Most of the 'big name' cities in the US just seem so over-rated.

[JoeyBryant]

...As it related to the business at hand that is. The city itself may be great and have lots to offer, but I'm speaking of the particular gay male escort market.

 

For those who advertise, you may be familiar with rentboy's 'diamond' ad. It lists all the major cities in which you can advertise and bid on, and be at the top of the list. That way, you get maximum exposure. They seem to advertise them as 'hot' markets. I don't know if hot means the choices clients to choose from, or the amount of clients choosing. They include

 

» London » Paris

» Manhattan » Boston

» Los Angeles » San Francisco

» Miami » Ft. Lauderdale

» Chicago » Washington DC

» Las Vegas » Atlanta

 

Prior to yesterday, I've been to all of them except NYC, DC and Europe. What they all had in common, is they often seemed to fall short of my expectations based on the number of replies I had received, with the exception of San Fran. I would arrive, meet the 1 or 2 clients who kept in touch...and then wonder if my phone was turned on. My most recent trip was to Philadelphia and the surrounding PA area. Tons of replies, only a tiny fraction showed up.

 

It makes me wonder, what is it about these places? I know there's lots to choose from both paid and otherwise...but its disappointing when people in and out the industry telling me to go to this place and that place...and it not turning out as well as I thought for me.

 

Someone could argue that perhaps it's just me. That I'm doing something wrong, or my dick isn't X size or this, that and the 3rd. But at the same time, I can go to less 'popular' places and it clearly shows that it isn't about me because I leave having met nearly everyone who contacted me and didn't leave wondering why 12 people failed to reply or cancelled appointments. There's some places far from the coasts that an escort only comes by once every lunar eclipse. They aren't very accessible to flying to, so it's generally overlooked. It's off the beaten path. Beyond that, I think the U.S. markets are just too saturated. In addition, being a minority I'm somewhat a niche...and many of the bigger cities have a smaller amount of clients who are looking for that, and it seems too many trying to compete for that niche.

 

Of course, I'm not saying any of these cities I haven't met anyone. But my definition of doing good, and what it takes to go home happy and not just 'broke even' is totally different than what is actually made. Hypothetically, $500 or $600 your first day someplace is not bad if you live where that happens or are already being flown around by a company who is paying for all your flights/accommodations (which is likely going to be the result of things for me if I'm going to continue these type of trips). But it's bad when out of 3 or 4 days, that's all you get when you had atleast $5,000 worth of responses (again, hypothetically). It just leaves you with a feeling of getting your hopes up, and like people want to see you make the trip and not actually see you.

[Nvr2Thick]

Maybe there aren't all that many, but it seems to me that you frequently post about what's wrong with cities. Maybe it just isn't possible for you to have a good business model. Escorting can't be an easy business. As a muscular, hung, hairy man of color who is more masculine than twink or pretty-boy, and who is not quite an A-list guy you're always going to attract tastes that are slightly off the mainstream.

 

It wouldn't surprise me that in your smaller home city you're fishing from a smaller pool, and that over time you're going to have fewer men interested because they've been there and done that. When you travel to smaller cities the clients have had fewer options and they're starved for someone new. In the very large cities there can be such a large selection, both in and out of the mainstream, that you're still dealing with healthy, established competition.

 

I'm not a mainstream guy. I like extremes -- mature, masculine, hung, hairy, built, ethnic... As a client, my hometown has no options available for me. When any escort travels in I will consider him because he's new and different. I will also give careful consideration to a traveling escort because he's LEAVING and I won't have to run into him socially. When I travel to a very big city I can be overwhelmed by the choices. When I've been in NYC or Miami I've met quite a few men who I would consider as regulars if I lived there. In these cities I could imagine that I could spend years exploring all the options, particularly as new talent comes on board. I don't know that a traveling escort would even register.

[ErieBear]

I think that it's probably a supply and demand thing. If you come to a city, say the size of Pittsburgh, we have so few escorts and none that have a stellar reputation. So, there's more demand for good escorts. We know that if we miss you, it's going to be awhile before we can see a good escort. Meanwhile, in NYC or Chicago, there are so many decent escorts, that if they miss you, they can hire someone else.

[JoeyBryant]

Maybe there aren't all that many, but it seems to me that you frequently post about what's wrong with cities. Maybe it just isn't possible for you to have a good business model. Escorting can't be an easy business. As a muscular, hung, hairy man of color who is more masculine than twink or pretty-boy, and who is not quite an A-list guy you're always going to attract tastes that are slightly off the mainstream.

 

In these cities I could imagine that I could spend years exploring all the options, particularly as new talent comes on board. I don't know that a traveling escort would even register.

 

OK, you were making sense with everything else, but you lost me here. Again, you're suggesting something about my 'business model' as a reason, yet you go on to mention a traveling escort wouldn't quite register to you if you lived in said cities? It's almost like you're agreeing to what I'm saying, but still go on to say it's something I'm not doing. That doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm not saying there's anything 'wrong' with the cities, for one. I'm also curious as to who are these off-the mainstream men are. Have you met with the clients I've met with? Because I've very often met clients who have seen the same guys who would be considered 'mainstream' and A-list...some right from this site. And being mainstream tastes (whatever that is or means, elaborate) doesn't guarantee anything either. In fact, where only the 'mainstream' exists, is where the outcome is better.

 

I can name lots of other cities that have proven to be better than rentboy's big markets (just using it as reference). But, they will never really be on the level as some of the other places as far as being a place where every week...you have 1 escort after the next flying in, so the next traveling guy is just another of the many. And that's a good thing, because it gives the chance to make an impression. That's harder to do in many of these larger cities.

 

One would almost think, making $400 in less than an hour would be something LA would do for someone. But it ends up turning out that old podunk came out to be the better outcome than trying to go into the same market that everyone and their grandma recommends going. Okay, maybe not that small of a place...but relatively they are. And it has nothing to do with what list you're on. If you're good, you're going to do good. If you're not good you're not going to do well. But, I don't believe good is defined by how well you can do in these so-called 'hot' markets.

 

There must be something right about my business model, to be able to live a life where I don't have to work my ass off to make money for someone else for over 5 years...and not have to share a roof with no one, and still have all the creature comforts I desire. It must be SOMETHING.

 

I think that it's probably a supply anIt's like dogma. Go to the biggest city, and you'll do the best job. See the most clients. Yet, in reality it's little old podunk over there turned out to be far more worth it than trying to compete with 50 million other popcorn providers. And it doesn't matter what list you're on. If you suck, you suck. But even if you're good, being good may not be enough.d demand thing. If you come to a city, say the size of Pittsburgh, we have so few escorts and none that have a stellar reputation.

 

That's another thing. Places that have guys with less than stellar reputations are also challenging. Because they've been 'burnt' so to speak, there's always a bit of hesitation. Chicago is one of those places. When I met a client in Minneapolis tell me about his getting mugged by escorts he met on Chicago adam story, it obviously isn't an isolated event. It happens, and it messes up a good thing for the next guy.

[tyro]

Your post shows exactly why y'all need to come to the MIDWEST!!!!!!! We LOVE our traveling boys!!!!!

Seriously though -- exclamation points aside -- I generally have to travel 100+ miles to get to the travelers. Any idea how irksome that gets??

T

[smendez1942]

Maybe there aren't all that many, but it seems to me that you frequently post about what's wrong with cities. Maybe it just isn't possible for you to have a good business model. Escorting can't be an easy business. As a muscular, hung, hairy man of color who is more masculine than twink or pretty-boy, and who is not quite an A-list guy you're always going to attract tastes that are slightly off the mainstream.

 

It wouldn't surprise me that in your smaller home city you're fishing from a smaller pool, and that over time you're going to have fewer men interested because they've been there and done that. When you travel to smaller cities the clients have had fewer options and they're starved for someone new. In the very large cities there can be such a large selection, both in and out of the mainstream, that you're still dealing with healthy, established competition.

 

I'm not a mainstream guy. I like extremes -- mature, masculine, hung, hairy, built, ethnic... As a client, my hometown has no options available for me. When any escort travels in I will consider him because he's new and different. I will also give careful consideration to a traveling escort because he's LEAVING and I won't have to run into him socially. When I travel to a very big city I can be overwhelmed by the choices. When I've been in NYC or Miami I've met quite a few men who I would consider as regulars if I lived there. In these cities I could imagine that I could spend years exploring all the options, particularly as new talent comes on board. I don't know that a traveling escort would even register.

 

Good reply.

 

Those with a negative attitude usually breed negativity around them on a constant basis. This may be the case here. It's odd that this escort takes a crap on some of the best cities in the USA just because he isn't making money off of them. Looking back at many of his previous posts, it's clear there are very few places he likes and even fewer where he's made any money.

[JoeyBryant]

Your post shows exactly why y'all need to come to the MIDWEST!!!!!!! We LOVE our traveling boys!!!!!

Seriously though -- exclamation points aside -- I generally have to travel 100+ miles to get to the travelers. Any idea how irksome that gets??

T

 

If you're in Nebraska or Iowa, I'm there occasionally. But again, I don't think such places are going to be flight-destination worthy. One has to be willing to drive the distance, and if you're not really in the region it might not even be worth it. It's worth it to me because it's in the region I live.

 

I daresay I even want to keep some places a secret. Me and another guy I know mainly know about them, and he was kind of my predecessor. But I still have some areas that no one knows about or really goes to except the locals. You're not going to get those flush of phony baloney email responses and calls like the bigger cities tend to do, so many won't bother making a trip.

 

Good reply.

 

Those with a negative attitude usually breed negativity around them on a constant basis. This may be the case here. It's odd that this escort takes a crap on some of the best cities in the USA just because he isn't making money off of them. Looking back at many of his previous posts, it's clear there are very few places he likes and even fewer where he's made any money.

 

Stop. Please, just stop. No one is being negative. But you're making it negative by applying your own connotations to this.

[+ Axiom2001]

Joey, I did not find any reviews of your expertise @ daddysreviews.com unless they're inactive. I also went to your http://www.men4rentnow.com, really liked the text and those hot and encouraging and enticing photographs and wondered why you do not have ads at http://www.rentboy.com and/or http://www.rentmen.com. I think you'd generate more interests and business.

I, for one, rarely go to that site, for I personally have never liked its format and its lack of user-friendliness or manueverability. And, if you do manage to return to the San Francisco

Bay Area after October 16 and before year's end, I'd be anxious and willing to meet you! For I like all that I read and saw at your ad at my least favorite review site!

[+ Axiom2001]

Joey, I did not find any reviews of your expertise @ daddysreviews.com unless they're inactive. I also went to your http://www.men4rentnow.com, really liked the text and those hot and encouraging and enticing photographs and wondered why you do not have ads at http://www.rentboy.com and/or http://www.rentmen.com. I think you'd generate more interests and business.

I, for one, rarely go to that site, for I personally have never liked its format and its lack of user-friendliness or manueverability. And, if you do manage to return to the San Francisco

Bay Area after October 16 and before year's end, I'd be anxious and willing to meet you! For I like all that I read and saw at your ad at my least favorite review site!

 

When I read about all of the men who had wanted to see you when you did arrive in their respective cities and have these times not happen, I felt bad and sorrow for you. I would be pissed too if I'd spent all of this money for my particular hotel stay and for all of the other expenses and then have these guys flake out with their canceling or never following through!

[BgMstr4u]

At some point on this board someone made a very astute observation that has remained with me about the question of traveling escorts and the roll-of-the-dice nature of coming to a city, setting it all up and then not much happens. That person, as I recall, spoke in terms of an "anchor client" in each city -- cultivating a client relationship in each city that was a sure thing, and then building around it. In other words, a client who wants a full evening or overnight and whose fee covers most if not all of the escort's travel and hotel expenses. Not that the client pays for those separately from the fee for time, but that his fee would be enough to cover the basic expenses. Then the rest is gravy, so to speak. I wonder if that might work for you. I know if I were in the business (at 66 perhaps I won't be!) I would need to have a pretty healthy capital base to hazard going to a place with nothing but internet ads and a few vague phone calls working for me.

[Mac64]

Sorry Joey, but I have to agree with Smendez1942, maybe it's not intentional, but you come off as very negative in a lot of your posts. You are a good looking guy with a great body, but you complain about big cities and then write off smaller cities in the Midwest, like where i live, as not "flight destination worthy" . Lighten up! Pick some cities and go out and advertise with a positive attitude!

[Nvr2Thick]

OK, you were making sense with everything else, but you lost me here. Again, you're suggesting something about my 'business model' as a reason, yet you go on to mention a traveling escort wouldn't quite register to you if you lived in said cities? It's almost like you're agreeing to what I'm saying, but still go on to say it's something I'm not doing. That doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm not saying there's anything 'wrong' with the cities, for one. I'm also curious as to who are these off-the mainstream men are. Have you met with the clients I've met with? Because I've very often met clients who have seen the same guys who would be considered 'mainstream' and A-list...some right from this site. And being mainstream tastes (whatever that is or means, elaborate) doesn't guarantee anything either. In fact, where only the 'mainstream' exists, is where the outcome is better.

 

I can name lots of other cities that have proven to be better than rentboy's big markets (just using it as reference). But, they will never really be on the level as some of the other places as far as being a place where every week...you have 1 escort after the next flying in, so the next traveling guy is just another of the many. And that's a good thing, because it gives the chance to make an impression. That's harder to do in many of these larger cities.

 

One would almost think, making $400 in less than an hour would be something LA would do for someone. But it ends up turning out that old podunk came out to be the better outcome than trying to go into the same market that everyone and their grandma recommends going. Okay, maybe not that small of a place...but relatively they are. And it has nothing to do with what list you're on. If you're good, you're going to do good. If you're not good you're not going to do well. But, I don't believe good is defined by how well you can do in these so-called 'hot' markets.

 

There must be something right about my business model, to be able to live a life where I don't have to work my ass off to make money for someone else for over 5 years...and not have to share a roof with no one, and still have all the creature comforts I desire. It must be SOMETHING.

 

 

I am making two points, but they don't contradict each other.

 

I'm saying that you can't have a good business model (I should say that it's not possible to have a great business model) not because of something you're not doing, but because of who you are. You're slightly off the mainstream because you're ethnic and hairy. You're young, but your look reads as mature. You present yourself as a regular guy, but your race is going to put you in a niche. There's going to be some overlap for some clients, but a lot are going to pigeonhole you as BBC. If you go to New York you're going to compete with the plethora of smooth, perfect white and young guys, or the bigger buff butch guys who are more in the mainstream. As a mixed-race/black man you're also going to compete with the Diesel Washingtons and the other A-list ethnic escorts.

 

Maybe we are saying the same thing about big cities. In your smaller home city you can become old news quickly because of limited clientele. Visiting a smaller city you do well because the clients are bored with the limited selection, and you're "fresh". When visiting a larger city you may not be as exciting to clients because while you're fresh they have lots of options available to them.

 

By all means defend your business model if you're satisfied with the results it has brought you. I was responding to your complaint that you weren't necessarily bringing in enough to make a trip worth your while when you visit these larger cities.

 

and you have on the one hand said that these cities are overrated from a business perspective, and on the other suggested that you never said that there was anything wrong with them. The headline seems deliberately provocative. I know you've stated from the get-go that the cities have a lot to offer. To me though, you're complaining about the city when the issue is that it is difficult for you to compete in a larger escort market. That doesn't make a city overrated from any perspective, in my mind.

 

Don't get me wrong, with your look I'd be flying to Denver in a heartbeat if only you advertised as total top instead of versatile...

 

Also, I do agree with Mac64. Your posts about the business and how some phenomena adversely affect your ability to succeed do come across as negative. I wouldn't support the pile-on posts about how unsuccessful you are - because I just don't know. It does, however, seem like you're looking to assign blame when something doesn't work out for you. If that's not your intent it's still how you're perceived by some, and not our "connotation"

[+ FreshFluff]

I am making two points, but they don't contradict each other.

 

I'm saying that you can't have a good business model (I should say that it's not possible to have a great business model) not because of something you're not doing, but because of who you are. You're slightly off the mainstream because you're ethnic and hairy. You're young, but your look reads as mature.

 

Given the premium on youth in the escorting world, it might make sense to think about ways to look younger. For example, facial hair generally reads as older. You could test this by running two separate ads with facial hair and no facial hair photos. If that's problematic, you could put both photos up on some gay community site (preferably for 40+ men since many clients are that age) and seeing which one men prefer.

 

How much of a difference would being smooth make? You could always wax or even do something like electrolysis or laser though these options are expensive.

[JoeyBryant]

then write off smaller cities in the Midwest, like where i live, as not "flight destination worthy" . Lighten up! Pick some cities and go out and advertise with a positive attitude!

 

Sorry, I did not mean it in that way! I simply meant that such places are better to get to if one already lives in the region, and that flights getting to them can be expensive. and you may or may not make that money back. For example, Montana. I can get there and have a client there...Flights are always like $500 even from Denver, and it would involve getting on a charter jet after that. But I wouldn't recommend someone to invest flying from NYC to Great Falls Montana expecting to get a flush of clients because it doesn't work that way. I have relatives in Branson, Missouri. While I was there, I had a client who lived deep in the Ozarks about 60 some miles away hire me overnight while I was there, and it wasn't even advance notice. The nearest Int'l airports are well over 100 miles away. People who are flying would not really meet those clinets

 

Given the premium on youth in the escorting world, it might make sense to think about ways to look younger. For example, facial hair generally reads as older. You could test this by running two separate ads with facial hair and no facial hair photos. If that's problematic, you could put both photos up on some gay community site (preferably for 40+ men since many clients are that age) and seeing which one men prefer.

 

How much of a difference would being smooth make?

 

Life and death. Death being smooth, atleast for me. 99.9 BILLON % of my clients hire me because of the fuzz. Not the fuzz, but the fuzzy fuzz.

Clients can and have seen me smooth before. I have pictures shaved and un-shaved. I often get asked, which one am I like now? They want the hairy Joey, not smooth Joey. Maybe a few may like smooth, but what am I going to do? Shave 1 side and leave the other side like a stroke?

[JoeyBryant]

I am making two points, but they don't contradict each other.

 

I'm saying that you can't have a good business model (I should say that it's not possible to have a great business model) not because of something you're not doing, but because of who you are. You're slightly off the mainstream because you're ethnic and hairy. You're young, but your look reads as mature. You present yourself as a regular guy, but your race is going to put you in a niche. There's going to be some overlap for some clients, but a lot are going to pigeonhole you as BBC. If you go to New York you're going to compete with the plethora of smooth, perfect white and young guys, or the bigger buff butch guys who are more in the mainstream. As a mixed-race/black man you're also going to compete with the Diesel Washingtons and the other A-list ethnic escorts.

 

Maybe we are saying the same thing about big cities. In your smaller home city you can become old news quickly because of limited clientele. Visiting a smaller city you do well because the clients are bored with the limited selection, and you're "fresh". When visiting a larger city you may not be as exciting to clients because while you're fresh they have lots of options available to them.

 

By all means defend your business model if you're satisfied with the results it has brought you. I was responding to your complaint that you weren't necessarily bringing in enough to make a trip worth your while when you visit these larger cities.

 

and you have on the one hand said that these cities are overrated from a business perspective, and on the other suggested that you never said that there was anything wrong with them. The headline seems deliberately provocative. I know you've stated from the get-go that the cities have a lot to offer. To me though, you're complaining about the city when the issue is that it is difficult for you to compete in a larger escort market. That doesn't make a city overrated from any perspective, in my mind.

 

OK, and we already assessed that.

 

I wasn't JUST referring to the competition, but since you mentioned it...yes that is all a part of the 'over-rated' premise I was going on about. All the attributes that can make a place overrated includes; competition, the number of genuine replies versus those that don't follow up, and the cost of going to the places. Going to the bigger cities, one is generally paying more while dealing with more competition and...........................AND, possibly getting lots and lots of emails/calls/texts prior to arrival, and then arriving and then it not being what it 'appeared' to initially be. That's where the over-rated-ness comes in.

 

Listen, I'm taking in what you're saying, but you're saying stuff I already know. That's why I said what I said in my topic. They are overrated. LA was TOTALLY overrated to me. Me and Nate_SF discussed this at Palm Springs weekend and he said the same thing. I'm also saying it's overrated because in comparison to the smaller locations, I can see a jaw-dropping amount of clients...yet in the bigger cities I feel I leave not getting what I expected.

 

I'm not discounting your advice by any means. And I know I came on here and asked for it, and I have to take what I can get. But, you have to understand too...the solution may not always lie in the realm of thought and knowledge that you currently have available. Going back to your ethnicity paragraph, yes I know that it's something I have to deal with. #1, I don't see many Black clients. Take a place like Philadelphia:

 

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/21885.jpg

 

and DC

 

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/3714.jpg

 

During my time in Philadelphia, I did not see a single Black client. 2 days into DC, I still haven't had 1 contact and see me either. Now, reasons aside as to why I haven't, is irrelevant. The fact is, I'm not really getting hired much by my ethnic group. No matter what city, or how I looked or what my rates were, I never have either. It's just the way things are. White guys can go to a all White city and get hired by other White guys. As a Black guy, there's been very few mostly Black cities where I can go and do the same thing and see the same results. That's why Atlanta sucked so much, sadly without me ejaculating. So that puts me into a territory where I'm competing with lots of other Black escorts, moreso than where I'm used to being...for clients who are mainly White or 'other' (Latino/Asian/Etc.).

 

Contrast that to the typical Colorado neighborhood:

 

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/3079.jpg

 

 

Don't get me wrong, with your look I'd be flying to Denver in a heartbeat if only you advertised as total top instead of versatile...

 

Ohh woowa. Really? You must be one of those types that, "don't get fucked by bottoms?" Not saying I'm a bottom though. I also advertise as vers/top..not versatile. I probably get fucked on a quarterly-year basis if that. So, might be missing out on a good thing...

[Nvr2Thick]

Ohh woowa. Really? You must be one of those types that, "don't get fucked by bottoms?" Not saying I'm a bottom though. I also advertise as vers/top..not versatile. I probably get fucked on a quarterly-year basis if that. So, might be missing out on a good thing...

 

Yep. Total tops are part of the fantasy for me. I'm sure that I've missed out on some great fucks because knowing that a guy takes it in the ass kills a lot of the thrill for me. Based on what I can't possibly know about a guy, I'm sure that some of my favorite tops bottom regularly without me knowing. I have had a few let downs when finding out that some beefy hung stud who drilled me into next week is versatile or prefers bottom in real life. It's just the way I'm wired...

[JoeyBryant]

Yep. Total tops are part of the fantasy for me. I'm sure that I've missed out on some great fucks because knowing that a guy takes it in the ass kills a lot of the thrill for me. Based on what I can't possibly know about a guy, I'm sure that some of my favorite tops bottom regularly without me knowing. I have had a few let downs when finding out that some beefy hung stud who drilled me into next week is versatile or prefers bottom in real life. It's just the way I'm wired...

 

Well, that's just not me. I'm not one of those 'I get fucked every which way from Sunday, but I'm a top for pay because I can make more money' kind of guy. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but I'm not one of them.

 

But you never know. The kind you mentioned is a bit extreme, but there's been times when a guy who was a bottom throughout our encounters, suddenly wanted to try topping me once. I was a little turned on by it. Doesn't hurt to be reminded you're still with a man....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh...as a follow up to this thread, as I mentioned...not ALL the big cities are overrated. I liked DC, I'd see myself going back in the future. Unfortunently, it didn't quite win on my choice of a city to move for a variety of reasons. But overall, it was a great birthday gift and everytime I wear my Lacoste and Ecko colognes, I'll think of all the fun I had in DC. And cologne lasts me a LONG time. I still have a bottle of Bvlgari I bought in Seattle 2 years ago that's only half gone, and I wear it maybe 2-3 times a week.

[+ Axiom2001]

Joey, when do you think you'll return to the West Coast, San Francisco in particular? I don't live in 'The City' per se but usually meet my men in my first or second favorite city.

[JoeyBryant]

Joey, when do you think you'll return to the West Coast, San Francisco in particular? I don't live in 'The City' per se but usually meet my men in my first or second favorite city.

 

Saaaan Fraaaan Siscooooohhh might be my next trip actually. Once I get home, I'll have to figure things out of course. Right now, I'm in the 'I never want to travel ever again' mode. Where you've been gone for 15 days and get sick of hotels, fast food, and filling up gas tanks (What's with this 40 cent surcharge for premium gas in many states? I couldn't even find it for under $4 in D.C., yet regular is only $3.60/70. Taxing the hell out of it, as if everyone who needs premium is driving a fucking ferrari) Soon as I get home, I'll be talking about how much I can't wait to get out of town again.

 

I have to re-do Castro again, and do the bar scene. I was happy to do DuPont circle area...especially with the help of Chris Eisenhower and another person I met along the way. You know...we wolves, we like to roam and hunt, and I'm sure Castro is the perfect feeding grounds.