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I do not know Dave and was very interested in his interview and what he's been through. However I became a bit less impressed with the last question having to do with motivation and not in this for the money; but more or less connect with us out there who hire an escort. So if I invited you back to my nice house and said I wasn't going to pay you would you stay? And again I don't know Dave but I find this response very odd.

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I do not know Dave and was very interested in his interview and what he's been through. However I became a bit less impressed with the last question having to do with motivation and not in this for the money; but more or less connect with us out there who hire an escort. So if I invited you back to my nice house and said I wasn't going to pay you would you stay? And again I don't know Dave but I find this response very odd.

 

FWIW - I didn't read it that way. He doesn't say the money doesn't matter but that the other reasons are greater motivations.

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I do not know Dave and was very interested in his interview and what he's been through. However I became a bit less impressed with the last question having to do with motivation and not in this for the money; but more or less connect with us out there who hire an escort. So if I invited you back to my nice house and said I wasn't going to pay you would you stay? And again I don't know Dave but I find this response very odd.

 

I'm proud to be one of the members here who does know Dave and I've spent a good deal of time with him, both at his studio, my house and traveling. What surprised me was when Dave said that he is also affected by the intense relationships he builds up with his repeat clients - I had never thought about that, but in retrospect, I don't see how a man as sensitive and empathic as Dave could not have emotional connections to the clients he sees repeatedly.

 

Another of my regulars explained it to me this way - he said it is the difference between WILLING and ABLE. While he was willing to fly out and meet me somewhere for a weekend - unless he charged for his time he would not be able to do that. Sometimes we loose sight that just because these great guys charge for their time, does not mean that they are unfeeling, insensitive, money grubbers. They have bills to pay and this is their chosen profession - I've reconciled with the fact that I can be both emotionally attached AND pay for their time - on the flip side, I accept that they can also be emotionally attached AND charge for their time. It's complicated! LOL

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I notice that Dave says, "I never bareback bottom." That's good common sense. But does that mean that he barebacks as a top? Well, I guess that HE knows he's OK. And I suppose that his regulars also know it. But isn't that a bit unusual? But I'm sure that if a client said, "No bareback," that would be OK with Dave.

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I'm proud to be one of the members here who does know Dave and I've spent a good deal of time with him, both at his studio, my house and traveling. What surprised me was when Dave said that he is also affected by the intense relationships he builds up with his repeat clients - I had never thought about that, but in retrospect, I don't see how a man as sensitive and empathic as Dave could not have emotional connections to the clients he sees repeatedly.

 

Another of my regulars explained it to me this way - he said it is the difference between WILLING and ABLE. While he was willing to fly out and meet me somewhere for a weekend - unless he charged for his time he would not be able to do that. Sometimes we loose sight that just because these great guys charge for their time, does not mean that they are unfeeling, insensitive, money grubbers. They have bills to pay and this is their chosen profession - I've reconciled with the fact that I can be both emotionally attached AND pay for their time - on the flip side, I accept that they can also be emotionally attached AND charge for their time. It's complicated! LOL

 

Well said, Tom!

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I have never hired Dave, but enjoyed the interview a lot. I was surprised that Dave admitted that his ability to charm clients allowed them to overlook minor things in their escort relationships with him. He is right, but perhaps too honest. I wonder how his clients feel about that comment. Great charm is magic for those who have it, not just escorts. But, people with charm seldom discuss it.

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As a frequent client of Dave's he's alluding to minor client service issues. Since he does a number of longer appointments he may not be in a position to return an e-mail quickly - may take a day. Small things like that.

Having known him for 3 years it's no big deal, he'll get back to me when he can.

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He is right, but perhaps too honest.

 

Too honest? I don't know about with other clients, but yeah, sometimes with me at least. But that is what I count on, what I rely on, what I need the most. Because I know what I get from Dave is how he sees things -- no escort BS, no "charm". The brutal truth. And there have been times it has felt great. And there have been times that it hurt. Hard. And yes, there have been a couple of times where there have been a few tears shed. There have been times his words would ring in my ears for weeks, making me think, examine past actions, plan future steps.

 

All I know is that I have hired Dave more than any other escort -- by far. I have been with Dave a few dozen times in the last couple of years. He has helped me grow and experiment with so many different things -- some I liked, some I wasn't crazy for, but I tried. But the one constant. I always got the truth.

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I appreciate your comment and please don't let my response appear any disrespect for Dave. I too have an escort friend that I see regularly that refers me as his friend, invites me to dinner at his family home, but all the long I'm also paying. Maybe it's a question for me to have answered; is it me as a person or me as a cash machine. Rocky

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Too honest? I don't know about with other clients, but yeah, sometimes with me at least. But that is what I count on, what I rely on, what I need the most. Because I know what I get from Dave is how he sees things -- no escort BS, no "charm". The brutal truth. And there have been times it has felt great. And there have been times that it hurt. Hard. And yes, there have been a couple of times where there have been a few tears shed. There have been times his words would ring in my ears for weeks, making me think, examine past actions, plan future steps.

 

My post was about Dave's admitted ability to charm clients, nothing more. Yet your response indicates that Dave's charm plays little or no part in your relationship. I find that difficult to believe, given that the rest of your paragraph discusses the great effect his words have had on you, including tears and very close examination of your past actions.

 

Perhaps I am more honest with myself. I met someone who was not an escort last Sept. It took me a few days/weeks to realize how charming he was, with seemingly little effort. There were no tears, but I paid very close attention to everything he said. And like you I thought about his words for weeks/months. By last Dec, I realized he had become too important in my life. We still talk. He is a radio DJ, so some of our conversations are on the air, and therefore less personal. Clearly, my experience is more complication than I am presenting it...only because of space, not unwillingness to be honest.

 

I also realize that our experiences are different. I assume you are (were) paying Dave. In my case, the guy with charm to spare is (was) a friend. But, I felt all the same emotions you described in the paragraph your wrote (and I highlighted).

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Glad you guys liked the interview - it was a pleasure to spend time talking to him - and soon, I will meet him in person at an upcoming conference! I hope you all will check out the site more and spread the word about it to other guys working in the industry. Your feedback and participation are welcome!

 

Here's a little thing if you want to share and support Dave's interview:

 

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I applaud Dave for doing the interview. So many of us live in the shadows or in some kind of gay underworld. I am actually PROUD of my job and of who I am. I help alot of people in this biz and I make very good money. I think Hawk is doing a good thing . the use of the old school term , "hook," is interesting. Most of us leading pros bristle at being called , "hookers," as we prefer more socially acceptable terms like rentboys or rentmen. I am kind of liking old school though. I have dusted off the term , "gigolo," lately because as a young guy I always had a thing for Richard Gere in , "American Gigolo." Also while I have never actually hustled anyone (they come to me through my ads so hustling is not necessary) I like that word . The ,"Mikey" character River Phoneix played alongside Keanu in , :My own private Idaho" was the ultimate hustler. I still fantasize about that campfire scene when they had sex. A funny little story before I go: The other day i was flirting with a little 22 year old on grindr who mentioned he wanted to start escorting and i told him that if you HOOK UP then u r already a HOOKer anyway. He laughed! I shall watch his progress in the biz. http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop (northeast tour coming this summer!!!)

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