An Awkward Escort Situation!!

[JDXXX]

Hi Everyone,

 

Recently walked in the door of my hotel feeling puzzled, shocked, and confused is to what just happened to me, and need you guys opinion if I handled this in the right manner or not, and if not, what ways to go about this in the future so this sort of disturbance won't occur again - hopefully.

 

Here it goes:

 

A regular client of mine(who is in Detroit on business right now) contacted me excited via text that I was in town visiting the sametime he was which was thrilling for me as well knowing It's a regular VIP client I've known for over 8 years, and enjoy very dearly with the highest respect as I show to ALL my clients.

 

However, what I'm about to mention further in the story is where this can get a little messy here......

 

The client and I met at his hotel as we kicked back having an intense deep conversation about politics, had a soft drink, and relaxed some before starting the "actual" session. He asked me about having a 3-way, and how do I feel about having another escort(of my choice) come over. I felt it was a good idea(as I love working with other brothers of mine in the business, always), but wanted it to be a person we BOTH agree on, and not make it all about me, and who I choose as he's part of us working together as a team as well.

 

We went online, and searched for someone we may find may fit to what were looking for which was a versatile top who also loves to fuck(my client who is a bottom) or get fucked(To be topped by me and the client).

 

As luck has it, a very well known escort friend of mine/porn actor I have worked with in the past on different porn scenes was in town, and happen to be available at the time me and my client was looking for a 3rd person to join in the action, and figured my friend would be the right man for the job at hand.

 

Both me and the client got him on the phone to set up some form of official meeting right away. Knowing what a sweetheart my friend is, and professional he was working with several times in the past, within 20 minutes he was at my client's hotel, and got busy servicing all parties involved immediately without any hesitation or questions about anything.

 

The session with my escort friend was highly successful, and the client was quite pleased with BOTH of our performances as we always enjoyed working together as a Tagteam Duo, and feel we deliver to the clients quite well together or separate.

 

Here is the part that goes from pure bliss to a hateful nightmare.......

 

The client and the escort friend of mine had a nice conversation out on the balcony after the session having a cigar together while I was in the shower getting ready to head to another client meeting/dinner. The client paid both me, and the escort as he greeted us both to the door with two envelops with our names on it along with a hug and kisses us goodbye. We get to the lobby of the hotel, and my friend counts his donation from the client and gasps. I looked at my friend as he says to me(and I quote), "That Motherfucking client of yours screwed me over - I think you should help compensate". Was I in shock to hear him say this.....YES!!

 

I remained calm, and to make sure he calmed down, I asked "what's wrong". My escort friend was promised a certain fee from my client(which was the same amount I was paid from what the client told me he was gonna pay him plus tip if he came to do the session), and my friend was right - he unfortunately was shortened $50.00 of his fee, plus tip. It was odd seeing the client did pay me $100.00 more then the usual tip he's done in the past. What happened was the client paid me my fee plus tip, and my friends tip(which he was promised by the client if he came to do the session).

 

What really got to me was my escort friend shared with me that my loyal client has revealed to him how much he paid me, and asked the escort (while I was in the shower) was it okay to pay him $50.00 less cause he didn't have enough for a tip, and wanted to tip both of us accordingly.

 

From what my escort friend indicated to me when the client asked him for this break in his fee he said absolutely not. So, the client honored it, and said he'll make it work, but didn't know my client was gonna shortened him to satisfy me in the end.

 

Once again, to remain calm, and not knowing what to do, I had to think what was the most noble, logical, and wise thing to do in a situation like this - I came up with a solution, and that was.....to give him the $50.00 difference he was promised, plus an extra $25 more to show how sorry I was for the inconvenience he had to endure from such humiliating behavior as the client tricked him in a very slick and smooth way it seems. Was better for me leave out of this whole thing with the lesser fee, and him have confidence in me being the bigger person taking responsibility for my clients actions, and make right for it. Better for me to do that(I think) then for him to say "fuck you - I'm never working with you or any client of yours again". I don't think he would say such a thing, but wouldn't blame him if he did(even though it wasn't me who did him wrong, but felt responsible cause it was my client).

 

After-all, my client, and I asked him to join in the session, so was only fair for me to bite the bullet, and take responsibility for my client's wrong doing to my escort friend. I felt terrible my friend was ripped off, and at the fact my client would disrespect him, and me in a horrific manner by doing such a unprofessional and daring stunt like this.

 

As I'm about to go to bed, I'm gonna sleep on this, and figure how to confront my client with this upsetting matter for which I DO NOT appreciate what he tried to attempt to do to my friend, and feel to a degree my client owes my friend an apology at least for putting him through something like that by ripping him off of his fee to help accommodate me which isn't right.

 

Wish the client could have talk with me first if he had some sort of cash shortage. Would have been best for me and my client to worked out his shortage of funds ourselves, and not have my friend go home with less as I would have had to have take the cut. That's so unethical, and quite unfair, and will go over this with the client so he'll know I don't condone in other escorts as well as for myself being ripped off.

 

Not my style or way of conducting business in a professional way. It's (again to me) unacceptable, and quite embarrassing for all parties involved for a well-to-do client to shorten an escort and not honor his word.

 

That's like the escort not performing based on his word, and expecting the client to still pay him. I know if I couldn't perform as an escort, I wouldn't expect the client to pay me as I would apologize for the inconvenience, and walk away without a dime. Didn't earn it, so why should I expect to be paid a cent for something I couldn't deliver. Not fair to me nor the client.

 

So uncalled for as I'm not only disappointed in my client, but don't know if I can trust him seeing he did this sneaky-type of behavior to my friend who didn't deserve such treatment in being ripped off.

 

Anyhow, Hope I did the right thing by paying my friend what was fair accordingly, and if not, what do you guys think I should have done differently?

[rguer]

I think you did the right thing, and I don't think you should work with either the escort or the client in the future. Maybe the client if he calls you on his own to explain. If you then have to bring it up, though, perhaps you shouldn't trust him.

[bobchitown]

"We get to the lobby of the hotel, and my friend counts his donation..." please tell me you didn't count the money and compare notes in the hotel lobby!!

 

I'm guessing that the client just got things miscounted - happened to me, and I once had to text a guy to way "please come back, I left half your money behind."

[JDXXX]

"We get to the lobby of the hotel, and my friend counts his donation..." please tell me you didn't count the money and compare notes in the hotel lobby!!

 

I'm guessing that the client just got things miscounted - happened to me, and I once had to text a guy to way "please come back, I left half your money behind."

 

Hey Bob,

 

No, we didn't compare notes on who got paid what. I don't disclose what the client paid me as on a high professional and ethical level - that's between me, the client, and the four walls of what dealings is being discussed or handled in that room. The client is the one who disclosed and revealed to the escort he pays me a certain fee which was why(as it's in the dialog of the story) my client asked the escort if he could pay him less this time, and make up the difference to him at another time to pay me the full rate cause he was short in funds. My escort friend said "Absolutely not" as he was promised his full fee plus tip, and the client said to him - it was okay, he'll get it for him, and not to worry.

 

Trust me, sweetheart, wasn't a miscalculation here as the client knew what he was doing or why else would he have asked my friend when I wasn't present, and was in the shower, if he could pay him less of the promised fee, and make up the difference another time? He was mainly trying to persuade my friend to do an IOU literally, and not honor his word. That's shady behavior for a client to do unto a escort by attempting to rip him off as it's unacceptable, and unprofessional behind all means for client to put the escort in that position, and on the same token, makes me look bad given of a bad impression of what kind of clients I keep, and to a point where maybe the escort would never want to work with me again thinking I'm gonna present him with shady clients. Definitely don't want that sort of reputation following you. LOL.

 

It's disappointing as the client is a very classy guy(at least from what I've experienced), so just baffled on how this could happen, and why he would do him wrong like that on purpose. Very sad.

[aaronpierce]

Do what you need to do to reconcile with your peer, It sounds like you were sincere in making things fair and just with him. The adage don't shit where you sleep comes to mind here.

 

As far as your client?. No good can come from confronting him. Be prepared to lose him if you do.

 

If "I" were to look at this on a spreadsheet perspective, I would rationalize some benefit of the doubt scenario, keep it to myself and give him another chance. I would refrain from saying a thing and continue enjoying my time and compensation from this client.

[Lookin]

First, I think you did the right thing by paying your escort friend the missing fifty bucks. The extra twenty-five was a nice touch.

 

Second, I don't see the need to confront your client now, while you're steamed. Why not wait till he contacts you next time, and see how you're feeling by then? If you're still upset, you can let him know. If you're past it, you can continue as before and maybe tell him that you took care of his faux pas for him.

[loverboy95]

I would say to confront the client and explain to him why he was in the wrong. I am actually curious to know what he says.

[mike carey]

I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that your client miscounted the money accidentally. As Lookin said, the last thing you need to do is confront him while you are annoyed with him.

[+ stevenkesslar]

Hi Everyone,

 

Recently walked in the door of my hotel feeling puzzled, shocked, and confused is to what just happened to me, and need you guys opinion if I handled this in the right manner or not, and if not, what ways to go about this in the future so this sort of disturbance won't occur again - hopefully.

 

Here it goes:

 

A regular client of mine(who is in Detroit on business right now) contacted me excited via text that I was in town visiting the sametime he was which was thrilling for me as well knowing It's a regular VIP client I've known for over 8 years, and enjoy very dearly with the highest respect as I show to ALL my clients.

 

However, what I'm about to mention further in the story is where this can get a little messy here......

 

The client and I met at his hotel as we kicked back having an intense deep conversation about politics, had a soft drink, and relaxed some before starting the "actual" session. He asked me about having a 3-way, and how do I feel about having another escort(of my choice) come over. I felt it was a good idea(as I love working with other brothers of mine in the business, always), but wanted it to be a person we BOTH agree on, and not make it all about me, and who I choose as he's part of us working together as a team as well.

 

We got online, and searched for someone we may find may fit to what were looking for which was a versatile top who also loves to fuck(my client who is a bottom) or get fucked(To be topped by me and the client).

 

As luck has it, a very well known escort friend of mine/porn actor I have worked with in the past on different porn scenes was in town, and happen to be available at the time me and my client was for a 3rd person to join in the action.

 

Both me and the client got him on the phone with him to set up the meeting. Knowing what a sweetheart he is, and professional he was, within 20 minutes he was at my client's hotel, and got busy servicing all parties involved immediately without any hesitation or questions about anything.

 

The session with my escort friend was highly successful, and the client was quite pleased with BOTH of our performances as we always enjoyed working together as a Tagteam Duo, and feel we deliver to the clients quite well together or separate.

 

Here is the part that goes from pure bliss to a hateful nightmare.......

 

The client and the escort friend of mine had a nice conversation out on the balcony after the session having a cigar together while I was in the shower getting ready to head to another client meeting/dinner. The client paid both me, and the escort as he greeted us both to the door with two envelops with our names on it along with a hug and kisses us goodbye. We get to the lobby of the hotel, and my friend counts his donation from the client and gasps. I looked at my friend as he says to me(and I quote), "That Motherfucking client of yours screwed me over - I think you should help compensate". Was I in shock to hear him say this.....YES!!

 

I remained calm, and to make sure he calmed down, I asked "what's wrong". My escort friend was promised a certain fee from my client(which was the same amount I was paid from what the client told me he was gonna pay him plus tip if he came to do the session), and my friend was right - he unfortunately was shortened $50.00 of his fee, plus tip. It was odd seeing the client did pay me $100.00 more then the usual tip he's done in the past. What happened was the client paid me my fee plus tip, and my friends tip(which he was promised by the client if he came to do the session).

 

What really got to me was my escort friend shared with me that my loyal client has revealed to him how much he paid me, and asked the escort (while I was in the shower) was it okay to pay him a $50.00 less cause he didn't have enough for a tip, and wanted to tip both of us accordingly.

 

From what my escort friend indicated to me when the client asked him for this break in his fee he said absolutely not. So, the client honored it, and said he'll make it work, but didn't know my client was gonna shortened him to satisfy me in the end.

 

Once again, to remain calm, and not knowing what to do, I had to think what was the most noble, logical, and wise thing to do in a situation like this - I came up with a solution, and that was.....to give him the $50.00 difference he was promised, plus an extra $25 more to show how sorry I was for the inconvenience he had to endure from such humiliating behavior as the client tricked him in a very slick and smooth way it seems. Was better for me leave out of this whole thing with the lesser fee, and him have confidence in me being the bigger person taking responsibility for my clients actions, and make right for it. Better for me to do that(I think) then for him to say "fuck you - I'm never working with you or any client of yours again". I don't think he would say such a thing, but wouldn't blame him if he did(even though it wasn't me who did him wrong, but felt responsible cause it was my client).

 

After-all, my client, and I asked him to join in the session, so was only fair for me to bite the bullet, and take responsibility for my client's wrong doing to my escort friend. I felt terrible my friend was ripped off, and at the fact my client would disrespect him, and me in a horrific manner by doing such a unprofessional and daring stunt like this.

 

As I'm about to go to bed, I'm gonna sleep on this, and figure how to confront my client with this upsetting matter for which I DO NOT appreciate what he tried to attempt to do to my friend, and feel to a degree my client owes my friend an apology at least for putting him through something like that by ripping him off of his fee to help accommodate me which isn't right.

 

Wish the client could have talk with me first if he was short of some cash. Would have been best for me and my client to worked out his shortage of funds ourselves, and not have my friend go home with less as I would have had to have take the cut. That's so unethical, and quite unfair, and will go over this with the client so he'll know I don't condone in other escorts as well as for myself being ripped off.

 

Not my style or way of conducting business in a professional way. It's (again to me) unacceptable, and quite embarrassing for all parties involved for a well-to-do client to shorten an escort and not honor his word.

 

That's like the escort not performing based on his word, and expecting the client to still pay him. I know if I couldn't perform as an escort, I wouldn't expect the client to pay me as I would apologize for the inconvenience, and walk away without a dime. Didn't earn it, so why should I expect to be paid a cent for something I couldn't deliver. Not fair to me nor the client.

 

So uncalled for as I'm not only disappointed in my client, but don't know if I can trust him seeing he did this sneaky-type of behavior to my friend who didn't deserve such treatment in being ripped off.

 

Anyhow, Hope I did the right thing by paying my friend what was fair accordingly, and if not, what do you guys think I should have done differently?

 

Your choices sound good. Make a client's dumb decision right after the fact. The whole thing just sounds dumb. If I understand the math right he had enough cash to pay both of you what you'd agreed to, plus tip one or both of you. He just chose not to. Dumb choice.

 

Having said that, this is small change. I could go on for hours about minor transgressions - from my point of view - I've experienced. Clients who did not have the cash, or did not have enough cash, or who did similar things in 3ways that felt unfair to one or both of us.

 

I had an even more confusing 3way with a very well known escort who felt ripped off, and I won't even attempt to describe the details, other than to say the escort had missed a flight and was therefore clearly partly to blame for a premium charged on his plane ticket when he did arrive the next day. He felt underpaid, and the client was not happy to hear that.

 

The situation you describe sounds pretty clear and pretty minor. I would definitely ask the client why he did what he did and let him know you were not pleased - which it sounds like was his intention. I'd guess he thought this would please you. I doubt his goal was to piss you both off.

 

This reinforces that you can never be too clear, even when it involved escorts who are class acts and experienced clients that you think you know and can trust. There should have been a clear agreement about who was gonna be paid what, and everyone should have simply honored it.

 

Having said that, guess what? Shit happens, and this is a very minor thing in my view.

[+ WilliamM]

Having said that, guess what? Shit happens, and this is a very minor thing in my view.

 

Many years ago I either got the cost of evening wrong by a relatively small amount, or the guy got it wrong by a very small amount. I gave him every dollar I had in my wallet, except the money to get home. He still was not satisfied.

 

I felt very bad.

 

But, Steven is right; shit happens and the guy ended up with almost the amount he thought we agreed upon.

 

Looking back it was a very minor thing

[+ Gar1eth]

I for some reason almost never used to count out the fee beforehand then at the end I would count it out for the escort. I always told them I wasn't trying to insult them-which was true-I wasn't- but I had a tendency to miscount. So that might be what happened here.

 

Gman

[craigville beach]

I think you did the right thing. You showed your fellow escort the respect you both deserve. As far as the client is concerned, you need to look at how successful your dealings with him have been overall. Sometimes in business you need to take a hit to keep the business deals flowing. Now you know the character of the client you can alter your business relationship with him or just move forward.

 

You shouldn't have been put into this situation, but you were and try and make the best of it.

[+ SundayZip]

If I had been in your shoes, I would have given the escort friend the $50 that he was shorted and also given him 50% of the total tip paid by the client. And I agree other posters who say that you should not confront the client until you've had some time to chill out. If you still fill the need to confront the client, wait until you see him again and find a non-confrontational way to talk about it.

[AdamSmith]

I agree with everybody that you did absolutely the right thing.

 

And that you learned something a little disappointing about this client, which you can now meditate on at leisure, and think about what to do, if anything, the next time you see him.

[whipped guy]

You acted correctly. Sleep on how you would approach the client. If you decide to continue the rationship (and I would) I would always keep his actions in the back of my mind and proceed with caution. In the future I would treat the client respectfully, but solely as a client should be treated, not as a friend should be treated. If one had to get "revenge" (and that's not the exact word I would like to use) it would be by continuing the relationship and charging him accordingly. After all, you are in business and he is part of your business. I would make him pay for his transgression, and he would be doing so with a smile on his face. From what I hear you are good at making people smile...

[mike carey]

From what I hear you are good at making people smile...

... or at making other facial or vocal gestures ...

[+ sync]

I believe your response to the situation exhibited the usual JD class and professionalism. I don't believe I would be so hesitant to seek a clarification from the client and the other escort.

 

Considering you were not privy to their conversation, I'm not suggesting a harsh confontation, but I would ask the client and the other escort why they would have that kind of a post-session fee negotiation without including the primary escort. I would let the client know that his actions, however well intentioned, have created personal and professional tensions between you and the other escort, which could have been avoided had you been included in the negotiations.

 

Your account of the exchange between you and the other escort suggests that he does not have your level of class and professionalism. He certainly was justified in expressing his displeasure with the client, but to saddle you with the responsibility for the client's integrity and demand financial restitution from you was bad form ($50.00 is not a quality-of-life-changing amount of money). Further, if your escort friend has never before been underpaid by a client, he has experienced a very unusual escorting career.

 

This is just another pothole in the road of life, JD, it deserves some attention, but it shouldn't slow down your journey or dim your outlook.

[Guest Starbuck]

You acted graciously to resolve the immediate problem. I think you should now weigh the circumstances ...

 

a VIP client you've kept for over 8 years -- VS -- a $75 aggravation

 

... and proceed in the manner that best serves your own interests.

[BaronArtz]

JD, if you had the VIP client for 8+ years, have you ever given him a free session? Honestly, there is no need to answer my question, I am just curious.

 

I would let the $75 issue slide. Think of the $$$ you made of this client in the past and possibly, will make in the future. Don't rock the boat. Don't kill the goose with the golden eggs. Just let it go.

[YoungAD]

JD, if you had the VIP client for 8+ years, have you ever given him a free session? Honestly, there is no need to answer my question, I am just curious.

 

I would let the $75 issue slide. Think of the $$$ you made of this client in the past and possibly, will make in the future. Don't rock the boat. Don't kill the goose with the golden eggs. Just let it go.

 

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

[BaronArtz]

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

 

I agree with that!

[+ Topseed]

Seems to me there is a long, long list of agendas in this thread. Just my $0.02 . (and not $75. )

[mike carey]

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

I get the feeling that JD doesn't care if the client sees this. In effect that means he is prepared to let his initial annoyance with the client be public. All good, if the client sees it he is chastened and perhaps pissed off with JD. If he doesn't see it he is none the wiser. This whole issue could go for or against the original client. Let's see how!

[JDXXX]

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

 

I don't think you have to worry about that as the client is NOT a forum member. He's married and extremely discreet. He won't even do reviews, so they'll be no need to do such a thing by deleting the thread, but appreciate the concern.

[whipped guy]

"VIP" client or not, should the client ever see this thread he's probably never going to hire JD or the other escort ever again. I would ask Daddy to delete the thread and practice a little more discretion next time.

This crossed my mind as well. However, many clients and even a few escorts have no clue that this forum even exists. Indeed, when I told a couple of working guys about it they were genuinely surprised! I would hope that the client has no clue, or if he is aware of this place does not normally participate.

 

However, lots of married guys who are very discreet do read this forum even if they don't actively participate. Some even participate!