The RENTMEN Interview

[Guest Starbuck]

I like The RENTMEN Interview. It's helped guide me toward some of my choices (and away from at least one guy). It's a great way to get more insight into an escort than you get from a few paragraphs of advertising copy--many of which sound virtually the same from ad to ad. My question is why more of the men on RENTMEN don't do the interview? It can't be that they don't want to answer all the questions since it seems that they have the option of answering only as many as they want. Is there a charge to do the interview, or is it an option available at no-additional-cost to the men who advertise on the site?

[adriano46]

The RENTMEN Interview is great; the filmed RENTMEN interviews are spectacular because there is the added plus (or minus??) of hearing the guy talk, see his expressions, see how he presents himself. On a few occasions I have been even more turned on to hiring a guy simply on the filmed interview; others - the interview drove me far away (one guy had a quirky jerking and twitching to his normal conversation; I knew this would drive me nuts after about 10 minutes face to face; another seemed heavily medicated in the interview... )

 

Sure wish Rentboy would be more interactive (and still cannot figure out why so few guys advertise on RENTMEN).

[Michael Wayne]

there was certainly no charge when I did my interview with them. it is unfortunate that a video interview isn't offered to everyone but I try in the "videos" section to talk so people can see and hear a bit about me. As I have said on here numerous times RENTMEN is the premier and superior site but ALAS their visibility is a real liability. Nowadays it seems that the apps and craigslist are beginning to dominate the biz. I ever hear that many guys are actually returning to the streets to hire........... @ http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop please enjoy my interview!

[Irish69]

Thank-You Starbuck For Starting This Thread. We currently approve up to 5 to 10 Interviews Per day & Yes The Interviews are free! We Too wish more escorts would take the time & answer interview questions so clients can get to know them better. Many escorts have told us that it's one of the best new features on Rentmen. To all of Daddy's members, feel free to recommend creating an interview on our website to any escort you hire. We have lots more planned in 2015, Stay tuned & enjoy the surprises we've got in store for your viewing pleasure.

 

 

Irish69

Rentmen Rick :-)

[Guest Starbuck]

Thank-You Starbuck For Starting This Thread. We currently approve up to 5 to 10 Interviews Per day & Yes The Interviews are free! We Too wish more escorts would take the time & answer interview questions so clients can get to know them better. Many escorts have told us that it's one of the best new features on Rentmen. To all of Daddy's members, feel free to recommend creating an interview on our website to any escort you hire. We have lots more planned in 2015, Stay tuned & enjoy the surprises we've got in store for your viewing pleasure.

 

Irish69

Rentmen Rick :-)

 

Rick, thanks for answering my question. As it happens, I DID ASK a RENTMEN advertiser with whom I recently spent the night why he hadn't done the Interview. I knew he was good friends with another guy on RENTMEN who had answered many (maybe all) of the questions and, as a result, gave his prospects a much better sense of who he is and what he likes. To me, the very nice, very handsome (and, in my opinion, underpriced) young man I was with was doing himself a disservice by skipping the Interview, but he seemed perplexed about why it would be advantageous to him. I explained my perspective, but didn't get the impression that I'd persuaded him of anything. I didn't want to sound like I was telling the guy how to run his business, but I've had a lot of marketing experience, have owned my own company, and, to me, one of the cardinal rules of business is that YOU DON'T MISS FREE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROMOTE YOURSELF. Good luck getting more guys involved. I appreciate your site.

[Rod Hagen]

In the early Hoo days there was a "Chat" section here containing the transcripts of one-night "Chat's" between an escort and posters from this site. I did it once, was fun.

[Mocha]

there was certainly no charge when I did my interview with them. it is unfortunate that a video interview isn't offered to everyone but I try in the "videos" section to talk so people can see and hear a bit about me. As I have said on here numerous times RENTMEN is the premier and superior site but ALAS their visibility is a real liability. Nowadays it seems that the apps and craigslist are beginning to dominate the biz. I ever hear that many guys are actually returning to the streets to hire........... @ http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop please enjoy my interview!

 

By Golly. Anyone returning to the streets must be on some ish. No offense, but these days it's not worth it, and many cities have 0 street scene especially in the Midwest, mountain west and far north. Who wants to risk frostbite?

 

As for rentmen, it's certainly coming up. Rick has done a good job. The thing I appreciate the most about Rentmen is that their rates haven't gone up. It makes me so mad to see sites raising their ad prices, when we as escorts have to deal so much with dudes wanting us to lower them. I'm not making more money from rentboy or men4rent than I did in 2010 (not that I'm not making more, but the increase comes from other sites, whereas at one point I could operate soley off rentboy or men4ren. NOT ANYMORE!), yet these clowns have the balls to jack the rates. No website should be charging more than $100 a month for an ad with no guarantees. And I've never paid more than $100 a month on a site. They always say, they can't guarantee anything. And truth of the matter is...there's so many sites out there, you ask a client where they seen you, they can't even recall anymore. Back in the day, you knew. Nowadays it's more like, "umm, I seen you on rentboy, Rentmen and men4rent, and I think adam4adam. I also seen you on backpage. I don't remember which one ". Okay....so why did I pay $100 to advertise on rentboy when I could have easily paid $60 on men4rent or $40 on Rentmen.

 

It's been said, 1 client will pay for a month to advertise on a site. I want to know what clients think of that. AND, what makes these sites so deserving of an entire hour I spend with a client? They didn't write my ad. Take my pictures. Pay my gym membership, my rent, the hotel, buy my bed, my sheets, my phone bill, my phone, my car, my gas, my clothes, my cologne....nor did they Suck, fuck, lick, kiss, etc. for the client. So I have a big problem with the idea that they get to help themselves to 1 of my sessions, which already involves costs to begin with.

 

 

 

I recently showed a very generous client, how much a Los angeles and New York rentboy ad costs $99-$199/month. He was flabbergasted. He felt it was way exorbitant. In the same token, sometimes I feel Rentmen clients aren't as serious as the rentboy ones. That's something that rentmen has to take into consideration. I'm not trying to diss rentboy or other sites, and obviously my reasoning won't change the millions and billions they are raking in. But, I feel the ad market is GREEDY, and tries to capitalize off the labor of our loins. Rentmen has eluded that image, for now.

[Guest Starbuck]

I recently showed a very generous client, how much a Los Angeles and New York Rentboy ad costs $99-$199/month. He was flabbergasted. He felt it was way exorbitant [sic].

 

Are you sure about that rate? Because just yesterday, on a thread about why Rentboy doesn't verify the pictures used on its site, AresEscortNYC--who actually DOES advertise on Rentboy in the NYC market--said this, "There are 400+ ads in the NYC market alone on that site [Rentboy]; the cost for a 1-month ad in this market is $60."

 

As a person who was involved in marketing/sales/advertising for a good part of his professional life, it is hard--no, impossible--for me to see $60 as an "exhorbitant" fee for a month-long advertisement, especially if I consider that that's less than one-third the cost of ONE HOUR of an escort's time if he's charging $200/hour and less than one-fourth the cost of ONE HOUR of an escort's time if he's charging $250/hour.

 

Now, of course, when an advertiser in any field does not feel he is getting his money's worth out of his advertising, he needs to reconsider how to better allocate those dollars, whether to use other advertising venues or use that money in some other manner. That's not only his choice; it's a responsibility he has to himself and to his business. Anyone who continues to use advertising/marketing outlets that he claims are overpriced or ineffective is really just bitching about the cost of doing business.

 

The thing I appreciate the most about Rentmen is that their rates haven't gone up. It makes me so mad to see sites raising their ad prices, when we as escorts have to deal so much with dudes wanting us to lower them. I'm not making more money from Rentboy or men4rent than I did in 2010 (not that I'm not making more, but the increase comes from other sites, whereas at one point I could operate soley off Rentboy or men4ren. NOT ANYMORE!), yet these clowns have the balls to jack the rates. No website should be charging more than $100 a month for an ad with no guarantees.

 

My-oh-my ... where to begin? ... I'll just focus on the fact that it is complete nonsense to float the notion that any advertising venue in any field can GUARANTEE you any specific response or rate of return on your advertising. What you are buying is EXPOSURE. Period. In the fading-away-fast days of print advertising, what an advertiser knew was how many issues of a publication were being distributed and a whole bunch of demographic details to help him decide if that publication was likely to get in front of the people he wanted to read his ad for a price that seemed logical to him. And still there were uncertainties; for instance, how many people who received the magazine never opened it, or scanned it quickly, or didn't pause to read the ads? Things are even more uncertain with internet advertising. I suppose you know how many hits-per-month the sites you use are getting, and how many hits your particular ad is getting, and maybe how the number of hits your ad gets compares to the most and least popular ads on the sites. You certainly have every right to--and should--ask questions of your media reps to get the best possible perspective on what you are getting out of your ad buy. But what you can't reasonably expect is a guarantee.

 

...What makes these sites so deserving of an entire hour I spend with a client? They didn't write my ad. Take my pictures. Pay my gym membership, my rent, the hotel, buy my bed, my sheets, my phone bill, my phone, my car, my gas, my clothes, my cologne....nor did they Suck, fuck, lick, kiss, etc. for the client. So I have a big problem with the idea that they get to help themselves to 1 of my sessions, which already involves costs to begin with.

 

You're right--the sites you're complaining about did not write your ad copy or take your pictures. And you know what that means? That means YOU own a share of the responsibility for how well your advertising does. I hope your pictures are terrific. I hope your ad copy is well-written, compelling, maybe even a little unique (something that sets you apart from other guys).

 

You undermine your argument by throwing in references to your gym membership, phone, car, clothes, etc. I don't need to explain why, do I?

 

You demean yourself and your chosen line of work by complaining that the ad sites you use did not have to "suck, fuck, lick, kiss, etc. for the client." I know I don't need to explain that either.

 

In every line of business, there are THE COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS. To approach your work in a professional manner, you need to evaluate costs vs. income and maintain these in proper ratio to one another.

[Strafe13]

Are you sure about that rate? Because just yesterday, on a thread about why Rentboy doesn't verify the pictures used on its site, AresEscortNYC--who actually DOES advertise on Rentboy in the NYC market--said this, "There are 400+ ads in the NYC market alone on that site [Rentboy]; the cost for a 1-month ad in this market is $60."

 

As a person who was involved in marketing/sales/advertising for a good part of his professional life, it is hard--no, impossible--for me to see $60 as an "exhorbitant" fee for a month-long advertisement, especially if I consider that that's less than one-third the cost of ONE HOUR of an escort's time if he's charging $200/hour and less than one-fourth the cost of ONE HOUR of an escort's time if he's charging $250/hour.

 

Now, of course, when an advertiser in any field does not feel he is getting his money's worth out of his advertising, he needs to reconsider how to better allocate those dollars, whether to use other advertising venues or use that money in some other manner. That's not only his choice; it's a responsibility he has to himself and to his business. Anyone who continues to use advertising/marketing outlets that he claims are overpriced or ineffective is really just bitching about the cost of doing business.

 

 

 

My-oh-my ... where to begin? ... I'll just focus on the fact that it is complete nonsense to float the notion that any advertising venue in any field can GUARANTEE you any specific response or rate of return on your advertising. What you are buying is EXPOSURE. Period. In the fading-away-fast days of print advertising, what an advertiser knew was how many issues of a publication were being distributed and a whole bunch of demographic details to help him decide if that publication was likely to get in front of the people he wanted to read his ad for a price that seemed logical to him. And still there were uncertainties; for instance, how many people who received the magazine never opened it, or scanned it quickly, or didn't pause to read the ads? Things are even more uncertain with internet advertising. I suppose you know how many hits-per-month the sites you use are getting, and how many hits your particular ad is getting, and maybe how the number of hits your ad gets compares to the most and least popular ads on the sites. You certainly have every right to--and should--ask questions of your media reps to get the best possible perspective on what you are getting out of your ad buy. But what you can't reasonably expect is a guarantee.

 

 

 

You're right--the sites you're complaining about did not write your ad copy or take your pictures. And you know what that means? That means YOU own a share of the responsibility for how well your advertising does. I hope your pictures are terrific. I hope your ad copy is well-written, compelling, maybe even a little unique (something that sets you apart from other guys).

 

You undermine your argument by throwing in references to your gym membership, phone, car, clothes, etc. I don't need to explain why, do I?

 

You demean yourself and your chosen line of work by complaining that the ad sites you use did not have to "suck, fuck, lick, kiss, etc. for the client." I know I don't need to explain that either.

 

In every line of business, there are THE COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS. To approach your work in a professional manner, you need to evaluate costs vs. income and maintain these in proper ratio to one another.

 

Uhm, wow. Not that I don't appreciate your perspective, because you certainly informed me on some particulars about the advertising business. But was this kind of point-by-point takedown, of what was obviously a rant or venting of the frustrations of the biz, really necessary? Seems unduly harsh to me, with the potential of derailing the thread. Again, very informative, and I don't even really disagree with the overall substance, but it just seemed like overkill.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

It's been said, 1 client will pay for a month to advertise on a site. I want to know what clients think of that. AND, what makes these sites so deserving of an entire hour I spend with a client?

 

Because M4RN, Rentmen and Rentboy aren't websites. They are essentially machines that magically turn your money into more money than you started with. Without them, you will not make any money, so I'm not sure what the problem is.