Taking Control of Escort Rates

[Guest houseboy]

RE: Reasonable rates, expectations...

 

>I have not had a single problem with anyone I've hired in that

>price range (over the internet) not being 'able to afford

>dental floss and deodorant', I too found that comment rather

>insulting. I have had a lot of fun times, though I've noticed

>after a couple repeats I start to look like an ATM, so I try

>out somebody else...

 

Alright just to clarify this before more people take offense - I mentioned deodorant and dental floss as examples of the things (i.e. basic necessities such as food and toiletries) that I would want my escort to be able to afford, which is why I would always advocate the higher rate. Having come into the escort business faced with the question "To eat or not to eat", I am quite familiar with the concept of cutting down on frivolous expense by skipping a haircut appointment, squeezing the extra inch of toothpaste out of an otherwise used-to-the-limits tube or (yes, I admit to that) consider barebacking because condoms are too expensive (thank God for the Howard Brown Health Center!).

 

In any case, I apologize for anyone I might have insulted with my comment. Insults are far from my intention when posting on the message board and those of you who have met me know that most of the potentially offensive things I say are *always* tongue in cheek. Or something else in cheek if I'm lucky. ;-)

 

Happy Valentine's weekend to everyone!

 

Sean Lespagnol

Chicago, Illinois

http://www.seanlespagnol.com

[Trixie]

RE: The Negotiators

 

>> .

>

>

>Negotiations are not a negative they can be a win - win.

>Someone here, don't recall who, made fun of Ethan for offering

>a special daytime rate (or something like that) maybe it was a

>cancellation rate special. In any case Ethan was being a great

>business person, not lowering his value.

>

>OK I will shut up for a bit now .

 

Why Utopia, you couldn't possibly be refering to me!

His standby rate is curious, and as you say, good business. Mainly tho' I just liked to tease the adorable little Hothead.

 

Trix

[eastbayguy]

RE: The Proverbial Ten Foot Pole

 

>You do not negotiate for services (i.e. plumbers, lawyers,

>maids, or dentist). You might shop around for a dentist or a

>plumber on the basis of who has better rate and I fully agree

>that the most expensive plumber, barber, lawyer or dentist is

>not necessarily the best in the business or the best for a

>particular client.

 

Nonsense. I negotiate all professional services rates I pay. Maybe not for something in the very low end of the spectrum, but everything else. Just had a leak in a wall requiring a repair. People quoted me prices all over the map. So, I did a little analysis of what I thought the repair would take, called up the plumber I wanted to do the job and said I have this project and it is worth X. He said he wouldn't do it for that. About ten minutes later, he called back and said he'd thought it over and that sounded like a very fair price.

 

Of course, had I been way wrong about the scope of the project after we peeled back the sheetrock, we'd have had to re-negotiate.

 

But, I got my plumbing repair done for $125. That did not include drying things out or the wall repair. Prices quoted me over the phone ranged from $60. to $5,850. The plumber was here less than an hour and needed about $15. worth of material. Several plumbers said any hidden leak was a minimum service fee of $1,500.

 

The plumber I got to do it for $125. originally quoted me $500. over the phone. He's done a lot of work for me. He does great work too.

 

Anyone who doesn't push hard to keep the prices they pay down is just burning their money.

 

--EBG

[Guest jeffOH]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

BTW, if you offer an escort less than their advertised rate AND they accept, you've NOT TAKEN control, but been GIVEN it by the decision of that particular escort. Perhaps it's just a matter of semantics, but I just didn't like the wording or the tone of the original post. There's a difference between "taking control" and being GIVEN it.

 

JEFF

[email protected]

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Selective Reality

 

I do not want to belabor this.

 

Woodlawn's cynacism non-withstanding, none of the escorts here are suggesting that clients should pay either more than they can afford or more than they want to pay.

 

What some of them have stated is either that they feel their rates are fair and reasonable, that they stand by and do not negotiate certain of their rates (primarily their one hour rate) and, most importantly, I believe all of us wish to be approached with respect and courtesy.

 

As for some of you, like eastbayguy, who have gotten some tradesman to take your job at a lower rate than they quoted you, how would you feel if you discovered someone else had been able to get a lower rate than you?

 

I believe it is fairer to my clients to have standardized rates, including potentially discounted weekday daytime rates, than I feel it is appropriate for an escort to give one client one rate for the same service at the same time frame simply because the client negotiated and the escort needed the money.

 

I make certain to never find myself in a position to have either a fire sale or a rent sale. Some escorts do. I always find myself in the position of attempting to give each client comparable and hopefully exceptional attention and care every time they see me.

[Guest jeffOH]

RE: Selective Reality

 

>As for some of you, like eastbayguy, who have gotten some

>tradesman to take your job at a lower rate than they quoted

>you, how would you feel if you discovered someone else had

>been able to get a lower rate than you?

 

Excellent point, Brother Franco! Reviews with inconsistent hourly rates would likely be frustrating to potential clients. Perhaps clients who do like to negotiate should keep their discount private and put the escort's advertised rate on a review.

 

JEFF

[email protected]

[woodlawn]

RE: Selective Reality

 

>I do not want to belabor this.

 

Then don't.

 

>Woodlawn's cynacism non-withstanding, none of the escorts here

>are suggesting that clients should pay either more than they

>can afford or more than they want to pay.

>

>What some of them have stated is either that they feel their

>rates are fair and reasonable, that they stand by and do not

>negotiate certain of their rates (primarily their one hour

>rate) and, most importantly, I believe all of us wish to be

>approached with respect and courtesy.

 

That is not quite true. When an escort posts on this board that "the me you get for $150 is not quite the same as the me you get for $200," or words to that effect, it's hard to come to any conclusion other than that the client is being asked to pay more to spend the same amount of time with the same person because paying less will put the escort in a less accommodating frame of mind. It is as if the escort is a commercial aircraft, and is telling us that we get to sit on the same plane whether we pay the first class fare or the coach fare, but that we'll have a more enjoyable trip if we pay the former.

 

As for the respect and courtesy issue, several posters have ably explained that there is nothing about bargaining for a better rate that should deprive a conversation of respect and courtesy -- there are just some people who don't know how to bargain without pissing the other party off. Respect and courtesy are merely a red herring in this conversation.

 

I'll add only that people bargain for the price of services all the time, including legal services, accounting services and financial services. Escorts are free to reject clients who want to bargain, but if they do they need to come up with some other reason than that there is something weird or outrageous about bargaining for the price of services, because that simply is not true.

[Guest Utopia]

>If you don't mind, I'd like to state my point of view.

>Everyone's making some really valid points, however, the

>thread is a little disheartening. People are writing about us

>as if we're cars to be haggled over

 

Bobby if you read my post just above I specifically state that I am NOT referring to negotiations like you are buying a car. Though if you charge more than $200. you're overpriced and I have the right to ask you if you will accept X amount. If you say no I respectfully move on.

 

As far as all the hardships in escorting, I don't care. There are hardships in every job, you selected your career so deal with them. I really don't care that the guy at McDonald's has a hard time due to his night hours anymore than I can about any issues an escort has. I pay for a service and expect the escort will complete the service, without dragging a bunch of baggage into it.

 

I have read your reviews and know of one person who has hired you and it all seems good ... though that doesn't mean I roll over and play dead when I hire you or anyone. I, like you, will look out for my best interest.

 

I do appreciate your input though. It's always nice to read how vehicles oops (just joking how people with other views feel.

[Guest Utopia]

>>By the way (to Jeff) if the escorts accepts I

>>have taken control of his rates.

>

>Sorry Utopia, but I will continue to disagree.

 

Jeff, We will have to just leave it at a friendly disagreement then.

[Guest Utopia]

RE: The Negotiators

 

>>> .

>>

>>

>>Negotiations are not a negative they can be a win - win.

>>Someone here, don't recall who, made fun of Ethan for

>offering

>>a special daytime rate (or something like that) maybe it was

>a

>>cancellation rate special. In any case Ethan was being a

>great

>>business person, not lowering his value.

>>

>>OK I will shut up for a bit now .

>

>Why Utopia, you couldn't possibly be refering to me!

>His standby rate is curious, and as you say, good business.

>Mainly tho' I just liked to tease the adorable little

>Hothead.

>

>Trix

LOL actually I don't even remember who it was Trix but if you want the credit you got it

 

"You realize that life goes fast

It's hard to make the good things last"

[Guest Utopia]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

>BTW, if you offer an escort less than their advertised rate

>AND they accept, you've NOT TAKEN control, but been GIVEN it

>by the decision of that particular escort. Perhaps it's just a

>matter of semantics, but I just didn't like the wording or the

>tone of the original post. There's a difference between

>"taking control" and being GIVEN it.

>

>JEFF

>[email protected]

>

>

 

Again we will just have to keep it as a friendly disagreement.

===

"You realize that life goes fast

It's hard to make the good things last"

[Guest Utopia]

RE: Selective Reality

 

>>As for some of you, like eastbayguy, who have gotten some

>>tradesman to take your job at a lower rate than they quoted

>>you, how would you feel if you discovered someone else had

>>been able to get a lower rate than you?

>

>Excellent point, Brother Franco! Reviews with inconsistent

>hourly rates would likely be frustrating to potential clients.

>Perhaps clients who do like to negotiate should keep their

>discount private and put the escort's advertised rate on a

>review.

>

>JEFF

>[email protected]

 

You see this is what it really is about. If escort Z charges me 180. instead of his regular rate of 250. and I write review that it is 180. now everyone knows that he probably can be hired for that amount.

===

"You realize that life goes fast

It's hard to make the good things last"

[Skyyguy]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

Well, I'm glad this was brought up. I agree, it is a good idea to negotiate, and I have found a good middle ground with most guys, that start high, but will settle for a little less. I also find that when negotiating, not to waste their time.

 

But as for the get what you pay for brought up by Devon, etc, I have found that is not true. I have met Devon, and he is a nice guy, nice body, but not as fun as some of the other non-pros. I felt more like a customer with him than any other escort I have met from this site or others. I found it interesting he brings up his body, his abs in his message. It is hot. But that's not the only reason people hire. They want a connection. I didn't have that with him. I'be had it with other 120-150 types, that have hot bodies as well. But don't seem to be so "aware" of themselves as Devon. I know he's recieved many positive reviews, and I didn't post a negative review, because I didn't feel I was unhappy, just unsatsified. I had read his diary for months before meeting him, and maybe my hopes were too high. But at the end of the hour, I swear I heard a chime, and the receipt printing.

 

I have paid others north of $200, like Aarron Westin, and he was well worth it, the experience was top notch, as well as his physical appeal.

 

And, I have met guys in chat rooms, who are short on rent, need to pay their cell bill, etc. They seem to be more fun, have decent bodies, and don't treat this as much as a busines as much as the pros.

 

 

 

I have learned as others have mentioned, that if they don't budge on the rates, move on.. I don't think we are looking to talk a $200 guy to $100, but I think we all like the idea of more than an hour for under 300..

 

 

SO, my question I'm trying to answer myself, is which has had better luck.. Known High Priced pros? Or lower cost guys who have other jobs.. So far, I'm leaning towards the latter...

 

Any other opinions on this?

[Skyyguy]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

Well, I'm glad this was brought up. I agree, it is a good idea to negotiate, and I have found a good middle ground with most guys, that start high, but will settle for a little less. I also find that when negotiating, not to waste their time.

 

But as for the get what you pay for brought up by Devon, etc, I have found that is not true. I have met Devon, and he is a nice guy, nice body, but not as fun as some of the other non-pros. I felt more like a customer with him than any other escort I have met from this site or others. I found it interesting he brings up his body, his abs in his message. It is hot. But that's not the only reason people hire. They want a connection. I didn't have that with him. I'be had it with other 120-150 types, that have hot bodies as well. But don't seem to be so "aware" of themselves as Devon. I know he's recieved many positive reviews, and I didn't post a negative review, because I didn't feel I was unhappy, just unsatsified. I had read his diary for months before meeting him, and maybe my hopes were too high. But at the end of the hour, I swear I heard a chime, and the receipt printing.

 

I have paid others north of $200, like Aarron Westin, and he was well worth it, the experience was top notch, as well as his physical appeal.

 

And, I have met guys in chat rooms, who are short on rent, need to pay their cell bill, etc. They seem to be more fun, have decent bodies, and don't treat this as much as a busines as much as the pros.

 

 

 

I have learned as others have mentioned, that if they don't budge on the rates, move on.. I don't think we are looking to talk a $200 guy to $100, but I think we all like the idea of more than an hour for under 300..

 

 

SO, my question I'm trying to answer myself, is which has had better luck.. Known High Priced pros? Or lower cost guys who have other jobs.. So far, I'm leaning towards the latter...

 

Any other opinions on this?

[BobbyThompson]

Getting anyone to agree in this thread is going to be an absolutely Herculean effort, but who's trying to anyway? It's all just about viewpoints.

 

>Bobby if you read my post just above I specifically state that

>I am NOT referring to negotiations like you are buying a car.

 

I actually wasn't responding to what you had said at all, it just fit with the metaphor. It was by no means a personal attack on anything you had said. I guess we just think alike :-) I wasn't commenting on the idea of bargaining in my last post, just the attitude that some people had about it.

 

>Though if you charge more than $200. you're overpriced and I

>have the right to ask you if you will accept X amount. If you

>say no I respectfully move on.

>

 

I think that's suggesting that all escorts are equal when they simply are not. To furthur humour the analogy, an Honda Civic is $12,000 and a Cadillac XLR is $75,000. They're both gonna get you to your destination and both have four wheels, but they're by no means the same.

 

>As far as all the hardships in escorting, I don't care. There

>are hardships in every job, you selected your career so deal

>with them.

 

I don't expect anyone to care but that doesn't mean they didn't need to be stated. I was explaining what I consider the reason for high fees. If we didn't earn what we do there'd be no reason for us to continue escorting and struggle with social mores. What I listed isn't native of many other careers, so if you can think of a way to eliminate those, I'd be happy to discuss lowering my rate with you.

 

>I have read your reviews and know of one person who has hired

>you and it all seems good ... though that doesn't mean I roll

>over and play dead when I hire you or anyone.

 

Thanks :-) No one likes a dead fish anyway. BTW- I see you're in sunny So-Cal. See you at the next Hooboy meeting, perhaps?

 

Lastly, let's all respect each others' opinions. If we think differently go ahead and express so. If you just want to say something negative and attack you're doing no good for anyone and you just make yourself look bad.

 

Cheers to all my friends,

Bobby

[+ SundayZip]

Oh goody! A chance to comment on a topic that combines two of my favorite things: the economics of a business transaction and escorts.

 

1) There’s a lot of discussion about Rate versus Quality (or Rate versus Performance). I certainly agree that there is no guarantee that Price will reflect Quality. But I do know Price usually reflects Demand. It is our job as consumers, to make sure that the factors that drive demand are also the factors that provide personal value to us. If the demand, and then price, for Joe Escort suddenly rises because he’s now a porn star, then, as a consumer, I have to decide if porn star status provides any extra value for me. If there’s a high demand for Joe Escort because he’s a great kisser and has an 11†dick, and that’s a differentiating factor for me, then I am willing to pay the higher price (although I totally respect Utopia’s decision to cap cost at $180 to $200). That’s the great thing about this website. We can shop and make purchase price decision based on facts, rather than trying to make “quality†inferences based on price.

 

2) Negotiating Rate. Although I will negotiate price when booking a hotel or purchasing a car, I do not attempt to negotiate price with an escort. When negotiating for a hotel room or car, I’m negotiating for a product that is an entirely separate entity from the seller. When negotiating with an escort, I’m not so sure that this is the case. I’m hoping to purchase is an engagement with a person who also happens to be the seller. I suspect that the quality of our time together will depend, in large part, on how that person feels about the engagement, so I don’t want to start off by making him feel short-changed, under valued or that I should only get what I pay for.

 

3) Publishing Rates. I completely respect an escort’s decision to Not publish rates. A lot of successful companies sell products and/or services without a published price list. If Company A sells a product strictly as a stand-alone, commodity (i.e. that’s their market strategy) then Company A better make the price easily available for buyers who want that product as a stand-alone item. If Company B provides that same product, but only as part of a bundled deal customized to each buyer’s requirements (let’s say the buyer wants a bundled deal that includes the product along with a couple other products, training, travel, service, on-going upgrades, and a chance to have dinner with Brad Pitt) then Company B can’t really post a specific price. The buyer needs to contact Company B to work out the deal. I’ve never met or talked to Benjamin Nicholas, so I don’t really have a clue, but it sounds like Ben would prefer to offer a bundled deal rather than commodity services.

 

Just my humble ramblings. . .

[Guest Tristan]

Bobby,

 

I have seen both your reviews and your pic and would seriously consider hiring you if you ever came my way. I understand your point that some escorts are worth more than others. Agreed. Can't argue with that. But there are limits, no matter how good you are.

 

Most occupations have upsides and downsides to them. Firemen and police risk their lives every day. Teachers put up with constant abuse and lack of appreciation for what they do. According to your arguments, we should either pay them 5x what they now earn, or they should all quit. Please, gimme a break. You can't justify charging for a service based solely on the disadvantages of your profession.

 

Think how much more escorts make per hour than many of the most highly educated and most highly trained professionals in our society, who spent a small fortune to get where they are. BTW: I'm not singling out escorts. I have even stronger sentiments about the obscene salaries that are paid to professional athletes. I would give a fireman more $$$ any day than the best professional athlete.

 

You may deserve more as an individual because of what you have to offer. Just please don't generalize this to escorts as a group. It's just a fact that in our society a person's income does not correlate with the negative aspects of his job. Actually, the reverse is frequently true. The people who have to put up with the most c**p often get paid much less.

 

If I have in any way personally offended you, it was not my intention. I merely felt the need to point out a distinction which is getting lost in all the chatter.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

- Tristan

[Guest alanm]

BG's "let's negotiate" policy implies that escort A = escort B =

escort C. In searching for escorts I always have a fairly strong

#1 choice, based on type, word of mouth, reviews, etc. To me a more

sensible policy, if we are talking about hiring an escort whom you may see again, is to pay his price the first time and the negotiate

a lower fee for subsequent calls after you have gotten to know each other.

 

I have hired some wonderful escorts over the years with whom I have worked out these kind of arrangements. I agree that many escorts might be willing to take less money than their going rates, especially if the rent is due. That's fine, especially if you are on the road and will likely never see the escort again or if you have no particular preference (which is more common for me when answering a newpaper ad and know nothing about the escort).

 

Clearly, I am in the minority on this issue.

[Guest Utopia]

>

>Clearly, I am in the minority on this issue.

>

You might be but your comments are just as important as those who might disagree. Thanks for taking the time to post on this thread. I have enjoyed reeading all of the remarks.

===

"You realize that life goes fast

It's hard to make the good things last"

[Guest LG320126]

Just my humble ramblings. . .

 

Do you think the next time you decided to ramble, you could leave out the ’'s?

 

Thanks

[+ SundayZip]

LG32----

 

I did not intend to insert the odd characters. I typed my comments in another word editor and then cut-paste then into the M4M page. For some unkown reason, all the apostrophes were turned into odd characters when HooBoys software coverted to HTML. It is a mystery to me.

[Guest lighthouse]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

>But as for the get what you pay for brought up by Devon, etc,

>I have found that is not true. I have met Devon, and he is a

>nice guy, nice body, but not as fun as some of the other

>non-pros. I felt more like a customer with him than any other

>escort I have met from this site or others.

 

I think this is a very perceptive comment. While I have no direct experience with Devon, I can say that in my experience there is often less spontaneity and connection with the "professional" escorts than with those who are less practiced at the art (as the song goes). The only way I can reconcile my own experience with the professional escorts and their reviews here and elsewhere is that they attract a particular kind of idiosyncratic client who ges off on the idea of fucking a star more than getting off. (Of course, along the continuum, I would expect, I think that a similar point could be made of the street hustlers too.)

 

So from the client point of view, the challenge is to identify the real stars out there at the best price/quality ratio, which in my view is rarely above $200 for a non-agency escort, and $300 for an agency escort. Just as most escorts become more jaded with more frequent encounters, I rather suspect that an escort who has obtained super-star status in reviews here probably has a hard time getting into the same mental space for each encounter as he did before he became a super-star. I found the rather long post by Devon above to be a very revealing insight into some of these issues.

[Skyyguy]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

You are correct. In fact this evening I received a note from Devon:

 

 

Hi Skyyguy,

 

I have no idea who you are as I'm not familiar with your message center screen name, but I wanted to tell you I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy your experience with me. I know very well that people hire escorts in part hoping to make a connection, and it's unfortunate that no escort, myself included, can "click" with every single client. I'd like to believe that if we'd caught each other on a different day, perhaps things would have gone differently, but since I don't know who you are I obviously can't say that with any certainty. I really wish I had known at the time that you felt this way as I would have happily given you at least a partial refund to make up for your disappointment. I'd much rather lose money "on the spot" than see my reputation damaged because someone left so unsatisfied that he felt the need to warn others about me. Again, I'm sorry to have disappointed you. Good luck with your future escort encounters.

 

Best,

 

Devon

 

Now, that said, Maybe I should have said something.. But, I'm shy to begin with, so bringing up the fact that the encounter was just OK, not anything special, how do you begin that discussion? Maybe I didn't give the proper impression in my initail message. I don't want this thread to turn into an issue with Devon. He seems like a nice guy. But an example, as you state, as a pro, who goes through the motions. I think his comments about a connection are similar to yours, how can you if you do this every day?

 

What I find interesting, is the guys that fall into this category all have the same response, they should have been told. Well, why is it the non pros don't have a problem reading the client? I mean most other guys will gladly give oral, without prompting. Devon didn't, and I didn't ask. After about 45 minutes of playing with his nipples, which he loves, and I could care less about, I felt it was time to cum, and for him to go. Sure, he's got a great body, and loves having it worshipped. But that doesn't mean he should be the only one having fun.

 

Switching subjects back to the issue at hand, I just chatted with a regular guy where I live, and asked for a reduced rate.. Well, that didn't go so well.. But after he signed off in a huff, he called back in 30 minutes.. Guess what, his cell phone bill is due, yadda yadda.. and maybe "this" time he could reduce his rate..

Well, his cell may not work soon.. hehe.

[giovoni]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

What?

 

I haven't chimed in on the negotiating issue but your post seems to say.. yeah Devon just goes through the motions and doesn't care about his job and to prove the point here's a letter the show's his class and willingness to makes things right if a client is unsatisfied.

 

Also how long have you done your job? Do you now suck at it every day since you can't possibly be good at something that you do each day - as your post claims.

 

Yes you should have said something about your experience about Devon to Devon. If you're too sniveling to do that then yes you should have written a review. It's unfair to him and to us that you bring it up here WAY after the fact and that he, as he says, has no idea who you are or what happened during the appointment. I'm surprised that the text, which was much more extensive and detailed then most reviews that are posted these days wasn't deleted along with a polite note from the monitors to write a review if you want to discuss your experiences with escorts. I hope this doesn't become a new stragtegy for people who want to cast aspersions at escorts here. 'I dont' want to write a review (or worse yet I dind't even see the guy) so I'm going to wait a little while and insert it seemingly appropriately in a conversation about something else, cast subtle aspersions about how he's unprofessional, not worth the money, not any fun, rude etc and then claim that I don't want to start any "issues" with him' ----- Nice

 

One more quick thing.. next time you say something.. try doing it while Lighthouse is drinking a glass of water.

 

Gio in Denver

 

"Never Argue with a Fool---Those around you may not notice the Difference"

[Boston Guy]

RE: Deciding What You're Willing to Pay!

 

Skyyguy:

 

I just read your latest post (the one this is in response to) three times. I'm struck by several thoughts:

 

1) You were fooling around with another guy for 45 minutes doing something that bored you. Why didn't you do anything about it, try something else, take some initiative, tell the other guy? For God's sake, it takes two to tango, you know? Try talking to the person you're having sex with: it will be more fun. Trust me.

 

2) Devon sent you a rather nice note. He expressed the same sort of remorse that I would expect any classy businessman to express when he finds out that one of his customers was disappointed in his product or service. He said he wished he had known you were disappointed at the time so he could have tried to do something about it. People aren't mind readers: if you're upset about something, you have to let people know. Otherwise, don't feel angry when they don't do anything about something they aren't aware of.

 

3) Upon receipt of a classy note from someone else -- a personal note -- you decide to share the note on a public bulletin board. I'm rather glad you did because it reinforces my belief that Devon is a classy guy. But sharing a personal note in this kind of way on a public forum is anything but a classy thing to do.

 

4) After asking an escort for a discount, you receive a negative response. But the escort thinks it over and calls back with an offer. Instead of accepting what you were asking for in the first place, you put down what he was saying as "yadda, yadda' and laugh at the prospect of the escort not being able to pay his cell phone bill.

 

All in all, it's not a very nice picture.

 

BG