Do Pride Parades Help Or Hurt The Cause?

[+ Gar1eth]

I think that's a specious argument. Obviously there are effeminate straight guys just as there are gay men who are very 'butch', but while there hasn't been a study that I know of, my admittedly far from scientifically accurate experience is that that there is a higher percentage of more effeminate behavior among gays and and higher percentage of more butch acting men among straight people in Western Culture at the very least.

 

Gman

 

Why is it a specious argument? You've admitted above that there are straight men who are effeminate. Therefore, effeminacy is NOT necessarily a gay trait. So let's stop using it as one. Argument over.

 

When dealing with humans there is hardly ever a sine qua non- or to put it into medical term a single pathognomonic characteristic or behavior - that can be attributed singly to one person, clan or group. I might be able to find a native born red-headed male from Southern Europe. But that doesn't mean that I'm not going to find a higher percentage of them in Ireland and Scotland compared to Siciliy.

 

Gman

[matureguy69]

To right fella what you say ,,, the media is only interested in extremes, so they can put people into boxes , never showing gay people who work and live fulfilling lives plus adding something to humanity , love,life, art, and taxes hahahaha . I am glad more famous people as slowly coming out to show sociality we are here and proud.

[JoeyBryant]

Someone in the recent Gay Male Kissing In Public Thread mentioned that overly passionate kissing in public in his opinion would only hurt us by uniting people with prejudice against us.

 

What about the whole Micheal Sam and his boyfriend kissing after the draft scenario being re-played 150 BILLION times on ESPN mother's day weekend?

 

At 1st I felt a certain way about it, but I think it actually helped many people feel comfortable with themselves, and the fact that straight, masculine men of color can be gay too.

[Nvr2Thick]

I don't have the word 'gay' stamped on my forehead. And I am not overtly effeminate. There are only a limited number of people I've told. There may be others who supect- maybe even suspect strongly. But as I've never really given them any direct evidence, there is no way they can know for sure.

 

Gman

 

The older you get, the more "suspect strongly" becomes "know with certainty but without confirmation". This is exactly what I mean by hanging on to the last shreds of ambiguity.

[Newly]

I wish I had some idea of what you are talking about but I don't. What is "acting like whites wanted them to?" and when is it you think this occurred? It's been my experience and a professor and as someone who has worked in the entertainment field that when black people started "acting like whites" then get a lot of crap from other black people who don't like that. It's something I face every day as a teacher. I try to explain to young black (men in particular) students about language and how saying "aks" and "mines" and "he's doing the bs" tags you and not in a positive way.

 

I don't really think you can equate "radicalizing" and progress. Sometimes things just happen at the same time. Dr. King was not a "radical" in any real sense of the word. Malcolm X was. And it was Dr. King who moved things forward, not the radicals.

 

And really anyone who thinks there is some sort of monolithic 1% that controls the worlds and all the rest of that BS, is just really living in a fantasy world and is being far too simplistic. And that's about all I want to say about that because we don't want to get too political.

 

You're either kidding or not remembering history. Dr. King was enough of a radical in his time to have Hoover and half the South calling him a Communist, bugging his phone and treating him as a terrorist. Maybe you should hit the books again and see how social movements progress. Unless, of course, you think that the best way to gain equality is to be subservient to the majority - maybe if we treat our masters really, really nicely they'll all be nice to us.

[MrMiniver]

You're either kidding or not remembering history. Dr. King was enough of a radical in his time to have Hoover and half the South calling him a Communist, bugging his phone and treating him as a terrorist. Maybe you should hit the books again and see how social movements progress. Unless, of course, you think that the best way to gain equality is to be subservient to the majority - maybe if we treat our masters really, really nicely they'll all be nice to us.

 

*plonk

[instudiocity]

What about the whole Micheal Sam and his boyfriend kissing after the draft scenario being re-played 150 BILLION times on ESPN mother's day weekend?

One is only offended by what he permits as offensive.

 

At 1st I felt a certain way about it, but I think it actually helped many people feel comfortable with themselves, and the fact that straight, masculine men of color can be gay too.

I think straight, masculine men of color can be gay, but it may take a lotta work... volunteers?

[TruHart1]

Straight Men CAN be Gay!!!

 

 

...it actually helped many people feel comfortable with themselves, and the fact that straight, masculine men of color can be gay too.

 

I think straight, masculine men of color can be gay, but it may take a lotta work... volunteers?

 

LOL! That made my Friday

 

TruHart1

[+ Funguy]

But Gay Men CAN Be Straight, if you are a Republican, esp. in Texas