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A friend on Twitter said "Whoopi didn’t really change her stance on Cosby - she begged him to speak and defend himself. Nuanced her position." (No linkage this time. Too many highly personal tweets about a medical situation.)

 

I don't see what's controversial about what Obama said. It's basic law, just like penetrating (even digitally) someone who's unconscious is not consensual and constitutes rape, contrary to what the defendants in Steubenville thought. Technically, he was talking hypothetically.

 

Why do we think Clinton wouldn't have said the same thing if she were president? It doesn't make as much sense for her to comment as a candidate, though.

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Bill Cosby admitted sexual pursuit of women using power, pills and money

Deposition reveals in comedian’s own words how he coaxed women into sex, sometimes giving out sedating drugs, and then secretly paid them off

The Guardian

 

Bill Cosby has admitted paying women off after persuading them into sex, having pursued them by using his powerful position in the entertainment industry and affecting a concern for their careers, as well as offering them sedating drugs.

 

The New York Timesreported the detailed revelationsafter obtaining a copy of a transcript from a deposition Cosby gave a decade ago. Cosby went to great lengths to hide his behaviour and the payments he made from his wife.

 

The 78-year-old comedian was testifying under oath in a lawsuit by a former Temple University employee, Andrea Constand, who says he molested her.

 

He says he offered to pay for Constand’s education and had paid other women after they had sex with him.

 

He also admits he funnelled money to some of the women through his agent so his wife wouldn’t find out.

 

During the questioning, he said he was a good reader of women and called Constand a liar.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/19/bill-cosby-admitted-sexual-pursuit-of-women-using-power-pills-and-money

honcho Grand Master

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While not intending to defend Mr. Cosby in any way and only in the interest of legal education for the

rest of us here, I had the impression that it was not unusual in the case of court settlements to have

a requirement that the terms not be publically disclosed (and if it did, that might void the settlement)?

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That cover is POWERFUL ... the NUMBER of victims, the DEGREE of criminality ... at least there is no statue of limitations on the SHAME that can be tarred-and-feathered to a man who held himself up to children, to other fathers, to families, to members of his race--to the whole damn world--as an exemplar of moral virtue.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/24/bill-cosby-trial-sexual-assault-charges-pennsylvania-temple

 

Bill Cosby to stand trial on sexual assault charges in Pennsylvania

Comedian faces up to 10 years in prison for charges stemming from accusation that he drugged and sexually assaulted a Temple University employee in 2004

 

 

Bill Cosby to stand trial on sexual assault charges

Molly Redden in Norristown, Pennsylvania

 

Bill Cosby, the TV star and the subject of dozens of accusations from women who say he sexually assaulted them, must face trial over an accusation that he intoxicated and sexually assaulted a Temple University employee more than 12 years ago in his Pennsylvania home.

The ruling in Pennsylvania district court sets in motion one of the biggest trials of the decade, in which the actor and comedian faces up to 10 years in prison.

The case involves the only criminal proceedings against Cosby, 78, to emerge from a tidal wave of similar accusations. Andrea Constand, who met Cosby when she was an employee of Temple University in Philadelphia and considered him a mentor, claims that Cosby drugged and violated her at his Pennsylvania home in January 2004. Constand was not present for Tuesday’s hearing.

On Tuesday, two detectives who interviewed Constand in 2005 read detailed portions of her written statement to police. Constand claimed in the interview that Cosby invited her to his home for a conversation about her future. He urged her to drink wine, over her objections, and take pills that immobilized her, made it impossible for her to speak, and made her legs feel “like jelly”. Cosby laid her out on the couch, she claims, where he put his hand in her pants and touched her genitals, and fondled her breasts.

“I told him, ‘I can’t even talk, Mr Cosby.’ I started to panic,” Constand told police in 2005.

John Norris, the chief of police, read from the transcript of an interview he conducted with Cosby and Cosby’s attorney on 25 January 2005 in New York City. In the interview, Cosby acknowledged having several sexual encounters with Constand but claimed all of them were consensual. He claims that the drug he gave her was Benadryl, allergy medication.

A trial in Pennsylvania could be the only one Cosby faces despite accusations that he sexually assaulted dozens of women, often with the aid of drugs. In most of those cases, the women have declined to make statements to the police or the criminal and civil statute of limitations has expired.

Indeed, Montgomery County prosecutors charged Cosby just days before being barred by a 12-year time limit.

Cosby is charged with three second-degree felony charges of aggravated indecent assault, which each carry up to 10 years in prison. Authorities issued an arrest warrant for Cosby at the end of December, and Cosby posted 10% of a $1m bail. He maintains that any sexual contact with his accusers – including encounters he acknowledges having with Constand – was consensual.

Tuesday’s ruling was at a hearing to determine if there was enough evidence for prosecutors to take Cosby to trial. The evidentiary standards for such a hearing are lower than they are in a trial. Earlier the judge ruled that Constand, who now lives in Toronto, did not need to testify at the hearing.

The hearing opened with Brian McMonagle, an attorney for Cosby, arguing that it was unconscionable for the judge to send Cosby to trial based not on Constand’s testimony, but on transcripts of how she recalled the incident one year after it happened.

Katharine Hart, a detective with Montgomery County, then read from a transcript she had helped type of Constand’s 2005 formal interview with police.

In the transcript, Constand recalled that she “sipped” a drink and describes Cosby pushing pills on her. “These will make you feel good … take the edge off,” Constand claimed he told her. She recalled replying: “I trust you.”

The pills soon made her vision “blurry” and “fuzzy”. “I was unable to move my body,” Constand said, according to the transcript. “I was pretty much frozen.” Cosby touched her under her clothes and put her hand on his erect, exposed penis, Constand claimed.

McMonagle, his voice frequently rising to an incredulous yell, focused on places in Constand’s transcript, which doubled as her statement to police, where she had crossed out significant portions. Regarding an encounter before the alleged assault, in which Constand met Cosby in his hotel room at a casino, she crossed out a line that indicated the two laid down on his bed: “We were touching each other but nothing sexual.”

McMonagle also made much of what came before and after the night in question, highlighting Cosby’s admission, in his interview with police, that he had carried on a casual affair with Constand before the incident. On the night he allegedly assaulted her, she stayed to eat. “He gave her a blueberry muffin!” McMonagle yelled.

Cosby said their encounter that night was consensual. The two kissed and touched on other occasions, Cosby told police, and engaged in light petting. On one occasion when she wanted to stop, Cosby recalled to police, he stopped.

A sober-by-comparison Steele suggested that Constand’s refusal to engage in sexual conduct on that occasion may have motivated Cosby to introduce drugs into the mix. “It didn’t work out so well for him the time before,” Steele said.

After the ruling, Cosby walked out of court on the arm of an aide. He did not appear as frail as he had for his previous court dates, when he used a cane.

Constand was one of the first women to make a formal accusation against Cosby. She approached detectives with her allegations in January 2005, one year after she claims the violation took place.

But the case that is unfolding in district court almost never materialized. In February 2005, Bruce Castor, the Montgomery County district attorney at the time, announced that he was declining to prosecute. Kevin Steele, the district attorney who is trying the case, won election over Castor last November by savaging Castor’s handling of the case.

Castor has given several reasons for dropping the case. After he declined to prosecute, Constand brought a civil suit against Cosby. The case ended in an undisclosed settlement in 2006. In October 2014, Castor told the Associated Press that compared with her description of the assault to police, Constand’s civil lawsuit contained enhancements and discrepancies. The differences, he said, were “troublesome for the good guys”.

“If the allegations in the civil complaint were contained with that detail in her statement to the police, we might have been able to make a case out of it,” Castor said.

Constand sued Castor for defamation over his remarks. In an interview with the Washington Post one month later, Castor said he found Constand credible, but that a lack of physical evidence and the delay in reporting would hamper the prosecution.

In July 2015, the AP published a deposition of Cosby, taken during Constand’s civil suit, admitting that he obtained quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to young women he wished to sleep with. Castor’s successor in the district attorney’s office quietly reopened a criminal inquiry.

 

 

 

Finally some justice.

 

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marylander1940 Grand Master

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/24/bill-cosby-trial-sexual-assault-charges-pennsylvania-temple

 

Bill Cosby to stand trial on sexual assault charges in Pennsylvania

Comedian faces up to 10 years in prison for charges stemming from accusation that he drugged and sexually assaulted a Temple University employee in 2004

 

 

Bill Cosby to stand trial on sexual assault charges

Molly Redden in Norristown, Pennsylvania

 

 

Bill Cosby, the TV star and the subject of dozens of accusations from women who say he sexually assaulted them, must face trial over an accusation that he intoxicated and sexually assaulted a Temple University employee more than 12 years ago in his Pennsylvania home.

 

 

The ruling in Pennsylvania district court sets in motion one of the biggest trials of the decade, in which the actor and comedian faces up to 10 years in prison.

 

The case involves the only criminal proceedings against Cosby, 78, to emerge from a tidal wave of similar accusations. Andrea Constand, who met Cosby when she was an employee of Temple University in Philadelphia and considered him a mentor, claims that Cosby drugged and violated her at his Pennsylvania home in January 2004. Constand was not present for Tuesday’s hearing.

 

On Tuesday, two detectives who interviewed Constand in 2005 read detailed portions of her written statement to police. Constand claimed in the interview that Cosby invited her to his home for a conversation about her future. He urged her to drink wine, over her objections, and take pills that immobilized her, made it impossible for her to speak, and made her legs feel “like jelly”. Cosby laid her out on the couch, she claims, where he put his hand in her pants and touched her genitals, and fondled her breasts.

 

“I told him, ‘I can’t even talk, Mr Cosby.’ I started to panic,” Constand told police in 2005.

 

 

John Norris, the chief of police, read from the transcript of an interview he conducted with Cosby and Cosby’s attorney on 25 January 2005 in New York City. In the interview, Cosby acknowledged having several sexual encounters with Constand but claimed all of them were consensual. He claims that the drug he gave her was Benadryl, allergy medication.

 

A trial in Pennsylvania could be the only one Cosby faces despite accusations that he sexually assaulted dozens of women, often with the aid of drugs. In most of those cases, the women have declined to make statements to the police or the criminal and civil statute of limitations has expired.

 

Indeed, Montgomery County prosecutors charged Cosby just days before being barred by a 12-year time limit.

 

Cosby is charged with three second-degree felony charges of aggravated indecent assault, which each carry up to 10 years in prison. Authorities issued an arrest warrant for Cosby at the end of December, and Cosby posted 10% of a $1m bail. He maintains that any sexual contact with his accusers – including encounters he acknowledges having with Constand – was consensual.

 

Tuesday’s ruling was at a hearing to determine if there was enough evidence for prosecutors to take Cosby to trial. The evidentiary standards for such a hearing are lower than they are in a trial. Earlier the judge ruled that Constand, who now lives in Toronto, did not need to testify at the hearing.

 

The hearing opened with Brian McMonagle, an attorney for Cosby, arguing that it was unconscionable for the judge to send Cosby to trial based not on Constand’s testimony, but on transcripts of how she recalled the incident one year after it happened.

 

Katharine Hart, a detective with Montgomery County, then read from a transcript she had helped type of Constand’s 2005 formal interview with police.

 

In the transcript, Constand recalled that she “sipped” a drink and describes Cosby pushing pills on her. “These will make you feel good … take the edge off,” Constand claimed he told her. She recalled replying: “I trust you.”

 

The pills soon made her vision “blurry” and “fuzzy”. “I was unable to move my body,” Constand said, according to the transcript. “I was pretty much frozen.” Cosby touched her under her clothes and put her hand on his erect, exposed penis, Constand claimed.

 

McMonagle, his voice frequently rising to an incredulous yell, focused on places in Constand’s transcript, which doubled as her statement to police, where she had crossed out significant portions. Regarding an encounter before the alleged assault, in which Constand met Cosby in his hotel room at a casino, she crossed out a line that indicated the two laid down on his bed: “We were touching each other but nothing sexual.”

 

McMonagle also made much of what came before and after the night in question, highlighting Cosby’s admission, in his interview with police, that he had carried on a casual affair with Constand before the incident. On the night he allegedly assaulted her, she stayed to eat. “He gave her a blueberry muffin!” McMonagle yelled.

 

Cosby said their encounter that night was consensual. The two kissed and touched on other occasions, Cosby told police, and engaged in light petting. On one occasion when she wanted to stop, Cosby recalled to police, he stopped.

 

A sober-by-comparison Steele suggested that Constand’s refusal to engage in sexual conduct on that occasion may have motivated Cosby to introduce drugs into the mix. “It didn’t work out so well for him the time before,” Steele said.

 

After the ruling, Cosby walked out of court on the arm of an aide. He did not appear as frail as he had for his previous court dates, when he used a cane.

 

Constand was one of the first women to make a formal accusation against Cosby. She approached detectives with her allegations in January 2005, one year after she claims the violation took place.

 

But the case that is unfolding in district court almost never materialized. In February 2005, Bruce Castor, the Montgomery County district attorney at the time, announced that he was declining to prosecute. Kevin Steele, the district attorney who is trying the case, won election over Castor last November by savaging Castor’s handling of the case.

 

Castor has given several reasons for dropping the case. After he declined to prosecute, Constand brought a civil suit against Cosby. The case ended in an undisclosed settlement in 2006. In October 2014, Castor told the Associated Press that compared with her description of the assault to police, Constand’s civil lawsuit contained enhancements and discrepancies. The differences, he said, were “troublesome for the good guys”.

 

“If the allegations in the civil complaint were contained with that detail in her statement to the police, we might have been able to make a case out of it,” Castor said.

 

Constand sued Castor for defamation over his remarks. In an interview with the Washington Post one month later, Castor said he found Constand credible, but that a lack of physical evidence and the delay in reporting would hamper the prosecution.

 

In July 2015, the AP published a deposition of Cosby, taken during Constand’s civil suit, admitting that he obtained quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to young women he wished to sleep with. Castor’s successor in the district attorney’s office quietly reopened a criminal inquiry.

 

 

 

Finally some justice.

 

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Come on, he couldn't do a casting couch?

 

What a hypocrite, psycho, sociopath or all?

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He urged her to drink wine, over her objections, and take pills that immobilized her, made it impossible for her to speak, and made her legs feel “like jelly”.

These allegations may be true, but I'm always uncomfortable about accusations made so many years after the fact, especially when they're accompanied by big $$$ civil suits, which really taints testimony in criminal cases. How the hell do you make people take pills and wine when they don't want to? Put a gun to the person's head? What kind of an idiot would take pills given to her by a stranger when she didn't know what the pills were (and the person giving it to her wasn't even a doctor)?? What kind of facts could there be this many years out which would prove beyond reasonable doubt that any sexual activity wasn't consensual? If she had gone to the police right away, provided a urine drug screen, and forensic analysis, there would be a much stronger case.

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He urged her to drink wine, over her objections, and take pills that immobilized her, made it impossible for her to speak, and made her legs feel “like jelly”.

 

These allegations may be true, but I'm always uncomfortable about accusations made so many years after the fact, especially when they're accompanied by big $$$ civil suits, which really taints testimony in criminal cases. How the hell do you make people take pills and wine when they don't want to? Put a gun to the person's head? What kind of an idiot would take pills given to her by a stranger when she didn't know what the pills were (and the person giving it to her wasn't even a doctor)?? What kind of facts could there be this many years out which would prove beyond reasonable doubt that any sexual activity wasn't consensual? If she had gone to the police right away, provided a urine drug screen, and forensic analysis, there would be a much stronger case.

The judge at the hearing found "probable cause." That's not nothin'. In fact, it is plenty for a trial.

 

As for those pills: "According to the deposition, Constand said she went to Cosby’s home to discuss her next career move. He offered her pills for her reported stress. She thought she was taking an herbal medication." It's disappointing when so many are so quick to question the motives of a woman when she reports sexual assault. The judge ruled on evidence, not prejudice, that a trial is warranted.

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