CURRENT STATE OF THE HOTEL END OF OUR BUSINESS????

[Michael Wayne]

I would say that during my youth in Palm Beach and Ft Liquordale (oops ft Lauderdale) that well over 50% of my biz was hotel out calls. Ah those days at The Breakers, the Ritz Manalapan, The Four Seasons Ocean Grand, etc those were the good ol days for sure! Then when I moved to San Antonio it was even higher close to 60 percent of my outcalls were down on the riverwalk. new Orleans was about 55%. Now I started to notice a precipitous decline when I moved back to Florida and it ran about 25 % the last few years. Now the reason for the post: My new home city of DC has been good to me....actually VERY GOOD!! THANK YOU DC and NOVA and MD!!! But....while my overall biz remains excellent the hotel biz is off...way off! Like only 10% of total outcalls. Is this happening to any of you escorts anywhere in the USA or internationally?? If so then I am wondering if anyone has any plausible explanations for this mystery??? ALso while I hear from certain hotels all the time (like Dupont Circle Hotel, Hyatt West End, Helix, Liason, Key Bridge Marriott) there are other BIG FAMOUS hotels that I never hear from. It seems hard to crack this nut. In every other city I have ever worked in I ALWAYS had clients in the 4 and 5 star properties but here in DC the Mandaren Oriental Is Silent as is the Four Seasons Georgetown. It is like the Ritz does not even exist here yet I walk by it every day! Tis a mystery to me. @ www.rentboy.com/magicmikey @ www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[Diverdan]

Mickey,

That is a most interesting observation... I will be curious to hear responses from your colleagues. I do know a lot of very high end properties have much more security these days and they train staff who work in their bars, bellmen, and others that are often in the lobby areas to be on the lookout for non-guests who seem to be hanging around.

There is also a certain amount of extra vigilance and watching when there is a significant discrepancy in age and appearance between couples, whether it is of two men, two women or a man and a woman. Your post will cause me to ask some of my friends who are in the hotel business about your observation.

[doitb4ugo]

Could it be that a lot of clients are in hotels as part of their employment(on business). Possibly many businesses are looking for good hotels that are not too pricey and who will provide them with some discounting for a chunk of their business. I would guess that these high end hotels don't do that. My employer has a short list in every major travel destination...all very nice but not too ultra chic.

[AdamSmith]

My experience supports what Rich says above. In my work I write about the software business, and a lot of software companies have an annual wingding for us press and industry analysts where they fly us to some location and put us up in a hotel, where for 2 days they ply us with their story for the coming year.

 

Back in 2004, one typical company I cover brought us to NYC and put us up at the St. Regis. Then in 2005 and 2006 it was the New York Palace--nice, but no St. Regis. Then 2007 and 2008 were at the Waldorf-Astoria: not the new Waldorf Towers, but the original Waldorf where maintenance and upkeep no longer extend beyond the lobby and public spaces. Then in 2009 they moved the event to Dallas, where they're headquartered, and put us up in a Marriott. There it has remained.

[jimboivyo]

what is bad for one escort is great for another and vice versa. it's dependent on how you do biz, your age, your body, your look.

 

mandarin oriental, ritz, four seasons and other higher end hotels are keeping full. the last three mandarin hotels I checked into were booked solid.

[+ DickyF]

A few months ago there was a sting at a DC Doubletree that caught a famous ESPN announcer. He was responding to a fake ad for female prostition.

That made me reluctant to go to a hotel of an escort I didn't know. A lot of DC folks have security clearances that could be jeopardized through an arrest.

[Michael Wayne]

Dickys' answer caught my eye. But I am not talking about a client coming to my hotel but my going to their hotel. Certainly the incident he referred to and also the stuff at the Donovan are factors. Security clearances yes! But I am talking about visitors...not locals. Jimboi...I wasn't discussing hotel occupancy rates. That isn't the issue. The hotels are full and we all know that. that is the frustrating part from a marketing point of view. I see a full hotel where no one is calling from. I see a different hotel two blocks away that I am receiving calls from. I don't loiter in lobbies in answer to that response. I go straight to a clients' room so as to be most discreet. Anyway very disappointed to not hear any fellow pros' takes on this . Are any escorts still on Daddys???? Just asking. I am still on here because occasionally I still get good new clients' from Daddys. May I attempt to answer my own question? I think it is the hook up apps. It is easy to get laid these days. It may not be a quality lay and sure as hell won't be discreet if the guy isn't a pro but it is what it is. Second answer: the rise of the 75-120 dollar part time craigslist/backpage hustler. So much danger lurks here but people seem willing to risk it all for one orgasm. They get robbed, get an std or their wife gets a call....but .... oh well! But even with all this we have not explained it well I fancy. We are missing something here. Could it be that we gays are just not a stigma anymore. A client of mine recently said , "We are trendy now. We are not just in...we are way in!" Now that is a great thing for the gay world but probably not for the gigolo biz...........Just my two cent and calling em like I se them from the front lines of our ever changing, maddening and crazy biz............ MIKEY IN DC @ www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[Mocha]

Hey Mikey,

 

Yes, hotel bookings are way down. I'm on tour, and I've not been called out to a hotel during the whole 2 weeks. When I'm local, I also rarely get called to hotels...but as usual, the last was someone from DC. DC is like one of the few cities where hotel clients still exist in this country. Everywhere else, they say their coming to town...then cancel. The other thing is, price of hotels have crept up. Many clients aren't getting free hotel rooms by their company. If they are, their colleagues are up their ass the entire trip. Whenever I do go to big downtown hotels to meet a client, I see people with giant gaggles of co-workers drinking, partying, being obnoxious, etc. (I actually had to call a manager on one group few years ago because they were being overly drunk and obnoxious during happy hour...on a BUSINESS TRIP) seems there's no privacy to hire anyone. I find the clients who have contacted me from hotels, have been leisure travelers.

 

I'm actually okay with not doing hotels provided there's enough coming to me or residential outcalls. But it is weird, especially when I used to live in Texas, I could pick out every hotel in Dallas that I'd seen a client in. And how parking at riverwalk felt so outrageou$. Like I mentioned in my other thread, there were certainly no hotel outcalls to speak of...and haven't seen a Texas client at THEIR hotel probably since my 2011 trip to Houston.