Announcing a final resignation from message forum...(not daddys reviews)

[MrBigTL]

I have always believed if you are gonna LEAVE, just leave. I am not sure why Joey needed to write us a farewell letter, or explain his departure? People that do that are simply looking for a reaciton,(sic.)

 

All I can say to that is AMEN!!! I have never understood why someone has to announce to a forum that they are going to pick up their toys and go home and not play anymore. If you leave, you leave.

[Lohengrin1979]

I have always believed if you are gonna LEAVE, just leave. I am not sure why Joey needed to write us a farewell letter, or explain his departure? People that do that are simply looking for a reaciton,(sic.)

 

All I can say to that is AMEN!!! I have never understood why someone has to announce to a forum that they are going to pick up their toys and go home and not play anymore. If you leave, you leave.

 

Exactly the phrase I was going to use. People come and go without explanation. None of us really owe each other explanations for our actions as it is a public forum and we are free to express ourselves within Daddy's terms of usage. The final sweep of the cape and quick strides offstage are unnecessary and say far more about the poster than the board.

[Lohengrin1979]

I have always believed if you are gonna LEAVE, just leave. I am not sure why Joey needed to write us a farewell letter, or explain his departure? People that do that are simply looking for a reaciton,(sic.)

 

All I can say to that is AMEN!!! I have never understood why someone has to announce to a forum that they are going to pick up their toys and go home and not play anymore. If you leave, you leave.

 

Exactly the phrase I was going to use. People come and go without explanation. None of us really owe each other explanations for our actions as it is a public forum and we are free to express ourselves within Daddy's terms of usage. The final sweep of the cape and quick strides offstage are unnecessary and say far more about the poster than the board.

[+ Shoreboy]

I enjoy reading this forum and do it on a daily basis.

 

For me it is entertaining and educational and at times heart-tugging.

 

I have never met anyone on this forum but I have taken the advice of some in regards to who to hire and who to avoid.

 

I too took great offense at Joey's remark about "old men" but if that is his opinion it is exactly that...his opinion and my reaction is my reaction....no right or wrong here.

 

However, I have to admit that whenever I saw a post from Joey I knew without reading it that there was going to be some whining and or complaining.

 

I have chosen not to shop in certain stores, but never sent them a farewell letter.

 

I have stopped eating a certain restaurants but again never sent them a farewell letter.

 

If I ever stop sending my infrequent entries on this forum and decide to leave....oh well you get the picture

[jgoo]

I am curious as to why anyone would announce their departure from this forum. It seems odd (unless they are terminally ill).

 

If you are done, just go as so many folks have done and good luck to you.

 

I guess there is some weak "perceived" value in getting in the last word, but overall I think that those who have to "announce" their departure are just hoping for some form of attention.

Whether it be "please say it ain't true" or "don't let the door hit you in the ass", I think those who need this attention will most often return in one form or another.

 

I wonder how long it will be before the "Mocha" incarnation returns?

 

I have always believed if you are gonna LEAVE, just leave. I am not sure why Joey needed to write us a farewell letter, or explain his departure? People that do that are simply looking for a reaciton,(sic.)

 

All I can say to that is AMEN!!! I have never understood why someone has to announce to a forum that they are going to pick up their toys and go home and not play anymore. If you leave, you leave.

 

I have chosen not to shop in certain stores, but never sent them a farewell letter.

 

I have stopped eating a certain restaurants but again never sent them a farewell letter.

 

If I ever stop sending my infrequent entries on this forum and decide to leave....oh well you get the picture

 

The following is not specific to the situation with Joey but attempts to speculate on some of the possible reasons for a departing member to write a farewell post (which one would depend on what they write or how they write it):

 

1. The desire to get the last word in and the final opportunity for center stage as others have stated.

2. Their own need for closure on their part. The final post serves as a way for them to close the front door, lock it and walk away without anything left unsaid that they wanted to say. No one else may get the value of it but they may.

3. For some it may be putting the stake in the ground by publicly announcing they are leaving so they are less likely to have temptation to return. Some people need to do that as a way for themselves to keep away. Clearly there are examples where this is not the case but for others it may be a valid reason.

4. A way to provoke in some people to think about the consequences of posts that are made. This will probably not happen in most that it is intended for but the poster may feel a need to express that to others.

5. To inform anyone who may actually care or be interested in the individual that they are going and to eliminate concerns about them by those other members that may come up when they notice he is missing in action. This relates to health issues or other personal matters that may have come up for them.

 

I personally have no issue if someone wants to make a parting post for any of the above reasons. It is their choice to post or not their farewell message and I am fine with it (even if I don't appreciate what they write). I tend to believe that when my time to leave the forum comes I will do so quietly. I for one will go gentle into that good night.

[KMEM]

I enjoy reading this forum and do it on a daily basis.

 

For me it is entertaining and educational and at times heart-tugging.

 

I have never met anyone on this forum but I have taken the advice of some in regards to who to hire and who to avoid.

 

I too took great offense at Joey's remark about "old men" but if that is his opinion it is exactly that...his opinion and my reaction is my reaction....no right or wrong here.

 

However, I have to admit that whenever I saw a post from Joey I knew without reading it that there was going to be some whining and or complaining.

 

I have chosen not to shop in certain stores, but never sent them a farewell letter.

 

I have stopped eating a certain restaurants but again never sent them a farewell letter.

 

If I ever stop sending my infrequent entries on this forum and decide to leave....oh well you get the picture

 

I am not sure your comments about stores and restaurants are exactly apropos to this situation. My attitude and "procedure" regarding a store or retaurant is to inform them, usually management, about any insufficiencies so that they may know of them and correct them. After that, if there is no improvement, they will have to do without me as a customer henceforth.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Michael Wayne]

And I decided to STAY becasue it is GOOD for business and it is the only real place I have to be HONEST about the biz and all it entails and involves. Friends don't know or don't understand. U don't go there with family. I reach clients here who otherwise would not hire me. I think the forum humanizes us and makes us touchable. I also helps me understand things from the clients' perspective. It also keeps me humble when I realize that I am NOT everyones' type. JJ will NEVER hire me but I LEARN from his posts and I understand where he is coming from so I decided to stay. Joey-stay in touch! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1 "I am not about the clock, I am all about the COCK!"

[jjkrkwood]

And I decided to STAY becasue it is GOOD for business and it is the only real place I have to be HONEST about the biz and all it entails and involves. Friends don't know or don't understand. U don't go there with family. I reach clients here who otherwise would not hire me. I think the forum humanizes us and makes us touchable. I also helps me understand things from the clients' perspective. It also keeps me humble when I realize that I am NOT everyones' type. JJ will NEVER hire me but I LEARN from his posts and I understand where he is coming from so I decided to stay. Joey-stay in touch! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1 "I am not about the clock, I am all about the COCK!"

 

Mikey, WE may have had out issues, but I recognize humility and DO believe and hope that you DID learn something. I am basically a chill, laid-back guy, BUT like any mere mortal, there are things that get my dander up. Those things I did express to you, and while I now recognize and accept the fact that self promotion is part of your personality, I am OK with it. You are a businessman and I can respect that. However, in Joeys case it became a whole new ballgame when he "bit the hands that feed him". If he is also a businessman, that post, in whatever "disguise" it was intended was a poor business decision.

[Epigonos]

Ok guys I have essentially stayed out of this discussion because I failed to see and read Joey comments which have raised so much ire. Could someone please direct me to them by providing me with a link or quoting them on this thread. Thanks.

[bigvalboy]

Ok guys I have essentially stayed out of this discussion because I failed to see and read Joey comments which have raised so much ire. Could someone please direct me to them by providing me with a link or quoting them on this thread. Thanks.

 

Hey Epigonos, It was a thread started by Joey 2 days ago that read "Why after a relationship ends, the dating life that proceeds it is hell" I have steered clear as well, Joey was very unhappy with my comment, though I thought I had a valid point, so as not to stir the pot, I have remained silent on his departing...

[+ Travis69]

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?85242-Why-after-a-relationship-ends-the-dating-life-that-proceeds-it-is-hell This is the original thread.

[jjkrkwood]

I am not exactly sure why members would "steer clear" after reading a disturbing post to avoid stirring the pot?

 

Dont you think your feelings count or your contributions are valid ? Perhaps your thoughts may also enlighten or educate ?

 

At the very least, you can get something off your chest.

 

Just another example of people wanting to be "Switzerland" and viewed as the good guys. F*ck That. !

[josephga]

A friend tells you what you need too hear not what you want too hear

[jjkrkwood]

A friend tells you what you need too hear not what you want too hear

 

And thats usually when people DUMP their friends. Its the smart ones that actually LISTEN.

[bigvalboy]

A friend tells you what you need too hear not what you want too hear

 

LOL LOL except that Josephga, we are a lot of things...but friends?

[josephga]

LOL LOL except that Josephga, we are a lot of things...but friends?

 

in most cases no. But could apply to some

[bigvalboy]

in most cases no. But could apply to some

 

I can live with that...Have a good day sir, BVB

[Decatur Guy]

There's a sad sort of clanging

From the clock in the hall

And the bells in the steeple, too

And up in the forum

An absurd little bird

Is popping out to say coo-coo

(Coo-coo, coo-coo)

 

So bitterly he tells us

But firmly he compels us

to say goodbye

(coo-coo)

To yoooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu!

[jjkrkwood]

There's a sad sort of clanging

From the clock in the hall

And the bells in the steeple, too

And up in the forum

An absurd little bird

Is popping out to say coo-coo

(Coo-coo, coo-coo)

 

So bitterly he tells us

But firmly he compels us

to say goodbye

(coo-coo)

To yoooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu!

 

LOL DG, but I have always preferred a COCK-a-doodle-do to a Cuckoo (or coo-coo)....

[MiamiLooker]

RE: Announcing a final resignation from message forum...(not daddys reviews)

 

What's the difference between a resignation and a final resignation?

[jjkrkwood]

RE: Announcing a final resignation from message forum...(not daddys reviews)

 

What's the difference between a resignation and a final resignation?

 

The same difference as being Done or Done/done.....

[Epigonos]

Ok now that I have finished reading in their entirety Joey’s thread on dating and this one I guess I am prepared to make a few comments. Before I do so, however, I would like to state the following caveat – I am only speaking for myself and I am NOT generalizing unless I make it clear that I am doing so

 

1. Much Ado about Nothing/Tempest in a Teapot – Joey’s original thread deals with dating. At my age (71) I am just about the last person in the world that Joey would ever be dating thus I find it extremely difficult to be offended by his comments. Now if I were in my mid to late thirties or forties and hoped to date him that might be different. However, even then I probably would not be offended because I have to believe (generalization) that the posters, in that age groups, are on this site because they are interested in the ramifications of HIRING escorts not DATING them. I have known one poster here who confused the difference between hiring and dating escorts and he ended up miserable.

 

2. Dating and Escort Etiquette – These two things are totally different. In a dating situation it behooves both parties to establish early in the relationship who pays for what. I have always felt that in the early stages of dating going Dutch works best unless it is a special occasion. In an escort situation the client pays for everything PERIOD. Now a number of years ago on my first meeting with Benjamin Nicholas he snagged the check and paid for our dinner while I was in the restroom. I was dumbfounded. He absolutely refused to allow me reimburse him: classy gesture but certainly unexpected and unnecessary.

 

3. Edgy People/Escorts Some people love guys/escorts with edgy personalities others hate them. Having a rather edgy personality myself I am definitely in the first group. In the past there have been a number of escorts on this site who absolutely infuriated large numbers of posters. Scott Adler comes immediately to mind. I frequently thought he enjoyed making comments that rattled people’s cages just to see their reaction. I loved sharing a meal with him. He could be provocative and infuriating but damn he was NEVER dull. Now you might ask knowing all I do about Joey if I would hire him and the answer is probably yes. I would do so if for no other reason than try to determine what makes him tick.

 

At times I think that after teaching high school for thirty-six year I developed the skin of a rhinoceros. On a site like this there is very little that posters write that can sent me into a rage; it just isn’t worth the effort.

[jjkrkwood]

Ok now that I have finished reading in their entirety Joey’s thread on dating and this one I guess I am prepared to make a few comments. Before I do so, however, I would like to state the following caveat – I am only speaking for myself and I am NOT generalizing unless I make it clear that I am doing so

 

1. Much Ado about Nothing/Tempest in a Teapot – Joey’s original thread deals with dating. At my age (71) I am just about the last person in the world that Joey would ever be dating thus I find it extremely difficult to be offended by his comments. Now if I were in my mid to late thirties or forties and hoped to date him that might be different. However, even then I probably would not be offended because I have to believe (generalization) that the posters, in that age groups, are on this site because they are interested in the ramifications of HIRING escorts not DATING them. I have known one poster here who confused the difference between hiring and dating escorts and he ended up miserable.

 

2. Dating and Escort Etiquette – These two things are totally different. In a dating situation it behooves both parties to establish early in the relationship who pays for what. I have always felt that in the early stages of dating going Dutch works best unless it is a special occasion. In an escort situation the client pays for everything PERIOD. Now a number of years ago on my first meeting with Benjamin Nicholas he snagged the check and paid for our dinner while I was in the restroom. I was dumbfounded. He absolutely refused to allow me reimburse him: classy gesture but certainly unexpected and unnecessary.

 

3. Edgy People/Escorts Some people love guys/escorts with edgy personalities others hate them. Having a rather edgy personality myself I am definitely in the first group. In the past there have been a number of escorts on this site who absolutely infuriated large numbers of posters. Scott Adler comes immediately to mind. I frequently thought he enjoyed making comments that rattled people’s cages just to see their reaction. I loved sharing a meal with him. He could be provocative and infuriating but damn he was NEVER dull. Now you might ask knowing all I do about Joey if I would hire him and the answer is probably yes. I would do so if for no other reason than try to determine what makes him tick.

 

At times I think that after teaching high school for thirty-six year I developed the skin of a rhinoceros. On a site like this there is very little that posters write that can sent me into a rage; it just isn’t worth the effort.

 

Epig, thank you for your contribution on Joey-gate. Its always good to get another perspective. And because you are one of the members here that I respect, I am taking a DEEP BREATH .....instead of responding further.

[leigh.bess.toad]

A friend tells you what you need too hear not what you want too hear

 

And thats usually when people DUMP their friends. Its the smart ones that actually LISTEN.

 

Both very true observations. I had a friend tell me something that was VERY painful and hurtful to hear many months ago. But I knew he did it because he cared about me and wanted to help. After a tough 36 hour pity party for myself, I suddenly realized he was right and made some big changes in my life. It led me to where I am now -- happier than ever with a great partner in life. Without those changes, I doubt I would have been able to nurture the love I have now with my partner. So although what I heard was harsh, it was absolutely necessary for me.

 

Hearing the bad things about yourself isn't easy. It's tough. But if it's from someone you care about and you know cares about you, it is wise to listen.

[+ kontor1]

I've met some great people from here over the months I've spent here (Micheal V, Mikey, Kevin S, Mark Gordon, NateSF to name a few) but I just feel I need to move on. I'm not doing it for attention, or to get a rise. I'm doing it for me.

 

My main thing is that obviously there is a wide age disparity among myself and other members here. Most members are at different stages in life, have different things in mind than I do. So because of that, we're not going to see eye to eye on a lot of subjects. It's not about what's right or what's wrong, it's what will work for me and what I'm comfortable with and likewise for you.

 

In addition, I'm at a point in my life where I won't say I'm in a 'crisis'...but there's been so many changes, and so many things I want to change and am working to improve. It's hard to discuss these things on other forums because as an escort, people like to use that as a reason for every problem a person will ever encounter. However, why come here and discuss these things if every time I bring up a topic, someone's going to make it out as if I'm the problem or the issue and made to feel as a person who doesn't even know what I want?

 

And I remember, most of the things I mention can easily be searched out on google. Someone somewhere has said or experienced the same thing. But my downfall is I'm the type of person that when things are going awry, I come here and talk about it..and then leave off feeling even worse about the matter.

 

With that said, this is no longer my place anymore. When I sit down and think about what I'm getting from it, the benefits don't outweigh the disadvantages. I'm not getting paid for my opinion, nor am I asking to. It's not helping to change my current status. Obviously since I tend to mention controversial things at times, I don't think I entice clients to hire me more than my blog or ads. And everytime I say something that doesn't digest well with someone, I get the whole "I wouldn't want to hire you with that attitude!" As if you ever had any intentions of doing so to begin with. So why am I here?

 

I'm sure some of the things said has been good advice, but it hasn't been given to me in a way I can receive it. It comes off abrasive and I leave feeling more offended than enlightened. It's kind of hard to receive things thru this medium anyway. Something that may not be offensive in person, may come off that way here.

 

Before anyone says it, no I'm not going to create some kind of alias and post under that. I'm done. I'm moving on. Being here is not making me a better person in any way.

 

WoW Joey... Very true writing... well written! I also get these people every now and then but you should just ignore the weirdos and welcome others who have positive attitude about your writings. There will always be mean or negative people on and off the forum and you just have to ignore them and focus on people who you think are worth the attention. Whatever you decide eventually I wish you the very best... I never really had one-on-one time with you on or off this forum, but from your writings I can feel that you are a good guy! I wish you all the best as an escort as well as in your personal life and I wish you all the happiness you deserve !