Kvetch, kvetch

[Guest gentle guy]

I was going to post this in "Ask an Escort," but it is really meant for everybody to attack--I mean, to read and consider. :+

 

Three complaints that can apply to anyone from aol fly-by-nights to well-reviewed (and well-posted) guys:

 

1. Escorts who do not bring their own "supplies" (condoms and lube). I don't know if it's carelessness, absent-mindedness, laziness, or thrift (let the client provide, lol).

 

2. Escorts who, while playing with you, insist on talking about their girlfriends or their wives, or ask if you enjoy "fucking pussy" (and they mean women), because they do. If this is an attempt to instill a straight-boy fantasy, it's not working...

 

3. The old favorite: escorts who don't return email after a reasonable period of time. If you're on aol, you know it's been read, too. A simple "Thanks for the interest, but no can do" would suffice. The "so many emails" and "I did a mass delete" excuses wear thin after a while.

 

I feel better now. :+

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Better, Bestest, Best

 

>1. . . . "supplies"

 

Has been discussed. Consensus was, to my recollection, irrespective of whether you were a top or bottom, bring your own, whether you are an escort or client, just to ensure a good experience.

 

 

>2. . . . straight-boy fantasy

 

Akin to the Twink Boy fantasy and muscle worship. Who really believe Mark Daulton when he made protestations about being "bi-sexual" or "somewhat confused." So long as there are men who are going to pay for an experience who are unwilling or unable to respectfully request or simply desire a worthwhile experience, hustlers will continue to thrive.

 

>

>3. The old favorite: escorts who don't return email after a

>reasonable period of time.

 

Much tougher nut to crack, albeit this has been discussed as well. What is reasonable, for example. If I were in Moscow for one week, with a client, would it be appropriate for me to bring out my lap top and spend an hour or so each day that week dealing with e-mail (that is about the minimum amount of time I spend daily)?

 

Some clients do not know how to properly address e-mail. Sad but true. If they send e-mail with NO SUBJECT, they should not be surprised that it might get deleted, get put into a bulk mail folder or otherwise not receive a response.

 

I am sure others will offer comments on this particular issue, but it is beyond mere courtesy and good professionalism (or youth); and those issues have also been discussed here elsewhere.

 

Water is something else you do not need to pay for, but tell me, do you?

 

http://www.gaydar.co.uk/francodisantis

[Guest gentle guy]

Just kvetching

 

>What is reasonable, for example. If I were in Moscow

>for one week, with a client, would it be appropriate for me to

>bring out my lap top and spend an hour or so each day that

>week dealing with e-mail (that is about the minimum amount of

>time I spend daily)?

 

Then "reasonable" would be a couple of days after you returned, to give you a chance to unwind and catch up.

 

 

 

>Some clients do not know how to properly address e-mail. Sad

>but true.

 

I am sure that is true. I should have added "properly-titled" to my complaint. (We both pay attention to that detail--for example, you and I seem to be two of the few people here who change subject lines.)

 

 

 

>those issues have also been discussed here

>elsewhere.

 

I know that, Franco. I was just complaining! Kvetch: "a nagging complaint." (It also means "to complain persistently and whiningly," but it's my first time complaining!)

 

:+

[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: Just kvetching

 

>>What is reasonable, for example. If I were in Moscow

>>for one week, with a client, would it be appropriate for me

>to

>>bring out my lap top and spend an hour or so each day that

>>week dealing with e-mail (that is about the minimum amount

>of

>>time I spend daily)?

>

>Then "reasonable" would be a couple of days after you

>returned, to give you a chance to unwind and catch up.

 

What's the rule on domestic travel? I have to admit I let a few emails from non-New Yorkers go a little stale last week. :7 I think I'm just about caught up though...

[Guest gentle guy]

You don't elicit kvetching

 

>>Then "reasonable" would be a couple of days after you

>>returned, to give you a chance to unwind and catch up.

>

>What's the rule on domestic travel?

 

The same "rule" applies, although you get an automatic extension for exemplary behavior. ;-)

 

To be serious, with your diary, Devon, a sincerely interested client would know when you are out of town, and a thoughtful one would wait for a response after you had returned for a couple of days.

[Guest Merlin]

So what is your excuse for not providing the supplies or at least having them available? Where is it written that the escort provides the supplies? At the risk of being judgmental, I would suggest that this tells us you are just being cheap, i.e. greedy in even small amounts. It is a form of obsessive/compulsive behavior.

[Guest gentle guy]

Me-ow!!!

 

Merlin, you are one of the last people from whom I expected this reaction!

 

1) I never said I would not have supplies available. In fact, I always do. I have never acted on the assumption that my partner would provide.

 

2) I would assume that if one's profession is escort, one would have the requisite tools of the trade available. Does your physician ask you for rubber gloves or an alcohol swab?

 

3) Since you felt compelled to make your post a direct and personal jab, I would like to point out that my friends, family, and coworkers consider me generous, perhaps at times overly so. Others who post here could confirm that trait; would you like me to provide references?

 

4) I never realized that you had the credentials and clinical expertise to diagnose me with an obsessive-compulsive disorder (or a form of it) based upon a humorous kvetch. You have saved me thousands of dollars in assessment fees! Thank you!

 

By the way, ever hear of the King David reaction?

 

I think I liked it better here in my years as a lurker...

 

:+

[Guest DevonSFescort]

RE: You don't elicit kvetching

 

>To be serious, with your diary, Devon, a sincerely interested

>client would know when you are out of town, and a thoughtful

>one would wait for a response after you had returned for a

>couple of days.

 

I appreciate the compliment, but there are actually some sincerely interested clients who don't read my diary, but hire me based on other parts of my site (like the pics and turn-ons pages). And they deserve a timely email response too.

[giovoni]

Do you provide your Dr with a stethoscope? You go in and you KNOW he's going to use one. Why do you assume s/he'll have one all the time? If YOU don't bring one in are you cheap?

 

Escorts should always bring their own supplies. even if clients do have condoms when I visit them they usually aren't big enough to do anything but become a tourniquet.

[Flower]

> even if

>clients do have condoms when I visit them they usually aren't

>big enough to do anything but become a tourniquet.

 

:9 Very nice "aside" :+

[Bilbo]

When I got busted (There, I referred to it without the word entrapment, happy, everyone?) (Oh, yeah?! Well, if you don't read what's in parentheses I didn't use it, only thought it. What do I know? I'm neither a lawyer nor a psychologist.) Anyway, where were we? On the evening in question, I had a bottle of poppers in with the condoms and lube in my goody bag. Almost got me in more trouble than I got into without it. So maybe the escort shouldn't supply that.

 

Now that I only do incalls, I like the home court advantage where I get to choose the lube. }(