, and gave an extra $25.00 as a bonus for the inconvenience of his mistake/wrong doing to my escort friend.

 

Like I told my client, I asked my escort friend to join in the 3-way as well, so therefore, it's my responsibility to take care of him if he was not paid properly from per the client, and make the situation as fair as possible, so no one will look bad or done wrong.

 

My client was getting tears in his eyes(for one due to the embarrassment of how what he purposely tried to get away with got back to me) over the fact I was highly disappointed how he wronged my friend who happen to provide him excellent service according to what my client told me he enjoyed my escort friend tremendously.

 

Little did I know, the client shared with me that he only asked to pay my friend more at a later time was due to fact he was short on funds in paying me a fair tip as he always pays, and secondly, he booked my friend again for the next following day for a one-on-one session, and my client said my escort friend agreed for my client to pay him on the next session they have scheduled in they're private one-on-one conversation while I was in the shower.

 

The client went as far as showing me the text log where my escort friend was on his way to his hotel, and even at one point confirmed 3 hours before they're session of my client paying him the remaining fee he was owed him from the night of the 3-way with me.

 

Was I pissed seeing that my friend bone-faced lied to me.....OH YEAH!!!

 

Not only did I come to find out my friend was a backstabbing liar, but manipulated me into paying him extra money he wasn't entitled to, and point the blame for his lie to the client who didn't wrong him in the first place as his arrangement was something he agreed in letting my client pay him in they're private one-on-one session the next following day.

 

My client have agreed not to hire my friend any longer for future appointments, and actually the client paid me an extra $400 bucks for all the trouble I went through in the end for my friend tricking me. Wasn't necessary as I told my client he didn't have to do that as I owe him an apology but he felt bad how my friend told me about the undercover meeting by getting money out of me by lying on my client for something he didn't do as he didn't rip him off after-all.

 

In the end, I gave the client back to $400 dollars to let him know I don't need it, but do appreciate it very much as I can't accept it knowing I didn't earn it or want him to give me out of guilt for something didn't do wrong to my friend after all.

 

The client was looking to book another 3-way with both me and my escort friend when he comes to see me for a weekend visit in Los Angeles, but has decided from his deceitful actions towards both of us, my client has decided not to no longer engage in his services and asked about working with escorts in LA such as Alec Andrews, Ryan Thick, Steven Kessler, Adam Russo, or AJ Irons. He shared he's been with Alec, Ryan, and AJ back in 2014 during his back and forth visits in LA during that year. He hasn't had the pleasure yet of meeting with Steven Kesslar or Adam Russo, but has them on his bucket list.

 

However, I did aware the client that from now on in a 3-way situation with him, that he would need to pay the guys upfront before the session, and lemme count the money they're promised, and have it ready in an envelope to give them when they arrive. Thanks for the suggestion, Corndog as your guidance on that is quite appreciated indeed, and helpful for better business in the future. .

 

I told the client that all of these men I knew and adored on a professional level are great men in they're own way, and would be quite happy with whoever he chose to do another 3-way with as I'm happy either way it goes. I gave all these wonderful and talented men such high praises because they are worthy of high respect as they devote they're time, and themselves in satisfying the client to BEST of they're ability. They're are many other escorts out there who have the same dedication to whom I haven't met yet, but will have the pleasure in meeting someday.

 

I am very disappointed in my friend manipulative behavior in double-crossing me and my client. This dramatic experience has taught me where I stand with him, and will not trust him with VIP clients as he's not classy, but messy. .

 

This whole mess has taught me where I stand with my client which has allowed us to have even a closer bond regarding trust, and loyalty. 8+ years to have such a VIP client is a lot to give up, and grateful he was able to show me by this text log how my so-called friend showed his "true colors" as his communication with the client gave away how dishonest and low-down he is.

 

It's ashame how I helped someone land an opportunity, and in the end, it blew up in my face with his unprofessional tactics. Since he was a well-known escort, and a buddy I've worked with in the past, I would have never thought he would stoop this low by conning us like he did.

 

It's okay - we learn from what life has to throw at us and move on to bigger and better things. Tomorrow is a brand new day - you live it to the fullest and enjoy it.

 

At least out of this bad news me and the client have developed even a bigger bond, and thanks to you all here on the forum guiding me in the right direction, and with strong support, I was able to save my relationship with the client, and to where we both came out of this smelling like rose. .

You hired an escort and had a session with him. Are you going to submit a review?

[MiamiLooker]

You hired an escort and had a session with him. Are you going to submit a review?

There won't be a review.

[JDXXX]

I am pleased it worked out so well for you and your VIP client, JD! It sounds as if the only one who actually will be burned by this whole thing is your dishonest (and selfish) escort friend, who will lose not only a repeat client but also the trust of a good friend in you!

 

TruHart1

 

I agree, Tru. Got burned royally, and so did the client, but just goes to show me how unprofessional and untrustworthy my friend can be when it comes to client/escorting opportunities for which he'll never see from me again in the future sorry to say.