Are we at war (cyber) with China? Would next 9/11 be "cyberterrorism"?

[marylander1940]

Are we at war (cyber) with China? Would next 9/11 be "cyberterrorism" ?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberterrorism

 

Four million current and former federal employees, from nearly every government agency, might have had their personal information stolen by Chinese hackers, U.S. investigators said.

 

U.S. officials believe this could be the biggest breach ever of the government's computer networks. China called the allegation irresponsible.

 

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which is conducting background checks, warned it was urging potential victims to monitor their financial statements and get new credit reports.

 

Some federal employees were angry.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked-personnel-management/

[anotherjohnindupont]

Yes!

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Could be. I often wonder how soon evil doers will access launch codes.

[bigvalboy]

Yes!

 

Yes..+1

[marylander1940]

Could be. I often wonder how soon evil doers will access launch codes.

 

Do you mean Isis?

 

I would call the Chinese and Russians the enemy and I'm sure they call us the same way.

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Do you mean Isis?

 

I would call the Chinese and Russians the enemy and I'm sure they call us the same way.

 

Evil doers across the board.

[sincitymix]

Tsk, Tsk. China says these allegations are unwarranted and etc etc etc.. basically they deny everything, even when caught they say the US is inflaming the issue and throwing around unfair and provocative accusations. Even if they get caught red handed, they say how dare you blame us, this insult is unforgiveable!

 

The new war is CyberTerrorism. I am pretty sure the US does it as well, only problem is, china can get a few million Hackers together under the guise of Social Club, and then deny deny deny.

[marylander1940]

Evil doers across the board.

 

Terrorists and criminals, enemy countries?

 

Bob for jobs in Virginia called fornicators like you and me "evil doers".

 

let's be more specific, not that it matters in this case...

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Terrorists and criminals, enemy countries?

 

Bob for jobs in Virginia called fornicators like you and me "evil doers".

 

let's be more specific, not that it matters in this case...

 

I'm not sure how "evildoers," when used within the context of a thread specifying a 9/11 scale cyber terror attack, could be construed to reference fornicators. However, to be more specific, my use of "evildoers" in this instance was a reference to any individual(s) intent on cyber attacking the military cyber defense systems of the United States of America or other nuclear power(s).

[marylander1940]

I'm not sure how "evildoers," when used within the context of a thread specifying a 9/11 scale cyber terror attack, could be construed to reference fornicators. However, to be more specific, my use of "evildoers" in this instance was a reference to any individual(s) intent on cyber attacking the military cyber defense systems of the United States of America or other nuclear power(s).

 

That's the way he called us... I was just quoting him in case you didn't know.

 

"evildoers" is a right wing way to describe, dehumanize and vilify the enemy, I'd rather just mentioning them by name: Chinese, Russian, the late Soviet Union, etc.

 

I'm out of here, thanks for posting.

[rvwnsd]

I'm far more upset that the government computers aren't more secure.

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I'm far more upset that the government computers aren't more secure.

 

I work as a computer programmer, and have been in the business since 1977. In my-not-so-humble-opinion,

I don't think it's possible for *any* computer to completely secure.*

 

(*well, of course, somebody will ask about the computer that's in a locked room which has no communications

link to the outside world, that does not allow any removeable media to be read into it, and may only

be accessed by means of a keyboard . . ., but really, that's not what we're talking about here)

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Some time ago, within the last ten years I believe, that a scientist at MIT had developed a technique capable of suspending light. One of the hypes was that it could make computers virtually unable to be hacked. I have not read or heard anything since in that regard, but I had hopes.

U P D A T E: With a little Google, I found that I have made a mistake. It wasn't MIT, it was Harvard, and it was 14 years ago. (whew!)

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/01.24/01-stoplight.html

[rvwnsd]

I work as a computer programmer, and have been in the business since 1977. In my-not-so-humble-opinion,

I don't think it's possible for *any* computer to completely secure.*...

 

I also work in the technology field, albeit on the business side rather than the technology side. You are correct in stating no computer can be completely secure. However, regulators put regulated industries through the ringer over security. Government agencies need to be held to the same standard. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the most recent security audit of OPB? That is, assuming one was conducted.

[+ quoththeraven]

I also work in the technology field, albeit on the business side rather than the technology side. You are correct in stating no computer can be completely secure. However, regulators put regulated industries through the ringer over security. Government agencies need to be held to the same standard. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the most recent security audit of OPB? That is, assuming one was conducted.

 

In a perfect world, you're right. That's not the world that exists. Government can reasonably be held to the same standard when it is funded responsibly, has great tech across the board, and isn't held hostage to the latest petty partisan squabble. Typically maintenance issues of any type are starved of funds, and government isn't run like a business. For one thing, the CEO and leadership of the board of directors keeps changing, and for another if it were run like a business, the agency that brings in the funds would be higher priority.

 

-Ex-employee of that agency