Tipping

[Maxx00]

Hi guys. No, this is not the typical tipping question. I understand it is best to leave the agreed payment out either in an envelope or just sitting on a table and not hand it directly to the escort (correct me if I'm wrong on that). My question is, how do you handle the tip if everything goes well? I had an unfortunate experience with a fairly well-reviewed escort. Since he was well-reviewed, I included a generous tip in the envelope I had already set out. The experience was less than satisfactory (it was over in about 35 minutes) but I was too embarrassed to dig through the cash to remove the tip or say anything (it was only my second escort experience). Needless to say, I won't make that mistake again. So, what is the best way to tip at the end? Just hand it over directly or add it to the payment on the table or in the envelope? Sorry if this sounds like a silly question.

[SteveEscort]

Hi guys. No, this is not the typical tipping question. I understand it is best to leave the agreed payment out either in an envelope or just sitting on a table and not hand it directly to the escort (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

 

In the decade and more that I have been escorting, that has happened me to me possibly on 1 or 2 occasions. Nearly all guys physically hand it to me, so I can put it somewhere safe, sometimes it's in an envelope, usually it isn't.

 

If I get a tip, it's usually at the end. I rarely ask for the money up front with regulars and so most will hand me a tip in with the actual fee at the end, however since the UK economy went into freefall, the amount of clients leaving a tip has dramatically diminished. I have said this before and I will say it again and many escorts agree with me..... a repeat appointment is worth more than any tip. I'd rather have another appointment with the guy than a tip.

[unsub2O17]

I think that this is a great question. Escorts, please answer it. I am just like Maxx00. I too have the tip set aside before we start and, only once, have I regretted it. I too have both handed the money directly to the escort and left it in a convenient place (making sure that he saw where). What I'd like to add to the question is "do you specifically tell the escort that you've left a tip in addition to the fee?". I prefer to mention it, but it feels embarrassing to me. I also have been handed money back by the escort with him saying that it was too much, and I've bumped up his fee in addition to a tip because I felt that he was undervaluing himself.

[jjkrkwood]

OK, mine is the controversial reply. I tip hairdressers because they spent time and money in school perfecting their skill. I tip waiters because they are minimum wage earners, as are valets, attendants, dog walkers etc. I also dont hire much, but when I do, its usually escorts costing $300-350 hr. In my book, that doesnt warrant a tip, as 100% of that fee goes in their pocket. And for the service I request from the hire, which is basically stand there and let me suck his cock, his basic fee is MORE than adequate. However, for those workers I DO tip, the tip always comes at the end of the service and is based on my satisfaction. It is never premeditated, unless its for waiters, who get a MINIMUM of 20%.

[SteveEscort]

I also dont hire much, but when I do, its usually escorts costing $300-350 hr. In my book, that doesnt warrant a tip, as 100% of that fee goes in their pocket. .

 

My father told me as a teenager, always tip for good service but never tip the owner, only the employees so it's a small cafe and the owner served you there is no need to tip them because it's their business and they're earning from it anyway. If it's a bar, never tip the owner again (in the UK it's not the done thing to tip in bars anyway not like in the US), only the bartender if it's not his business.

 

I don't expect to be tipped, never have and I never ever really think about it to be honest. Most incalls clients never tip, many outcall/hotel clients do.

[jawjateck]

I never pay upfront, but I do have the fee for the appointment set aside in advance, usually in a drawer or in a side pocket of my travel bag. I also set aside an additional amount separately as a potential tip, just in case the service is exceptional or I feel the provider is undercharging. If the encounter was average or satisfactory or met expectations (which describes most encounters these days), I'm likely to leave the tip in the bag, reach for the fee, and hand it to the escort. Thus, he doesn't know my intent, and there's not the awkwardness of the situation that you describe. Auto-tipping can lead to bitterness if you have a bad experience, and after the fact, recall to mind how you paid and tipped a guy for a lousy date.

[jjkrkwood]

I feel alot of the guys that Tip, do so NOT because of the service, but simply to create a better escort impression of themselves. They feel perhaps the escort will remember them better, want to see them again, or who knows what else. Its a personal thing and I guess the rule of thumb is "if you wanna tip, Do So".... I dont see a NEED for it...

[jjkrkwood]

I never pay upfront, but I do have the fee for the appointment set aside in advance, usually in a drawer or in a side pocket of my travel bag. I also set aside an additional amount separately as a potential tip, just in case the service is exceptional or I feel the provider is undercharging. If the encounter was average or satisfactory or met expectations, I'm likely to leave the tip in the bag, reach for the fee, and hand it to the escort. Thus, he doesn't know my intent, and there's not the awkwardness of the situation that you describe. Auto-tipping can lead to bitterness if you have a bad experience, and after the fact, recall to mind how you paid and tipped a guy for a lousy date.

 

Undercharging ??? For what ??? they way he fucks you ??? The way he can control his orgasm ??? Basically he is charging you for his TIME, and making you FEEL a certain way. I suppose if you cum away feeling X-tra special or weak in your knees, that might be worth something additional to you, but basically you are being a nice guy and giving more than his requested fee. Basically you are creating a better impression of Yourself.. for yourself.. I'm not really sure the escort cares ? Of course he will/should appreciate it, but does he really care? I'm not so sure.

[SteveEscort]

I feel the provider is undercharging.

 

I don't think there is any such thing as undercharging, escorts set their rates based on what level of work they wish to obtain. I keep mine at a reasonable level for the area I live in, the economy etc, guys in London charge 3 x what I charge an hour and some local escorts are £20-£30 an hour more than me but I like to have a steady flow of regular clients because in my other part time job I also work from home so I can fit in almost any appointment at any time of the day. A reasonable fee keeps me with a nice flow of new and regular clients each week and at a reasonable level I make a damn good living out of escorting.

[jawjateck]

I don't think there is any such thing as undercharging

 

As an example, I have hired an active duty army guy several times. He charges $300 for an overnight stay. He is late 20s, all-american handsome, great body, friendly, nice guy, extremely sexual and playful, no limitations on man2man play, fun in-the-sack, and fun on-the-go. A night with him is as exceptional as any other escort-of-the-year candidate, of whom I have hired many. That's undercharging and warrants a tip. Why does he ask for so little? He doesn't regard himself as a pro like all the other guys he sees advertising, and doesn't believe he could ever provide the same level of service as they. He is so wrong, and he's not the only provider I've met who thinks that way. To experience these guys, you have to take an occasional chance on the newbies, and the unreviewed crowd. High risk, yes, but high reward also.

[citylaw1]

OK, mine is the controversial reply. I tip hairdressers because they spent time and money in school perfecting their skill. I tip waiters because they are minimum wage earners, as are valets, attendants, dog walkers etc. I also dont hire much, but when I do, its usually escorts costing $300-350 hr. In my book, that doesnt warrant a tip, as 100% of that fee goes in their pocket. And for the service I request from the hire, which is basically stand there and let me suck his cock, his basic fee is MORE than adequate. However, for those workers I DO tip, the tip always comes at the end of the service and is based on my satisfaction. It is never premeditated, unless its for waiters, who get a MINIMUM of 20%.

 

Wow! We actually agree on every point! If I hire through an agency, assuming the appointment went well, I tip 20%.

[maxwellissmart]

Undercharging ??? For what ??? they way he fucks you ??? The way he can control his orgasm ??? Basically he is charging you for his TIME, and making you FEEL a certain way. I suppose if you cum away feeling X-tra special or weak in your knees, that might be worth something additional to you, but basically you are being a nice guy and giving more than his requested fee. Basically you are creating a better impression of Yourself.. for yourself.. I'm not really sure the escort cares ? Of course he will/should appreciate it, but does he really care? I'm not so sure.

 

I get what Jawja is saying, and it does happen. Regarding the original question: tipping is unnecessary and I don't expect it. I certainly don't walk away from an appointment with the attitude: "well, he didn't even tip me!" I walk away from an appointment thinking either "well, that was fun [and I made $___]" or "that didn't go like I wanted it to. What happened?"

 

I would handle tipping like this: keep the original fee in one place and the possible tip amount in another, nearby place.

"Hey, this is for you—and thank you! I put something extra in there for you—you deserve it."

 

Never tip an escort who doesn't deserve it. You should be a discriminating client, not a pushover.

 

Done.

[Phil_musc]

JJ, welcome back - missed reading your posts! And I agree with what you've written here. I don't tip my doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc. These are folks who command a comparable hourly rate. The "tip" is already in the rate. You guys who are tipping on top of the high rate you've already paid need to take a self-esteem building course or something ;-)

 

Repeat business is the best tip as was noted above.

[SteveEscort]

As an example, I have hired an active duty army guy several times. He charges $300 for an overnight stay. He is late 20s, all-american handsome, great body, friendly, nice guy, extremely sexual and playful, no limitations on man2man play, fun in-the-sack, and fun on-the-go. A night with him is as exceptional as any other escort-of-the-year candidate, of whom I have hired many. That's undercharging and warrants a tip. Why does he ask for so little? He doesn't regard himself as a pro like all the other guys he sees advertising, and doesn't believe he could ever provide the same level of service as they. He is so wrong, and he's not the only provider I've met who thinks that way. To experience these guys, you have to take an occasional chance on the newbies, and the unreviewed crowd. High risk, yes, but high reward also.

 

Yes, but he's happy charging that and if it makes him happy then it's all good. I can see how that warrants a tip.

[jjkrkwood]

Yes, but he's happy charging that and if it makes him happy then it's all good. I can see how that warrants a tip.

 

I have always believed that a Tip is more about the person GIVING the tip than about the person receiving it. Its about creating a certain perception of yourself, and there is nothing wrong with it if your are inspired to tip and it makes you feel good. But in the case of escorts, if the tip has other motives for you other than you feeling you received good head or a good fuck, than its probably best NOT to tip....:o

[SteveEscort]

Last year I was out for a pizza at our high end "Pizza Express" chain with 2 friends from London. The service was appalling, she poured red wine in the glass when we ordered white, the starters were quick but the main course took forever. At the end of the evening we left the actual amount that was printed on the bill, right down to the penny and left. I had forgot my scarf and as I walked back in our waitress had her back to us and said to the other "and no bloody tip" so in front of about 50 diners I patted her on the back and said "I'll give you a tip, get the order correct, don't have 45 minutes between courses and smile once in a while". I then turned around and left.

 

I went back a month later and they served me bang on time and everything was spot on.

[BostonPhil]

I get what Jawja is saying, and it does happen. Regarding the original question: tipping is unnecessary and I don't expect it. I certainly don't walk away from an appointment with the attitude: "well, he didn't even tip me!" I walk away from an appointment thinking either "well, that was fun [and I made $___]" or "that didn't go like I wanted it to. What happened?"

 

I would handle tipping like this: keep the original fee in one place and the possible tip amount in another, nearby place.

"Hey, this is for you—and thank you! I put something extra in there for you—you deserve it."

 

Never tip an escort who doesn't deserve it. You should be a discriminating client, not a pushover.

 

Done.

 

Never pay in advance. Even if you are just setting out some where, you run the risk of the escort thinking "hey I already made my fee..." and their performance could lack. I also never expect a tip, but it is a nice surprise and yes JJ it is appreciated.

[leeper]

I usually set the agreed upon fee out somewhere in the room, but partially covered, by something, like a lamp. I then have a small stash set aside very nearby but completely hidden that I can incorporate easily if I feel I want to be generous. I don't really think of it as a tip, just an enhancer if I feel I have gotten more value from the interaction than the fee would indicate. I usually don't add the extra in, but do so for someone I feel has been exceptional.

[jjkrkwood]

Never pay in advance. Even if you are just setting out some where, you run the risk of the escort thinking "hey I already made my fee..." and their performance could lack. I also never expect a tip, but it is a nice surprise and yes JJ it is appreciated.

 

BostonP - I would ALWAYS tip YOU

[jjkrkwood]

I usually set the agreed upon fee out somewhere in the room, but partially covered, by something, like a lamp. I then have a small stash set aside very nearby but completely hidden that I can incorporate easily if I feel I want to be generous. I don't really think of it as a tip, just an enhancer if I feel I have gotten more value from the interaction than the fee would indicate. I usually don't add the extra in, but do so for someone I feel has been exceptional.

 

I am trying to understand what "exceptional" means. Does it mean he left you so weak you couldnt get off the bed? Does it mean he served you cheez whiz on ritz crakers? What makes a call EXCEPTIONAL and tip worthy ????

[SteveEscort]

I am trying to understand what "exceptional" means. Does it mean he left you so weak you couldnt get off the bed? Does it mean he served you cheez whiz on ritz crakers? What makes a call EXCEPTIONAL and tip worthy ????

 

One thing clients always comment about when they book me incall is how nice my place is, how lovely my incall apartment is and how their BMW convertibles don't look out of place in my street, I have had tips just on the exceptional area I offer incalls from. Their first impressions, as a first time client, are wow when they drive into my location. That makes for a good percentage of the appointment marks. I've heard all sorts of stories about how other escorts work from downmarket areas, their place is littered with crap everywhere, whereas I have porn playing on the plasma, a rain shower, wet room, superking bed and french doors looking onto a private courtyard garden. I have fresh lime infused iced water that I make on a morning in a jug by the side and a beer or wine if they prefer from the fridge. There is a chair out, ready for their suits to be neatly folded upon and soft ambient chill out music playing from the ipod. I even have a selection of male scents for them to put on after they've showered. This is part of what I would hope was exceptional.

 

I also try and give each client what they want, if it doesn't involve bareback, s&m or me being expected to piss on them then they can have whatever they want.

[BostonPhil]

BostonP - I would ALWAYS tip YOU

 

I'm never gonna complain about some tip.

[jjkrkwood]

One thing clients always comment about when they book me incall is how nice my place is, how lovely my incall apartment is and how their BMW convertibles don't look out of place in my street, I have had tips just on the exceptional area I offer incalls from. Their first impressions, as a first time client, are wow when they drive into my location. That makes for a good percentage of the appointment marks. I've heard all sorts of stories about how other escorts work from downmarket areas, their place is littered with crap everywhere, whereas I have porn playing on the plasma, a rain shower, wet room, superking bed and french doors looking onto a private courtyard garden. I have fresh lime infused iced water that I make on a morning in a jug by the side and a beer or wine if they prefer from the fridge. There is a chair out, ready for their suits to be neatly folded upon and soft ambient chill out music playing from the ipod. I even have a selection of male scents for them to put on after they've showered. This is part of what I would hope was exceptional.

 

I also try and give each client what they want, if it doesn't involve bareback, s&m or me being expected to piss on them then they can have whatever they want.

 

All clients have different needs, and expectations of the session. When I hire, as I've said before its strictly for the sexual element. I really dont care about ambiance. But for those clients that do, escorts like yourself that go above and beyond to provide a visual and sensual experience with various amenities is certainly entitled to and worthy of additional financial appreciation. I am sure the lenghts you go to for your clients is NOT typical. I would be curious to know how many clients seek the ambiance of the call ?

[JT Brooklyn]

Hi guys. No, this is not the typical tipping question. I understand it is best to leave the agreed payment out either in an envelope or just sitting on a table and not hand it directly to the escort (correct me if I'm wrong on that). My question is, how do you handle the tip if everything goes well? I had an unfortunate experience with a fairly well-reviewed escort. Since he was well-reviewed, I included a generous tip in the envelope I had already set out. The experience was less than satisfactory (it was over in about 35 minutes) but I was too embarrassed to dig through the cash to remove the tip or say anything (it was only my second escort experience). Needless to say, I won't make that mistake again. So, what is the best way to tip at the end? Just hand it over directly or add it to the payment on the table or in the envelope? Sorry if this sounds like a silly question.

 

Rates have jumped very easily from $200 to $250 to $300 in the past few years for 1 Hour...

 

My thinking has always been and will be IF you enjoyed yourself That much just become a "Semi-Regular"..That's the Tip the guys really have to appreciate!

[raife]

Never pay in advance. Even if you are just setting out some where, you run the risk of the escort thinking "hey I already made my fee..." and their performance could lack. I also never expect a tip, but it is a nice surprise and yes JJ it is appreciated.

 

Thank you BPhil - the voice of reason! I never ever pay in advance. To be sure we're on the same page, I will usually discreetly mention it in our initial communications.

 

I also tip if I feel I'm being undercharged for an awesome session, which, luckily has happened quite often. Awesome being defined as I left feeling all tingly with my head in the clouds.

 

Both a tip and [hopefully] become a semi-regular if the chemistry is there.

 

jj - ambience is great in an incall pad, noise isolation is even better - worth paying something for - def not $300/hr though!