What you text remains on your company's record forever! Isn't a phone call better?

[marylander1940]

What you text remains on your company's record forever! Isn't a phone call better?

I just talked with a local escort who was annoyed the whole day with 3 potential clients texting him with explicit sexual requests, one of them with family around him, the other 2 from business meetings.

Having watched all the Snowden scandal and knowing that phone records last a lifetime and are easier to retrieve with a subpoena if you're a commoner and without one of you're the government I wonder why so many guys refuse to talk to an escort over the phone and insist on making plans by text only?

Is it self destructive?

I need to hear the guy's voice over the phone to see if we're a match or not. Am I alone?

[bigvalboy]

I will text or email an esort initially, but as you mention, I want to hear a voice at some point, even if I am arranging a massage. I might text to contact him, but then I want to hear a voice. In the first text or email, I will give the escort additional contact information, let him know my preference, and leave it at that. Sending inappropriate texts to an escort is never OK....I keep texts short, to the point and talk only in general terms, certainly nothing explicite. Now that being said, in my personal life, I do find that I text far more than I call for many reasons, so for me texting has become more of a habit.

 

If I were that escort, I would have told the potential clients immediately that their 'explicit sexual requests' were inappropriate.

[+ deej]

What you text remains on your company's record forever! Isn't a phone call better?

 

Either way, common sense dictates it would be better NOT to use the company phone.

[desertguy1954]

I agree with deej, when setting up time with an escort, do not use the company phone, those are not private lines and if the company wants, they can check those also.

[rvwnsd]

What you text remains on your company's record forever!..

 

I took this to mean "your cell phone provider's" record, probably because I would never use a company phone or computer for any personal business. Speaking for myself, my employer expressly prohibits the use of company-provided equipment for personal use, except in emergencies, and calls out explicit material as forbidden. So, did you mean cell phone company or employer? Or both?

 

...Isn't a phone call better?...

 

For you, perhaps, but for me, not always. I am typically crunched for time, so email works better than phone calls because I can read and respond when I am able to do so. Typically, I use text to confirm an appointment or indicate I am on my way. Most guys I hire use text for the same purpose. There are two guys I've come to know over the last few years and we will communicate via text.

 

...I just talked with a local escort who was annoyed the whole day with 3 potential clients texting him with explicit sexual requests, one of them with family around him, the other 2 from business meetings...

 

Many escorts state "no texts" in their ads. Sounds like he, too, needs to state that.

 

...Having watched all the Snowden scandal and knowing that phone records last a lifetime and are easier to retrieve with a subpoena if you're a commoner and without one of you're the government...

 

If you are worried about phone records being subpoenaed, talking with escorts over the phone would probably not allay those fears.

 

...I wonder why so many guys refuse to talk to an escort over the phone and insist on making plans by text only?...

 

It seems rather a large leap to equate texting an escort with "refusing to talk over the phone" and "insist[ing] on making plans by text only."

 

...Is it self destructive?...

 

I don't think so.

 

...I need to hear the guy's voice over the phone to see if we're a match or not. Am I alone?

 

If that works for you, that's great! However, it is your preference. It is not everyone's preference. Seems rather self-destructive to become bothered by other peoples' preferences, particularly when they have not effect on you.

[Bosguy]

My policy has always been to either text or email (depending on the escort's preference) to see if a meeting is possible at a certain time and place. Since I never do last minute hires, this has always worked. The next correspondence via the above methods would be to set up a time that we can discuss the next step on the phone. I have always used my personal computer and phone for the arrangement and never put anything in writing that could possibly cause either of us any problems.

This method has been totally perfect for me and has been appreciated and preferred by all the guys I have hired.

 

Boston Bill

[marylander1940]

I took this to mean "your cell phone provider's" record, probably because I would never use a company phone or computer for any personal business. Speaking for myself, my employer expressly prohibits the use of company-provided equipment for personal use, except in emergencies, and calls out explicit material as forbidden. So, did you mean cell phone company or employer? Or both?

 

I meant cellphone, any kind of cellphone or iphone. Whether is a government's blackberry or your own prepaid Virgin Mobile. You admit you use your own cellphone (not your company's provider number) to text "I'm on my way", right? I do the same, I just don't talk about what we are going to do by text. I don't ask "Will you bottom for me?" by text.

 

 

For you, perhaps, but for me, not always. I am typically crunched for time, so email works better than phone calls because I can read and respond when I am able to do so. Typically, I use text to confirm an appointment or indicate I am on my way. Most guys I hire use text for the same purpose. There are two guys I've come to know over the last few years and we will communicate via text.

 

I never said anything about NOT using email at all, my first contact is by email, but unlike you... I do need to hear the guy's voice for a couple of minutes to make sure we're a match. It's just a preference. The escort might be busier than the 2 of us but scheduling a 3 mins. conversation might be difficult but not impossible. I've been hiring since the time of the beeper, before that guys had to sit at home and wait. Now they could be at the Metro in DC step aside, and talk to you.

 

 

Many escorts state "no texts" in their ads. Sounds like he, too, needs to state that.

 

Many of them do, many of them say texting only, good for them.

 

I don't mind texting "I'm on my way", or "I just parked", I just need to hear his voice over the phone. I guess I'm old fashioned but I ain't crazy.

 

 

 

If you are worried about phone records being subpoenaed, talking with escorts over the phone would probably not allay those fears.

 

We all have opinions but a fact is a fact and you're wrong about this one. Texting does remain forever, texts could be retrieved with a subpoena but unless the NSA is taping my calls NOW, in the future my company will only say that I called that number and talked for 2 or 3 minutes or someone from that number called me.

 

 

It seems rather a large leap to equate texting an escort with "refusing to talk over the phone" and "insist[ing] on making plans by text only."

 

I know, someone could text you now and call you later, right.... Some guys refuse to talk over the phone and insist in talking only by text... It's the truth! I personally think it's rude to be texting while on a business meeting or at dinner, why don't you just step aside and call for 3 minutes? It's my opinion.

 

 

 

I don't think so.

 

I think considering prostitution is illegal in all the country except a few counties in NV, texting an escort all the details about the things you want to do sexually, including payment is self-destructive.

 

Did nobody pay attention to the NSA-Snowden scandal?

 

 

If that works for you, that's great! However, it is your preference. It is not everyone's preference. Seems rather self-destructive to become bothered by other peoples' preferences, particularly when they have not effect on you.

 

Yes, it's my preference to talk over the phone before making plans. I'm not forcing you or anybody else to do it. "Self-destructive"? I think that word triggered you and that's the reason despite been "crunched on time" you took the effort to write this. Talking over the phone before making plans is self-destructive? Are you serious? Doing drugs is self-destructive, not paying your taxes hoping not to get caught, not using your safety belt on a plane, BB sex those things ARE self-destructive.

 

Besides you're the one who seems bothered by my insane preference to listen to an escort's voice over the phone (sorry to be so redundant)... I think texting or emailing "how much to top you?" it's self-destructive, been cautious in a moderate way isn't self-destructive. Maybe I should have used the word: "careless".

 

Btw, I'm not bothered at all by the fact of some clients and maybe a few escorts prefer to make plans by text, but I'd rather listening to the escorts voice and after that just texting "I'm on my way". Am I that crazy?

 

Btw I don't like effeminate guys, and I think some accents could be sexy, maybe that's why I'm such a self-destructive freak who still talks to people on the phone.

 

God, I never thought this issue would be so controversial.

 

My policy has always been to either text or email (depending on the escort's preference) to see if a meeting is possible at a certain time and place. Since I never do last minute hires, this has always worked. The next correspondence via the above methods would be to set up a time that we can discuss the next step on the phone. I have always used my personal computer and phone for the arrangement and never put anything in writing that could possibly cause either of us any problems.

This method has been totally perfect for me and has been appreciated and preferred by all the guys I have hired.

 

Boston Bill

 

I will text or email an escort initially, but as you mention, I want to hear a voice at some point, even if I am arranging a massage. I might text to contact him, but then I want to hear a voice. In the first text or email, I will give the escort additional contact information, let him know my preference, and leave it at that. Sending inappropriate texts to an escort is never OK....I keep texts short, to the point and talk only in general terms, certainly nothing explicit. Now that being said, in my personal life, I do find that I text far more than I call for many reasons, so for me texting has become more of a habit.

 

If I were that escort, I would have told the potential clients immediately that their 'explicit sexual requests' were inappropriate.

 

I guess yinz are self-destructive phone-Nazi men imposing your believes on everybody else....

 

C'mon guys, let's argue about something it's worth arguing about...

[marylander1940]

 

God, I never thought this issue would be so controversial.

 

I guess yinz are self-destructive phone-Nazi men imposing your believes on everybody else....

 

C'mon guys, let's argue about something it's worth arguing about...

 

Btw, that was sarcasm. I go a few PM about it, I should have been more clear.

I agree with BVB and Bosguy on this subject!

[Atomicshawn]

I'm glad that there are clients who still prefer a phone call to get a feel for the other person. It really does go both ways as far as getting a first impression over the phone. As stated above, it can paint a better picture of who you will be meeting, if they sound more masculine, girly, etc.

 

Another problem from an escorts perspective is the endless "what's up" or "you free" or "how big" texts from out of nowhere. If someone was to call me up and say nothing but THAT I'd immediately assume that person was not serious about a session. To me, texting is the lazy man's way of setting something like this up. The serious clients ( in my opinion) are those who will either email and/or call to set something up instead of sending endless one liners that get us both nowhere.

For the regular clients, texting is never a problem since a relationship has already been developed and we know we aren't looking to waste each others time.

Keep in mind, I've found that this method works best for myself and my clients. Other clients/escorts might have more success WITH the one liner text messages.

Everyone is different

[anotherjohnindupont]

I'm glad that there are clients who still prefer a phone call to get a feel for the other person. It really does go both ways as far as getting a first impression over the phone. As stated above, it can paint a better picture of who you will be meeting, if they sound more masculine, girly, etc.

 

To me, texting is the lazy man's way of setting something like this up. The serious clients ( in my opinion) are those who will either email and/or call to set something up instead of sending endless one liners that get us both nowhere.

For the regular clients, texting is never a problem since a relationship has already been developed and we know we aren't looking to waste each others time.

Keep in mind, I've found that this method works best for myself and my clients. Other clients/escorts might have more success WITH the one liner text messages.

Everyone is different

 

Exactly, it's easier to get a feeling by talking just a couple of minutes!

 

After I know the guys, I simply text him "Are you free at ...?", and after he replies I simply text "on my way" so the guy jumps in the shower and gets ready, but that's only with the escorts I know and I want o see them again because we have chemistry and there's no need to talk about prices, dos and don'ts, kissing, versatility, and other details because I know them and I already asked those questions by email the first time I contacted them.

 

I certainly wouldn't ask by text or even by email something too sexual, when I travel I simply use the hotel's phone.

[instudiocity]

Ancient Wisdom:

"Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open.

Everything that is hidden will be uncovered.

What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight.

What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops."

 

Only now the US Government in the form of the NSA and 'oga' along with our employers and bankers who are the specialists in gathering these things, said and done.

[McLeanspider]

I get a better feeling after talking with the escort on the phone.

I'm certainly not into endless texting but I do text or email first asking if he's free to talk and I also send and receive addresses by texts.

[bigvalboy]

Ancient Wisdom:

"Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open.

Everything that is hidden will be uncovered.

What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight.

What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops."

 

Only now the US Government in the form of the NSA and 'oga' along with our employers and bankers who are the specialists in gathering these things, said and done.

 

Love this....two thumbs up.

[Bosguy]

Ancient Wisdom:

"Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open.

Everything that is hidden will be uncovered.

What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight.

What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops."

 

Only now the US Government in the form of the NSA and 'oga' along with our employers and bankers who are the specialists in gathering these things, said and done.

 

Love that quote because it's so true in just about every situation in life. Isn't it a very classy way of saying "Be careful what you say or do, cause it will come back and bite you in the ass". Good rule to follow, but there are people who don't heed it's warning.

 

Boston Bill

[+ ArVaGuy]

Perhaps due to my living in DC for 25 years, having been interviewed for six security background checks for friends, neighbors and colleagues, as well as having a friend who is a high ranking civilian at No Such Agency, I cannot help but find this paranoia about alleged domestic surveillance and privacy to be completely ridiculous. What nefarious activities are you people engaged in that you seriously have to worry about the NSA doing exactly what it was charted to perform over sixty years ago? The horse left the barn a long time ago.

[+ ArVaGuy]

Apologies for the off topic rant about the NSA issue. Returning to the original topic, I'd rather make initial contact by email then follow up with a phone call. A call allows direct communication to review and discuss the details of the hire. Text messages are more for "on the way over" updates closer in to time of the appointment.

[marylander1940]

Perhaps due to my living in DC for 25 years, having been interviewed for six security background checks for friends, neighbors and colleagues, as well as having a friend who is a high ranking civilian at No Such Agency, I cannot help but find this paranoia about alleged domestic surveillance and privacy to be completely ridiculous. What nefarious activities are you people engaged in that you seriously have to worry about the NSA doing exactly what it was charted to perform over sixty years ago? The horse left the barn a long time ago.

 

 

Apologies for the off topic rant about the NSA issue. Returning to the original topic, I'd rather make initial contact by email then follow up with a phone call. A call allows direct communication to review and discuss the details of the hire. Text messages are more for "on the way over" updates closer in to time of the appointment.

 

You were totally ON subject and giving a new perspective. You made some us sound a little paranoid about our communications with escorts through emails or texts as if we were ready to become Hillary Clinton's running mate...

 

Thank you for posting!

 

P.S.: I'm glad you belong to the "phone call" group, welcome to the club.

[thickornotatall]

Does an escort actually think you are either calling or texting to discuss the weather?....Keep a 2nd cell phone for "dates"...I notice a few state "no explicit messages"...good idea...Personally I never call or text first..and never use explicit language....I'm not a dirty talker....I'm a dirty doer...

[Bargara Leatherboy]

Btw, that was sarcasm. I go a few PM about it, I should have been more clear.

I agree with BVB and Bosguy on this subject!

 

Anything that makes reference to the Nazi is not only offensive but continuing to perpetrate the hate they committed. may I remind you it was where the Pink Triange, came from.

 

Text is good, but I do like a voice call as well. text or email is great for busy people and discrete calls. I can be in a airport or bar or restaurant and texting an escort, but I cannot say, I want to be tied up and spanked in the airline Business Lounge etc.

[marylander1940]

Does an escort actually think you are either calling or texting to discuss the weather?....Keep a 2nd cell phone for "dates"...I notice a few state "no explicit messages"...good idea...Personally I never call or text first..and never use explicit language....I'm not a dirty talker....I'm a dirty doer...

 

res non verba.

 

Text is good, but I do like a voice call as well. text or email is great for busy people and discrete calls. I can be in a airport or bar or restaurant and texting an escort, but I cannot say, I want to be tied up and spanked in the airline Business Lounge etc.

 

If you text you want to be "I want to be tied up and spanked" it will remain on your company's cellphone record for life, I think a phone calls is more discreet and a faster way to get a feeling and I'm on the majority on this subject

 

You can always step aside and call to see if you get a good feeling from that guy over the phone, that's what I would do and that was the point of this forum.

 

Thank you all of you for taking time to post on here.