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You said you thought wellbutrin was. All of the drugs Steven listed are controlled substances.

 

~ Boomer ~

 

 

I said I thought it was a cathinone, which it is. But it's pretty clear, since you can get it in any drugstore, that it is not a controlled substance in the sense that the other drugs on the list are. Thus, not all cathinones are considered illegal drugs of abuse.

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Does that fall under "off label" use?

 

~ Boomer ~

 

Maybe now. But in the twentieth century, I think both drugs were used extensively as "psychostimulants." I think, in selected patients, with proper doctor supervision, they could still be used this way. They work fast. You swallow one and 45 minutes later you feel great. I could see a benefit for the deeply depressed who need to feel better NOW.

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Depends on the antidepressant. Methylphenidate and amphetamine are both used to treat depresssion, and both are schedule II drugs.

 

These drugs are stimulants usually used to treat adhd. They have antidepressant properties but are not considered "antidepressants" per se.

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Here's another classification:

 

Schedule I

 

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

 

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

 

Schedule II

 

Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, less abuse potential than Schedule I drugs, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:

 

Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin

 

Schedule III

 

Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:

 

Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone

 

Schedule IV

 

Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are:

 

Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol

 

Schedule V

 

Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes. Some examples of Schedule V drugs are:

 

cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin

 

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I had a roomie who took xanax a lot. He gave me a few of his pills. They made me incredibly absent-minded. No thanks, I like a clear head.

 

Yes, it is a major problem with xanax, especially if you take it for a while. But, it does not happen to everyone. Perhaps your roomie, like me, does not absent-minded or memory problems. But, that may eventually happen with both of us.

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Yes, it is a major problem with xanax, especially if you take it for a while. But, it does not happen to everyone. Perhaps your roomie, like me, does not absent-minded or memory problems. But, that may eventually happen with both of us.

 

 

Oh he did, the effect on his memory scared him straight. He was taking it because he was so upset over the death of a close friend. His doc gave him a script for xanax to help him cope. I though he was taking too much of it and encouraged him to take less. He would retort that his doctor gave it to him, and wouldn't give him anything that was harmful so he was sure that it was all right. He came home one evening, scared half to death because he had just come out of a blackout of about 8 hours duration. He had no memory of anything he had done for that period of time. Seeing a window of opportunity, I pounced - "It's that xanax, get rid of it!!" He didn't need any convincing.

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He came home one evening, scared half to death because he had just come out of a blackout of about 8 hours duration. He had no memory of anything he had done for that period of time. Seeing a window of opportunity, I pounced - "It's that xanax, get rid of it!!" He didn't need any convincing.

 

I need to warn other people about suddenly stopping xanax. It's highly addictive. People have landed in the hopsital when they stopped xanax on their own.

 

Rudynate, I am extremely glad that your roommate and you stopped when you did -- extremely glad.

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I need to warn other people about suddenly stopping xanax. It's highly addictive. People have landed in the hopsital when they stopped xanax on their own.

 

Rudynate, I am extremely glad that your roommate and you stopped when you did -- extremely glad.

 

I'm a lightweight when it comes to drug side effects. Nothing will make me stop a drug faster than if it gives me headaches, makes me sleepy, etc.

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These drugs are stimulants usually used to tread adhd. They have antidepressant properties but are not considered "antidepressants" per se.

 

They're not approved as anti-depressants by the FDA, but that doesn't mean they aren't used as anti-depressants.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1411740

 

It seems to be more commonly used in combination with other anti-depressants.

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Kind of oldish post but after my recent experiences I'm telling the escorts I'm not into PNP even if they post they don't do drugs or "you can" or post nothing at all. The moment I have told them that - I never receive a call back or call is quickly terminated. One escort said he definitely doesn't do drugs and doesn't like clients high either but this response is getting more and more rare.

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I remember a number of years ago having a wonderful repeat client. He was an interesting guy, 40's, married, w a wonderful working-class British accent. I was studying reguarly w a dialect coach at the time, and was fascinated w tbis guys personality and accent. He could talk a blue streak and the most bizarre (to me) turns of phrase would pop out his mouth. I always looked forward to seeing him. One day out of the blue be asked if I could get cocaine for him. I told him I wouldnt even know where to ask (which was true, naive as that sounds), and he let the matter drop. Soon after this man who was incredibly articulate and verbose would show up on my doorstep for sessions high --- evidently he'd found his source --- and his entire personality was altered. He could barely manage a coherent word, let alone a sentence. The sex was still good but it wasn't joyfull anymore. It was impossible to connect w him, and it made me kinda sad. Some time later I decided i'd had enough and when he called (sober) i told him i'd love to see him but only if he were sober. He tried every tactic in the book to change my mind, but i wouldn't. He finally ceded, and swore he'd come to our appt "straight". Of course he was high as a kite when he showed up,

pretending he wasn't. I felt like i was dealing w a child (which in many ways emotionally he had become) and a fierce push-and-pull ensued, ending w his saying it was his birthday and for that reason I should give him "one on the house". We debated (it really was more of a debate than an argument) fiercely, and after much time was finally able to "escort" him out of the apt. with the intention of getting him safely into a taxi. But our loud (on his part half-incoherant) debate carried onto the street as he was determined to change my mind. He refused the taxis I would hail him and finally he walked off. Never heard from him again. Hopefully he's safe wherever he is. Maybe because of the "wholesome-ish" nature of my ad copy and the fact that my phone is off by midnight, this isn't an issue i've had to address since.

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Maybe because of the "wholesome-ish" nature of my ad copy and the fact that my phone is off by midnight, this isn't an issue i've had to address since.

 

While I'm not suggesting you should keep your phone on late, I did want to speak up for possibly the few of us who might call at odd hours. I have never as far as I can remember called an escort while drunk or while high (that part was easy as I don't use drugs). However when I worked I had varying schedules- which as a result meant I never had a regular sleeping pattern. And I sometimes became horny in the wee hours. So if an escort showed 24 hour availability, occasionally I might call rather late. I've since learned that at least on M4RN, and maybe Rentboy, that ads that list 24 hour availability show up higher on the city page.

 

Gman

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