PNP?? What's your opinion on hiring PNP Escorts?

[EZEtoGRU]

You're a sad sad case Jerkwood.....and very uninformed. Stay in your fantasy world since the real world clearly has not worked well for you.

[Lookin]

. . . don't feel that you have to share everything that passes through your mind.

Now he says something. I could have stopped 1600 posts ago. http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

[jjkrkwood]

You're a sad sad case Jerkwood.....and very uninformed. Stay in your fantasy world since the real world clearly has not worked well for you.

 

Look again A*hole, you are the sad pathetic case, living in YOUR own "little" fantasy world of PAID masculine "str8" men. ROFL. Step outside and wipe the cobwells from your AGED brow....

Read my posts again loser and youll see I have NO fantasies or delusions. Thats YOU.

Plus all of your cowardly comments should be made to me in PRIVATE. not in a public forum, but you blocked me so I have to say what I need to say to you HERE. Sorry to all the other members, EZE's cowardly behavior has made you have to endure THIS.

[EZEtoGRU]

Honey, I never block anyone. As I said....you are sad sad sad. How many burgers did you flip at work today?

[jjkrkwood]

Honey, I never block anyone. As I said....you are sad sad sad. How many burgers did you flip at work today?

 

Yeah right, now we can add LIAR to your list of offenses.... Ill send you my business card and then you can eat your words, instead of some "masculine str8 guys cock". LMFAO

 

EZE, you are garbage, and I dont have time for you, eventhough you are an "amusement". You are neither relevant nor interesting. In YOUR case, I see the reason you NEED to pay for sex. You are intolerable in Print, probably more so in Life. Youll seem much more intelligent if you keep you mouth closed, because nothing too diverse ever comes out of it.

And men using the word Honey, well that speaks for itself. Blah, blah, blah.........

[Lookin]

http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2011/07/wimpy_hamburgers_popeye.jpg

 

Did someone say burgers?

[EZEtoGRU]

Babycakes,

Remember. Next time you are putting an order together for me, I would like it supersized....and please don't overcook the burger.

 

BTW, you're being talked about as we speak on another thread.

 

Adios bobo.

[bigvalboy]

Nice try Lookin, but I don't think anything is going to stop this train wreck. Philmusc, paging Philmusc...think we need that calm voice of reason again.

[jjkrkwood]

Nice try Lookin, but I don't think anything is going to stop this train wreck. Philmusc, paging Philmusc...think we need that calm voice of reason again.

 

Oh come on now BVB. dont tell me you dont Love it ?

[bigvalboy]

Hey... slow down big guy, I'm a man and I use the word honey all the time. What about girlfriend? Can I say that jj.

[jjkrkwood]

hey... Slow down big guy, i'm a man and i use the word honey all the time. What about girlfriend? Can i say that jj.

 

you go gurl !!!!!!!!!

[Michael Wayne]

I have NEVER used drugs and I immediately cancel an appointment if a client whips out drugs. total turn off 4 me! Also, what is the big deal about barebacking anyway? I love my magnum XLs. They fit, they help me to last longer and when I have it on I am confident that the sex is safe so there is no worry. From a top's perspective the rubber does not take away from my experience. I am not a bottom so I cannot speak of how it affects the bottom. http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[josephga]

I don't think a bottom would not notice a difference it's just in their head. Company's like treasure island video try to make bareback sex look and appear cool. This is a company that's banned from a number of event including Folsom Street Fair, and International Mr. Leather in Chicago. others have refused to accept awards at shows if this company had any involvement. this company's ran by an individual that was kicked out of the military as well as a film & art school.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

Company's like treasure island video try to make bareback sex look and appear cool. This is a company that's banned from a number of event including Folsom Street Fair, and International Mr. Leather in Chicago. others have refused to accept awards at shows if this company had any involvement. this company's ran by an individual that was kicked out of the military as well as a film & art school.

 

But it doesn’t stop there Joseph. Paul Morris, owner of Treasure Island Media (TIM) has personally declared the AIDS crisis now over and blames those currently in the “HIV closet”; those being the ones who survived the suffering and death of the 80’s and 90’s - for the destruction of free and natural sex today. Some have called him the “shepherd of slaughter” and a “murderer” for his fetishization of not only “bareback” sex, but also for his laissez faire approach to HIV.

 

Paul Morris’ porn sets are like a petri-dish where disease is spread from one to another in the celebration of ignorant, reckless, irresponsible and what should be, in my opinion, illegal commercial behavior. The term “bug-chasers” come to mind when I think of the models who work for Paul Morris.

 

Paul Morris wants you to believe that he is liberating a new generation of gay youth from the stigma and baggage that AIDS has always represented. What Paul Morris is really doing is destroying a new generation of gay-youth from the life-altering facts known as HIV/AIDS.

[Phil_musc]

It's time to close this thread. The OP, Mansniffing, asked about PNP and escorts who may advertise about using it. The first question was accurately answered by Kevin as to what constitutes PnP. Several posters have rightly voiced their opinions about hiring escorts who include this as a part of their ads. From Kevin's response we rapidly moved into equating PnP usage with bareback sex and the next thing we knew, the PnP issue kinda got sidetracked, and immediately some free-thinkers lumped all PnP users in with the HIV+ crowd. While there may well be overlapping here, these are separate points entirely. I lived through the pot explosion in the latter quarter of the 20th century. All the nay-sayers to pot legalization were saying it was an entry drug into harder stuff and as such should never be legalized and smoked. Yet I know myriads of people who regularly smoked or smoke pot and have never moved on to hard drugs. The fact that someone may indulge in PnP does not necessarily mean that he/she is going to be engaging in bareback sex. Somehow some people here seem to think that PnP use guarantees the user will be HIV+ by next week (at the latest). While I am by no means advocating the use of PnP or bareback sex, I still can separate the issues and recognize them for the different points that they are. I am reminded of a quote I once heard where this slippery logic was championed: A girl who will chew gum will smoke, a girl who will smoke will drink, a girl who will drink - well I think you know what a girl who drinks will do. Leave the catholic school catechism out of this please, and please don't allow the anonymity of the internet to give you license to write and treat each other so disparagingly. One last point, though, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned this: frequently it appears that escorts will just check all the boxes as a part of their ads without paying attention to what it really says (who has time to read the fine print anyway - what with going to the gym, shopping for fabulous clothes, texting other hot guys for freebies, and answering call from those pesky guys who inconveniently want an hour or two of their precious time?) Sloppy advertising but we routinely cut them some slack.

[bigvalboy]

Thank you Phil...once again the voice of reason steps in...glad you heard me paging you yesterday. lol and yes maybe, just maybe this will all be put to rest.

[RockHard]

It's time to close this thread.

 

I'm not a big fan of the "nanny" boards. Go ahead and ban offending posters, especially those who blatantly call other members foul names, but leave the thread alone. PNP sex and bareback sex are important subjects. These discussions, no matter how sensitive, should not be shut down or silenced.

 

it appears that escorts will just check all the boxes as a part of their ads without paying attention to what it really says

 

If an escort doesn't pay attention to boxes that describe the type of sex he likes, then what else is the escort not paying attention to? IMO, these boxes ARE NOT fine print.

[Phil_musc]

I'm not a big fan of the "nanny" boards either, and I agree that PnP sex and bareback sex are important subjects worthy of discussion. But when discussion degenerates into sandbox name-calling and belittling of another poster, that just rubs me the wrong way. I fail to see the need to make another poster look bad or feel bad. A good chunk of the straight majority is already willing to do that for us and enjoys doing just that. In a community such as ours - and by that I mean gay men (Msfluff notwithstanding) who read and write here in a spirit of collegiality such negativity is misplaced. We don't have to like each other, but we should at least be able to respect each other and not try to miss an opportunity to make another poster feel small, stupid or insignificant. I'm no shrink but I fail to understand the obvious need of some of our fellow posters to bully others here. I wonder what kind of man needs to behave in such a way.

[jjkrkwood]

I'm not a big fan of the "nanny" boards either, and I agree that PnP sex and bareback sex are important subjects worthy of discussion. But when discussion degenerates into sandbox name-calling and belittling of another poster, that just rubs me the wrong way. I fail to see the need to make another poster look bad or feel bad. A good chunk of the straight majority is already willing to do that for us and enjoys doing just that. In a community such as ours - and by that I mean gay men (Msfluff notwithstanding) who read and write here in a spirit of collegiality such negativity is misplaced. We don't have to like each other, but we should at least be able to respect each other and not try to miss an opportunity to make another poster feel small, stupid or insignificant. I'm no shrink but I fail to understand the obvious need of some of our fellow posters to bully others here. I wonder what kind of man needs to behave in such a way.

 

Phil, your efforts to keep the peace, although commendable, will ultimately end up being futile... If countries cant get along for reasons often unknown to them, how can you expect a handful of individuals with Vastly diff opinions to do so? I understand your point, its not about the opionions per se, but about respecting the person giving the opinion. Thats not easy to do because its not human nature when you are passionate about something and its being dismissed as NOT important, or not the popular opinion.... Social network and chat websites often have discension, its part of the deal. We all just need to grow thick skin, Grin and Bear it. I am not a good person to talk, because as you know, I cant let things alone, and have to comment, especially when provoked or attacked. And there are also consequences to MY behavior, which I accept.... I admire your Rose colored glasses, but in these here parts, they are covered with Soot.....

[bigvalboy]

Phil, I actually do not agree with what you are saying. I was thinking about responding with a rather long and tedious personal analogy, but I fear, in my current state of frustration at seeing some of the comments that RH has posted here and in another thread, that alot of anger and frustration would spew out. So for now, suffice it to say that I am in disagreement with your analogy. I, for whatever reason, felt a need to say that, but will allow some civility on my part to leave it at that.

[EZEtoGRU]

Anyone who thinks there isn't a correlation between PNP/drug use and HIV is kidding themselves. Clearly not a 1:1 correlation, but a strong linkage nonetheless.

[Phil_musc]

JJ, it's possible that countries might have bigger issues and disagreements that prevent them from getting along. But really - what big issues do you see here on the forum? While it's good to feel passionate about some things, I don't see how that translates as a license to spew forth all the nasty venom that sometimes erupts here.

 

BVB, I don't understand your post. The only analogy I made had to do with slippery thinking and failing to be able to keep separate issues truly separated. Time to go to the gym now. Signing off. . .

[RockHard]

Bully this.

 

But when discussion degenerates into sandbox name-calling and belittling of another poster, that just rubs me the wrong way.

 

Such behavior has never rubbed me the right way but it's not as bad as it used to be. Rather than calling for a thread to be closed, I suggest you hit the "Report Post" button. Hopefully Daddy will notice and disengage the offending poster(s).

 

I'm no shrink but I fail to understand the obvious need of some of our fellow posters to bully others here. I wonder what kind of man needs to behave in such a way.

 

I think a lot of people find bullying empowering, sort of like being a doorman at a popular club. Bullies are a fact of life, and let's not forgot that a lot gay men are self-haters. Some have miserable lives and they blame a lot of things, including their being gay. Respect is a two-way street.

 

The subject of moderation has been discussed here ad nauseam. This board has too few, with a mindset that is, well, limited. To put a stop to bully-speak, you need more pro-active moderation. That ain't gonna happen here so it's best to contact admin and report the sissy cat-fighters.

 

but I fear, in my current state of frustration at seeing some of the comments that RH has posted here and in another thread, that alot of anger and frustration would spew out

 

I'm strong enough to take it, bigvalboy. My skin is soft but quite thick. Feel free to write me privately. Many do. I often respond.

 

I'm sorry if my comments hit a sensitive spot for you. I can understand why, especially if you struggle with weight. But I have no apologies for my positions on the subject and I have very personal reasons for why I have those positions.

 

Time for the gym, too.

[bigvalboy]

Ok, I will rephrase it for you Phil. I don't agree with your comments. There are alot of people that I do not like, and that I do not respect. And if they say something that is vile, hateful and full of prejudice toward another human being, and it is meant to hurt that person, then I will respond, and if by doing so makes that person feel small, stupid or insignificant, then so be it. Phil, there are alot of people in this world that are hateful and just plain stupid, that is not my fault or your fault, it is a fact. And to think that we are all going to communicate with great civility is naive. And I am going to the gym now, and I hope that you comment in regards to that in your last post as you ended, was not laced with any sort of sarcasim.

[Phil_musc]

I'm back and feeling energized but relaxed. Thanks, RH, for clarifying your ideas. When I said it was time to cloxe the thread, I wasn't really being serious. I wouldn't have a discussion shut down - to be honest, I didn't think I could do that. I still believe that most exchanges of ideas are good - kind of an application of the right to free speech in our Constitution. I guess, however, that when something strikes me as silly or mean-spirited (as happens here from time to time) I should just disengage, step back and move on.

 

BVB, I think you are correct when you say that there are a great many people in the world that are hateful and perhaps it is naive on my part to expect better of us in this forum. But I would wager that the average level of education and success of our fellow posters should indicate a more sophisticated and tolerant tone that we frequently see here. There was no sarcasm intended in my last posting toward you or anyone else when I said I was going to the gym. I really did go. I'm at a loss for what you might have perceived as sarcasm there.

 

Anyway, I think I'm going to step back for a bit and just read. I came here originally for information and hopefully I can still get that.